Will Brawl end Melee?

[Burning Lava]

People still play Street Fighter 2. People still play Marvel VS Capcom 1. People still play Smash Bros on the N64.

Man, I was going to quote like 5 people, but then I saw this, and this is exactly what I was going to bring up, except...

The thing about these games is that they never really released any totally awesome and new feeling versions of the games, so people just stuck with what they had/have.

What I don't like is people who are already making up their minds to sick with Melee... I mean, it's cool, and I'll still play it, but how can you even want to resist a new Smash sequel, especially when Melee was exactly that! Heck, I don't even care if there are still tournaments for SSB and Melee for the next 10+ years, as long as those people playing the older games (myself included) give Brawl a decent chance at becoming the next great game. No one will suddenly hate, or disrespect Melee... we will all still revere it as the deepest fighter of it's time, but like somebody said already, Brawl could very well be just a grand evolution of Melee. At first it could feel totally different, or weird, but you may after months of practicing realize Sakurai knew what he was doing. I mean, other than a few things like WD, he intentionally created most of the advanced techniques. He may even sneak a couple more in, and maybe a couple more still by accident. Not that I want to discuss this now, but WD is part of the physics system that they are using, (Brawl is using Melee's engine) so Sakurai would really have to NOT WANT people WDing for us not to get it in Brawl. (I'm still skeptical, but don't assume Brawl already sucks for advanced techs.)

Oh, and I don't really like the idea of a major split in the fanbase. We're like a family... we don't need a split. Can't we just like both games, and give SSB Brawl a chance to be the new competitve Smash we've always dreamed of? Maybe, just maybe, we'll get lucky like we did with Melee.

 

[Foxman15]

I think a lot of people who now play melee competitively only do so because of finding out all of the advance techniques. Now that they know how complex the game actually is, they have the motivation to want to be good at brawl right at launch so they don't get behind as in melee. This comes to my conclusion of almost everybody on this website will put melee aside when brawl comes out.

 

[Paranoid_Android]

I'd have to agree, but there's always the possibility that everyone will end up being disappointed with Brawl's potential for competitive play and switch back.

 

[h1roshi]

the fact is, eventually, brawl will just take over. there are going to be too many new players rushing into brawl plus all the melee players. with people trying to learn the new game and adjust to all the new characters, i believe melee will definitely replaced. i do see melee tournaments still happening like 6 months(maybe even more) after brawls is out though...peace

-hiroshi

 

[Burning Lava]

...but there's always the possibility that everyone will end up being disappointed with Brawl's potential for competitive play and switch back.

And then after a good 6 months to a year later, they switch back again because they see all the cool stuff people are learning with Brawl.

 

[Conker1]

Yes, out of all the people I know/knew that played Smash 64 and Melee only one stuck with 64, and that was because he never got a Gamecube.

New characters, stages, items, experiences...to hell with Melee, 6 years is a good run.

 

[Level 9]

I think a lot of people who now play melee competitively only do so because of finding out all of the advance techniques. Now that they know how complex the game actually is, they have the motivation to want to be good at brawl right at launch so they don't get behind as in melee. This comes to my conclusion of almost everybody on this website will put melee aside when brawl comes out.

Exactly... And to further it still, that will motivate most of the major tournament seine to stop hosting Melee events... Leaving Melee in the same boat SSB is in...

This is in no way a bad thing & obviously we will all pick the first two games up from time to time for a bit of nostalgic reminiscing... Heck we might have a tournament held for them every once in a while...

But just like with Melee... Those that still play the old games as the larger part of there gaming days will be dwarfed by the amount that are playing the new...

 

[-Wolfy-]

I think that at first, people will not be satisfied with Brawl. I'm not being pssimistic, It's jsut like with Melee when it first came out. Alot of people didn't like it right off the bat, and clung to their SSB copies for N64. But it grew on us. Advanced techniques were discovered and it became more a part of us. The reason Melee is such a loved game, is that it is so very dynamic. There is a constant stream of new combos and techniques, and the tier list changes, and this shows that the game is played differently.

Therefore, I believe that if Brawl can be that dynamic, it has the potential to shelf our copies of melee, but there are always isolated resurgences of games we loved. Heck, I played through all the N64 games I own a few months ago. While it will be a sad thing to see melee go, we must look back lovingly on the 5 or so great years we've had.

 

[Toasty!]

I will stop playing Melee. Except for on a few occasions.

However, I think Wi-Fi will alter people's Melee playing. Let's hope there is Wi-Fi!

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Nothing short of the apocalypse will end melee.

 

[Burning Lava]

I think that at first, people will not be satisfied with Brawl. I'm not being pssimistic, It's jsut like with Melee when it first came out. Alot of people didn't like it right off the bat, and clung to their SSB copies for N64. But it grew on us. Advanced techniques were discovered and it became more a part of us.

Exactly. You know, I almost forgot about that, but you're right. When I first started I was a little weirded out at the speed increase for one thing, and also character changes. Link's dash A was no longer a stab, but a slash! Talk about crazy! But seriously, it took a little while for a lot of people to adjust, and it will be the same for Brawl.

I would say one of the reasons Melee is so loved, is something less than tangible. I would say that part of it at least is just that it's been with us for sooo long that we've gotten almost too complacent with it... as if we didn't expect there to be a sequel. Smash64 was only out what, 2 years before Melee? I guess the point I was going to make is this; Don't love a game just because you're used to playing it, love it because it's made well. Sure Melee is and always will be made well, but if Brawl is made well too, just allow yourself to try out and attach yourself to something new. Let Melee go. (Unless of course your heart is big enough for both games, ((64 too I guess)) which should be the case for any true fan of the series known as "Super Smash Brothers.")

So yeah, when I say "Let Melee go." That is only for the potential Brawl haters. People who will love Brawl, will undoubtedly still love Melee. You're not betraying Melee by jumping into Sakurai's latest expression of his child. They are all essentially THE SAME GAME.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

I'll fight to the death for melee. With swords.

 

[Legolastom]

Why would you?
I mean its great and all but Brawl can only be an improvement on it.

(But i understand if they take certain things out which... we have become accustomed to)

 

[LordRalph_87]

I think a few will still play melee. And I'm sure I'll take it out occasionally just to laugh at that funny Game and Watch character they put in. But I have to say if Brawl is halfway decent, which wouldn't be too difficult when melee was (in my opinion) the best Gamecube game, and has its online capabilities then I think everyone will drop melee. No longer will we need to drive 5 hours or however long some people do to get to tournaments. Just go round to your mates house and oth of you relax with some beer and batter people to death at online smash. There will still be normal tourneys, just less of them.

 

[-Wolfy-]

I'll fight to the death for melee. With swords.

Gotta love that dedication! I'll fight to the death for the continued playing of melee, and the introduction of Brawl into our gameplay. With the MASTER SWORD.

 

[pikachun00b7]

Did smash64 die out. No. Melee will live. But who wants to play that when SSBB is going to be 10x better?

 

[Moon Monkey]

will Melee end? thats like asking if some created a new kind of drug to smoke "will people still smoke weed over the new drug". there will be someone out thier that will still still smoke stuff maybe be its all they can afford, or maybe they don't like it. To bring this back to smash i would rather smoke Brawl any day, sure people may not be able to afford brawl, and stuck on gamecube or n64 but thier people out there that are willing to share and/ or pass on the good stuff with them

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Why would you?
I mean its great and all but Brawl can only be an improvement on it.

pffft as ive games like SSBM and stacraft broodwar need to be improved on

will Melee end? thats like asking if some created a new kind of drug to smoke "will people still smoke weed over the new drug". there will be someone out thier that will still still smoke stuff maybe be its all they can afford, or maybe they don't like it. To bring this back to smash i would rather smoke Brawl any day, sure people may not be able to afford brawl, and stuck on gamecube or n64 but thier people out there that are willing to share and/ or pass on the good stuff with them

LMFAO BEST ANALOGY EVER! *lights joint*

 

[Hydde]

I think is safe to say that everyone here, well almost, will turn to melee. Is normal.


Myself, im very sure ill turn to brawl.


The new game will be all what melee was and much more. It would be crazy to attach to the past.

Unless Smash´s figthing style is totally revamped and ****ed up in brawl, ill go on with brawl, as 99% of the players on the planet would do.


About a fanbase split...... i dont think it will happen. The new game will overthrow melee.

 

[Legolastom]

pffft as ive games like SSBM and stacraft broodwar need to be improved on



LMFAO BEST ANALOGY EVER! *lights joint*

Yes yes they do need to be improved on...

 

[Binx]

From everything I have seen they are going to leave the physics engine pretty much alone, This is a fan based game and other than the polls they put up in japan where do you think they get most of their fan based opinions? Forums, this one, and ones that originated in japan. Nintendo is a smart company, they know that noobs at the game will still enjoy playing it if they don't know about wavedashing and L canceling. The only reason they would have to not put it back in would be for balance purposes, but honestly I think they will add them and just take them into account when balancing characters this time. Who knows, I am sure in a year or two we will find plenty of glitches for brawl too that will add even more advanced techs.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Yes yes they do need to be improved on...

No, they don't. Starcraft Broodwar is perfect, sc2 looks like complete crap. There isn't one thing about SC:BW that needs improvement its a perfectly balanced RTS with 3 unique races, a game designing feat of biblical proportions because that's practically impossible to do.

Super Smash Melee, name something that needs improvement. One thing that needs to be ''better'' that isn't some john complaint about something that causes you to lose.... like the ''tier list'' that magically decides the outcome of all smash matches even when the people playing are nub and don't even corrospond to the tier list as they are not playing at the highest tournament level.

Go on, tell me. But please don't tell me super smash brothers melee is ''imbalanced'' or any manner of scrub remark.

If you can give me one good reason why melee should be changed, then do so


Little hint : Graphics aren't getting better in video games. They're just changing, with this ****ing ******** mindset that realism is the goal which video games strive for... **** THAT!!!!!

I think video game graphics is in the art and the actual fun of the graphics, Stacrafts original graphics were computer rendered HAND DRAWN sprites, SC2's graphics look bulky and flavourless. Example :

Graphics don't improve. They just change and it is up to the individual game to provide the gamer with an asthetically pleasing gaming enviroment full of details and animations that create a rich blend of substance in the video game itself.

Just because it looks like real life doesn't make the graphics better, just more realistic, more pixels, bigger, more megs, blue ray discs...

OMG THE FUTURE!!! Super Nintendo iz so primitive lolz it sux compared 2 xbox 1260 and Playstation nine.

Bull. ****ing. ****. The SNES is by far the greatest console to ever be released and has several games on it that have never ever been matched in graphical beauty or gameplay perfection like zelda a link to the past and final fantasy 3.

So the rest of you can go play SC2, super smash brawl, and gears of war. Me? Im turning on my emulator and grabbing my controller.

 

[Wrench]

My guess is yes, i dont see too many people out there with gamecubes who still play the original smash over melee (infact, i dont know a single person with a gamecube who doesnt have melee)

 

[Doggalina]

No, they don't. Starcraft Broodwar is perfect, sc2 looks like complete crap. There isn't one thing about SC:BW that needs improvement its a perfectly balanced RTS with 3 unique races, a game designing feat of biblical proportions because that's practically impossible to do.

Super Smash Melee, name something that needs improvement. One thing that needs to be ''better'' that isn't some john complaint about something that causes you to lose.... like the ''tier list'' that magically decides the outcome of all smash matches even when the people playing are nub and don't even corrospond to the tier list as they are not playing at the highest tournament level.

Go on, tell me. But please don't tell me super smash brothers melee is ''imbalanced'' or any manner of scrub remark.

If you can give me one good reason why melee should be changed, then do so

On the topic of SC2:
Why the heck are you judging a game that is far from completion? Did you even watch the trailer and listen to the guy playing? He said it himself; there is a lot of balancing work ahead of Blizzard for SC2.

On to Melee:
You brag about Broodwar's balance, and then you think Melee's perfect. Whoops, scrub remark; I exposed your hypocrisy. Oh, and there's something else wrong with Melee; after 6 years, the game's beginning to stagnate. Brawl will make Smash completely fresh again. New characters, new stages, new moves. New "advanced techniques". I don't see a reason to complain.

 

[ElChibo]

I think the melee tournament scene will slow down to a halt pretty fast. All the big tournaments will feature Brawl as the main event, but I think some will still feature small Melee tournaments similar to Smash 64.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

On the topic of SC2:
Why the heck are you judging a game that is far from completion? Did you even watch the trailer and listen to the guy playing? He said it himself; there is a lot of balancing work ahead of Blizzard for SC2.

Yeah im sure the mothership is gonna be balanced. Also, the game looks like complete crap. Compare the two screens, BW is far superior in graphical quality, its beautiful. SC2 is soulless and reminds me of warcraft 3, the worst rts ever made in the history of time.

On to Melee:
You brag about Broodwar's balance, and then you think Melee's perfect. Whoops, scrub remark; I exposed your hypocrisy

Melee is perfect. Give me a reason as to why it isn't? If you have skill, you can win. There is a tier list because its a fighting game. So long as all the characters in smash are different characters some will be better some will be worse, some will be THE BEST , some will be THE WORST. I think melee balances out because skill is the deciding factor... for example

Fox > Mario

But like... many pro mario users rip apart space animals, azen comes to mind.

Oh, and there's something else wrong with Melee; after 6 years, the game's beginning to stagnate.

So? Its stagnating after spending years and years and years building up a meta game... so now we need a new smash bros because all the theory and whatnot that went into designing how super smash melee is supposed to be played ? If you say so but Im more the kind of person that would rather not mess with a good thing, im still more than happy to play melee whenever I get the chance.

Brawl will make Smash completely fresh again. New characters, new stages, new moves. New "advanced techniques". I don't see a reason to complain.

OR, it'll be completly watered down in favour of selling more copies to the beam sword wielding nub-cakes out there and it will completly ruin smash. And in that scenario one couldnt even get respect playing a good game like melee anymore because all the brawl nubs would consider themselves pro in their crappy ruination of what was a great game.

We dunno till its released, though. Fingers crossed. I trust blizzard way more than I trust nintendo and Im already having my doubts about sc2.

I think the melee tournament scene will slow down to a halt pretty fast. All the big tournaments will feature Brawl as the main event, but I think some will still feature small
Melee tournaments similar to Smash 64.

I think it depends on wavedashing. No wavedashing in brawl, melee tournament players are going to want to stick to a proper smash experience, I for one will not even bother competing in brawl if theres no wavedashing. I'll definatly play it for the trival pursuit of amusing myself and seeing the new moves and all that but I'll never truly play SSB:B without wavedashing involved.

Just a thought though, brawl could be wavedashless and still have a strong tournament community if the other aspects of the game are still just as great as before.

''Better'' is just not something I see possible after melee though, sorry.

 

[Doggalina]

I think it depends on wavedashing. No wavedashing in brawl, melee tournament players are going to want to stick to a proper smash experience, I for one will not even bother competing in brawl if theres no wavedashing. I'll definatly play it for the trival pursuit of amusing myself and seeing the new moves and all that but I'll never truly play SSB:B without wavedashing involved.

Dylan, I'm sorry, but I think you're in the minority among the Smash community. Many pros (pros who are way better than you) would probably happily play Brawl if it lacked wavedashing.

Whenever you post, I get the feeling that you think you're a pro and everybody should listen to what you say because you're just that pro. Every single point you make is an endless cycle of Melee elitism.

 

[Hydde]

Yeah im sure the mothership is gonna be balanced. Also, the game looks like complete crap. Compare the two screens, BW is far superior in graphical quality, its beautiful. SC2 is soulless and reminds me of warcraft 3, the worst rts ever made in the history of time.



Melee is perfect. Give me a reason as to why it isn't? If you have skill, you can win. There is a tier list because its a fighting game. So long as all the characters in smash are different characters some will be better some will be worse, some will be THE BEST , some will be THE WORST. I think melee balances out because skill is the deciding factor... for example

Fox > Mario

But like... many pro mario users rip apart space animals, azen comes to mind.



So? Its stagnating after spending years and years and years building up a meta game... so now we need a new smash bros because all the theory and whatnot that went into designing how super smash melee is supposed to be played ? If you say so but Im more the kind of person that would rather not mess with a good thing, im still more than happy to play melee whenever I get the chance.



OR, it'll be completly watered down in favour of selling more copies to the beam sword wielding nub-cakes out there and it will completly ruin smash. And in that scenario one couldnt even get respect playing a good game like melee anymore because all the brawl nubs would consider themselves pro in their crappy ruination of what was a great game.

We dunno till its released, though. Fingers crossed. I trust blizzard way more than I trust nintendo and Im already having my doubts about sc2.



I think it depends on wavedashing. No wavedashing in brawl, melee tournament players are going to want to stick to a proper smash experience, I for one will not even bother competing in brawl if theres no wavedashing. I'll definatly play it for the trival pursuit of amusing myself and seeing the new moves and all that but I'll never truly play SSB:B without wavedashing involved.

Just a thought though, brawl could be wavedashless and still have a strong tournament community if the other aspects of the game are still just as great as before.

''Better'' is just not something I see possible after melee though, sorry.

mmmm, i agree with you that snes was a great console, in fact i have not enjoyed the modern games like i enjoyed the snes games.

But, some of your statemenents are kinda of biased. I sincerely love the 2d graphics, but, well made 3d graphs offer a lot more options to designers, not only that, they look stetycaly beautiful if made correctly.

Im not a SC player, but i saw the trailers, and what i saw looked pretty well in comparison with the screenies u posted earlier, which look ok... but a lot dated.

Melee is cool, but is umbalanced. You say about skills and so on, which is true. But in melee, the sad thing is that if you take 2 players of equal skil, you give one of them bowser or pichu, and the other sheik or fox.. i can say that the later will win. The fact that some players have limited options against others is a clear umbalance.

My humble advise to you, is togive a chance to the new, and remember happily the good old days, but dont get stuck there pal.

 

[Drascin]

Dylan, I'm sorry, but I think you're in the minority among the Smash community. Many pros (pros who are way better than you) would probably happily play Brawl if it lacked wavedashing.

Whenever you post, I get the feeling that you think you're a pro and everybody should listen to what you say because you're just that pro. Every single point you make is an endless cycle of Melee elitism.

Really, man, don't bother. I've seen this kind of behaviour in the past (hell, I've done it myself more than a few times, especially with SNES titles. I'm also a bit old-school like that ^^). There is nothing that will convince a "hardcore fan". And I mean nothing. We humans are funny like that: we don't like to change opinions .

Now, back to the real topic... yeah, probably Brawl will topple Melee, but it is also very likely that people keep whipping out their old copies of melee from time to time, for nostalgia reasons and such. So it will not "end" Melee, but it is surely going to replace it. And that's good. I'm no pro (in fact I quite suck), but even I realize we're needing some new blood in our Smash already, and I'm certain Brawl will fit the bill quite nicely. New characters, new scenarios, new tactics, and probably even one or two new glitches . So I myself will be shelving my copy of melee when Brawl comes out. With all due reverence to such a great game, but shelving it nonetheless.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

mmmm, i agree with you that snes was a great console, in fact i have not enjoyed the modern games like i enjoyed the snes games.

But, some of your statemenents are kinda of biased. I sincerely love the 2d graphics, but, well made 3d graphs offer a lot more options to designers, not only that, they look stetycaly beautiful if made correctly.

Yeah, indeed. My opinions are infact incredibly bias lol but thats what makes em opinions I just come here to share em, albeit a bit passionatly but im not gonna tell you guys which games to play or not play, im just saying what I personally consider to be the best gaming experience

Im not a SC player, but i saw the trailers, and what i saw looked pretty well in comparison with the screenies u posted earlier, which look ok... but a lot dated.

A lot of people are hyped for SC2 but not me sadly, I just dont like the new graphics I was hoping they wouldnt change T_T

Melee is cool, but is umbalanced. You say about skills and so on, which is true. But in melee, the sad thing is that if you take 2 players of equal skil, you give one of them bowser or pichu, and the other sheik or fox.. i can say that the later will win.

Yes but that will be true in brawl too. Or in any fighting game where the characaters are different. If the only character in smash was mario then it'd be balanced, otherwise there will be a tier list. This isnt melee's fault, and it wont change in brawl. It wont change in soul calibur, it wont change in street fighter, it wont change in tekken, there will ALWAYS be a tier list in fighting games. Always. Tier list does not imply imbalance.

My humble advise to you, is togive a chance to the new, and remember happily the good old days, but dont get stuck there pal.

Im losing faith though.. I highly doubt Ill ever buy a ps3 or an xbox 360. The Wii, however does look like a lot of fun so I have hope there.

But I just see a decline in video gaming (not trying to rip off the popular flash cartoon) since the 1990s...

 

[Hydde]

Yes but that will be true in brawl too. Or in any fighting game where the characaters are different. If the only character in smash was mario then it'd be balanced, otherwise there will be a tier list. This isnt melee's fault, and it wont change in brawl. It wont change in soul calibur, it wont change in street fighter, it wont change in tekken, there will ALWAYS be a tier list in fighting games. Always. Tier list does not imply imbalance.

I understand this, as it is VERY difficult, well it must be, to do a game where all the players have equal chance of winning. Even a friend of mine who isa hardcore SC gamer like you, says that even when is a very balanced game, the alien race (the ones who can develop a lot of units faster than the others) is a bit better because of that fact.

In smash matters, i would be incredibly happy, if the line between a sucky pichu and an allmighty fox gets the thinnest as possible.

Im losing faith though.. I highly doubt Ill ever buy a ps3 or an xbox 360. The Wii, however does look like a lot of fun so I have hope there.

But I just see a decline in video gaming (not trying to rip off the popular flash cartoon) since the 1990s..

Wel, personally ill just buy a wii for brawl and thats it for me.

Like you, i have been thinking about why i loved and enjoyed more the snes era. I couldnt understand when people younger than me(not that im an old carcass, im 23 XD), came praising games like FF 8 nd 10, (which IMO are crap), when games like Lufia 2, FF4,FF6,Tales of phantasia, looked maybe even more compact, graphically talking about, and story wise.

But after all this years, i think the reason why people like you and me, love and remember the snes era like the bestof all, is that we played it in our youth, and we grew with that system, so we enjoyed more it, and discovered how fun gaming was with those games.

Now i see the graphics and the super modern things the new consoles have, (which are way better than the games we played before) but for some reason, is no the same feeling . I dont enjoy as much as i enjoyed before.

I cant stop playing smash, because is simply too good as a VS game,maybe the best evar, but well thats just me.


In summary, i think we are getting old, lol XDDD

 

[thechunkylover]

There's already one like this in melee section some should post topic like this in video game section.

 

[Burning Lava]

We dunno till its released, though. Fingers crossed. I trust blizzard way more than I trust nintendo and Im already having my doubts about sc2.

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I think the melee tournament scene will slow down to a halt pretty fast. All the big tournaments will feature Brawl as the main event, but I think some will still feature small
Melee tournaments similar to Smash 64.

I think it depends on wavedashing. No wavedashing in brawl, melee tournament players are going to want to stick to a proper smash experience, I for one will not even bother competing in brawl if theres no wavedashing. I'll definatly play it for the trival pursuit of amusing myself and seeing the new moves and all that but I'll never truly play SSB:B without wavedashing involved.

Just a thought though, brawl could be wavedashless and still have a strong tournament community if the other aspects of the game are still just as great as before.

''Better'' is just not something I see possible after melee though, sorry.

This part of your post was pretty reasonable, and I'm glad to say I can respect you a lot more now. I was about to go into how Sakurai is not Nintendo, even if he has pressures, he will still make a game true to what he feels is good/right... but I think you already get it. I too will be sorely disappointed without WDing, but like you said, if there is enough depth and a good variety of techs, it could still be very tournament worthy. Also, yes, we don't know til it's released. Well said. So yeah, we can still hope. So far they haven't really shown anything that looks totally gayified. We haven't seen any shffling to see if the game can be played quickly. We've seen what appears to be screenshots of air dodging, but we don't know yet. Teching has been in the first two games. The gameplay looks basically very similar. This is Nintendo's biggest cash cow ever, meaning even if they sell a bazillion copies this time, if people still have a bad taste in their mouths from Brawl, Nintendo knows the franchise might not sell so hot. Just look at Mario Kart. Sure it still sells, but I think DD severely crippled the massive appeal that it once held over gamers. (Even though I kinda don't mind that one.) Nintendo won't want to repeat this... but yeah, just a thought to boost morale, not like I'm trying to make a solid argument.

I have a feeling we'll learn alot more come July.

 

[Shadow Calibur]

The only way we have of knowing if Brawl will be the new standard in competitive Smash is to wait and see for ourselves.

 

[Red Shirt KRT]

Yes, it will

 

[Y34HDUD3!!!]

Well, I don't really think that Brawl will "end" Melee just because it's the sequel.
It all depends on the person, and the quality of Brawl. If Brawl completely outclasses Melee,
which I find extremely hard, it will happen in a not so exagerated way. People will play Melee and Brawl like people play 64 and Melee.

In short, NO.

 

[Level 9]

On a bit of a side note here... (AGAIN)

Can I honestly ask what's the attachment to Wavedashing?... I'm no pro but I'm a far cry from a novice myself... And I've honestly never found it to be all that useful outside of Waveshining & shield garbing techniques...

Providing it's not in Brawl (Which is unlikely), I couldn't possibly see it effecting game play enough for some to turn there backs on the game...

 

[Burning Lava]

I'll let someone else take this one, ^^ but I will say one thing. Wavesmashing. (backward or forward)

Enough to turn their backs on the game? Well, that might be a bit much, and even Dylan Tnga sorta admitted as much.

 

[Keige]

WDing isn't game breaking but if you know how to use it correctly it give you an advantage. Not knowing when to WD will probably get you killed. I can't even count the amount of times I've WDed into a smash. But I don't care if it's gone because I know Brawl will be, at its core, an extension of Melee, so I doubt it will be worse than Melee.

 

[Level 9]

I'll let someone else take this one, ^^ but I will say one thing. Wavesmashing. (backward or forward)

To me wavedashing is to slow to help most of the time & can easily be replaced by down canceling into a smash attack thanks to the C stick..

As I said in my experience it only helps with shield garbing & waveshining... But... I must admit it makes for a nice quick backup wean avoiding an attack... But that's part of my shield work...

Mind you for slower characters like Luigi I can easily see it's need... I main Fox... (And yes I've watched plenty of videos to know how wavedashing is most effectively done)

I just don't play that way myself... Not really any worse... Just different... Though there are quite a few things involving wavedashing that I don't think I could ever pull off even if I wanted too...