ADHD
Smash Hero
I'm just making an assumption that some pro players will have a difficult time standing above the rest because of the slower gameplay, could this be possible?
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Will pro players be less... pro-like?
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Cazitha_90
Smash Rookie
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To me Slow and Smooth > Fast and Laggy
E.G.G.M.A.N.
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It's possible some of the "semi pros" (or whatever you want to call them) might climb up in the food chain a bit, similar to how Isai was dethroned in the transition from 64 to melee, but for everyone else, I doubt it will make that much of a difference.
Pros will always be pros. What matters isn't the details of the game, it's that they're willing to put the effort into getting really good at the game no matter what it takes and most people aren't. The simple reality is that you won't beat them if you're not willing to match their effort. Brawl is still more than technical enough that the vast majority of players won't understand all its intricacies.
ADHD
Smash Hero
It might be harder for them to stand out considering it has advantages for ok players, like the speed, and reaction time.
Amon Amarth
Smash Journeyman
Mindgames matter most.
Pros will still be pro.
Pros will still be pro.
At this point, being a pro Melee player is like bragging about having the most badass CD player on the block. Everyone starts out on even footing. How far everybody gets, is each individual's choice. Players who weren't advanced before may become advanced by Brawl's new standard.
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
pirkid
Smash Lord
As gameplay grows, new players will emerge from their out-of-place locations. The term 'pro' is used loosely to describe someone who is good at the game and has gone to/won a lot of tourney's gaining popularity and becoming a idol. Now, there are those who can compete online without having to travel long-distances, opening up a lot more possibilities for who's a "pro" and who's not.
shadydentist
Smash Lord
The techniques that made them good at Melee are gone.
The mindset/willingness to learn that got them there are still present.
If you sucked at Melee, don't expect to get good at brawl until you take a good hard look at what was holding you back.
The mindset/willingness to learn that got them there are still present.
If you sucked at Melee, don't expect to get good at brawl until you take a good hard look at what was holding you back.
Crizthakidd
Smash Champion
a pro will still be pro. the thing that changes is just nubs will be better lol.
mindgames from pros> yours
mindgames from pros> yours
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as soon as you learn the new timing of fast falling, auto cancelling and dash landing the game's speed actually speeds up rather quite nicely
M3tr01D
Smash Lord
This isn't true at all. Being good at the other smash games helps for brawl. I've played against players who didn't play the other games and they were definitely not "starting out on even footing."
Bibbed
Smash Journeyman
I'm glad that's your personal preference, but there was no lag in Melee. Almost all lag could be cancelled. Where as in Brawl it runs rampant. So your comparison should be closer to "Slow and Laggy > Fast and Smooth". Not a flame, btw.
Isai was a monster in Melee, he was arguably the second best player for a majority of Melee's lifespan. And he never really lost anything in the later days of Melee. Many people think he just stopped trying as much.
And as usual, Ichida (or whatever his name is) chimes in with his uninformed opinion, but some of my peers have already responded to him, so I will say no more.
6footninja
Smash Ace
Casual players will rise in the "smash chain" a little, but I dont think Pro-like players will suffer. Theres still a lot to learn and get better with.
Riolu
Smash Apprentice
I don't think there will be that much to worry about. I'm sure the Casual players will rise in skill , I know I have, but not enough to be a threat to the pros.
Fine, whatever. I'm done talking about the competitive-political bull****, now that I can just go ****ing play the game. Happy?
ObeseNightmare
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either way, I'm better at brawl then I was at melee, but I'm still pretty bad.
Fireblaster
Smash Lord
So you'll finally go back to playing the game instead of insulting competitive players and pretending to sound like you know what you're talking about?
I doubt it.
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Isai just didn't seem to like Melee as much or care.
bovineblitzkrieg
Smash Journeyman
Being good at melee helps with some stuff... like marth's fairs and nairs... or just general familiarity with movesets.
it definately hinders in other ways too. but a newb vs a melee pro, melee pro wins handily.
it definately hinders in other ways too. but a newb vs a melee pro, melee pro wins handily.
Fletch
Smash Master
I hope you don't honestly believe this. If you do, then wow... go play a Melee pro in Brawl and get destroyed.
Rang Flash
Smash Journeyman
a lot of non-pro players like me can fight fast like them. There will still be a big difference IMO
pyro363
Smash Journeyman
No because most of skills you bring into brawl from melee.
ADHD
Smash Hero
But I mean like, as of now... There is a certain point right now where you will be best, no matter how good you are, its the best you can be. Once you get edgehogging perfectly, all these tactics, its kind of based on luck and different interpretations of the game. I'm scared that unless we find something as similar to wavedashing mind games, here comes squirtle for high tier with that hydroplaning...