Wi-Fi + Marth dittos = Lollerskates (Videos inside)

[VietGeek]

Ike is solid challenged me to a Marth ditto a while back. In my spare time, I had finally organized some time to duel him.

Yet how ignorant I was that this was no ordinary match...

it was Wi-Fi.

VietGeek & Ike is Solid versus Wi-Fi Johns

Match 1
Match 2
Match 3
Match 4

There were more, but I got tired of pressing replay since my Toon Link sucks online, and footage of me playing:

Falco, Fox, Meta Knight, Kirby, Sheik, and Ike was too horrendous for the Internet.

 

[e__]

After watching the first match, I notice that IIS never uses side b to recover

The first time you use it in the air it makes around the same horizontal difference as shieldbreaker, but usually over less time because it comes out and ends faster, and because of it's slight vertical improvement that it has that shieldbreaker doesn't have, unless the shieldbreaker is fully charged it's generally more beneficial. It's never bad to throw in ONE dancing blade in a recovery.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

ya thanks e i've recently been kinda trying to implement that into my gameplay, but haven't quite yet gotten the hang of it.

 

[Steel]

After watching the first match, I notice that IIS never uses side b to recover

The first time you use it in the air it makes around the same horizontal difference as shieldbreaker, but usually over less time because it comes out and ends faster, and because of it's slight vertical improvement that it has that shieldbreaker doesn't have, unless the shieldbreaker is fully charged it's generally more beneficial. It's never bad to throw in ONE dancing blade in a recovery.

What? Side b doesn't give you any horizontal distance at all. You use it to stall, or give you vertical distance after a jump.

 

[e__]

notice I said "difference".

It gives you a small vertical boost the first time you use it in the air, and with DI added into that it makes the same difference as a shieldbreaker horizontally, but it gives you more vertical leway because you don't plummet when you use it.

I would also recommend fairing through the stage against people who love to edgeguard too close.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

ok thanks e for the fairing tip.

 

[VietGeek]

For a more positive comment:

You used Shield Breaker rather well. I mean you overused it and I took the hits not concerned too much because it decayed, but you used it to out range all my attacks. Yay?

Aside from me spamming smashes, not using Dolphin Slash as much, and rolling and triangle jumping more than usual, that's how I play Marth dittos generally. Feel free to comment on any of us. We both need some help on this fair match-up.

Spoiler

nopuns

 

[magikguy]

way too many suicides from ike is solid . must of been laggy

 

[VietGeek]

Half second delay. He was playing too risky offstage. Bad on Wi-Fi naturally.

Plus we went to Lylat. Eww.

 

[3xSwords]

Solid don't finish DB combo if you didn't make the first hit. No point and sets you up for punishment. Also solid I think you rolled way too much especially in the 4th match.

Also Viet nice use of d-throw>f-smash

Marth dittos are funny.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Thanks a lot guys, it helps and thanks Viet, I know I overused Shield Breaker, but I tend to do that more on Wi-Fi, and yes, I recover better off of Wi-Fi, and yes, I suck at recovering on Lylat.

 

[Desire]

d throw- f smash is old for marth dittos. can just Di away. ( marth dittos )

btw, Lylat is nothing. Pokemon Sdium = worst. good matches

 

[3xSwords]

D-throw to f-smash at 0% is guaranteed I believe. I do not know they highest % where this combo is guaranteed but would highly appreciate it.

 

[Retroking2000]

your marths are great but what no DI traps

 

[Desire]

D-throw to f-smash at 0% is guaranteed I believe. I do not know they highest % where this combo is guaranteed but would highly appreciate it.

No, its guaranteed on only certn chrcters. Ex. MK, D3 , ..

marth dittos, marth can DI away from it. so i suggest f throw to DB or F air

 

[VietGeek]

your marths are great but what no DI traps

On Smashville, I tried to juggle trap him, but the platform saved him, lol.

Also there was a campier battle where I grabbed released him off FD and he gimped himself.

<_<

Seriously, they didn't think things through when they made some of these stages unless they just like to screw with people not using characters with OP recoveries.

No, its guaranteed on only certn chrcters. Ex. MK, D3 , ..

marth dittos, marth can DI away from it. so i suggest f throw to DB or F air

Yeah, you can DI away from it just slightly.

 

[Tp_Fox]

I only saw the first match and it was horrible.

 

[VietGeek]

I only saw the first match and it was horrible.

Did you expect it to be good? Despite that it's on Wi-Fi and it's a ditto match?

Really man, what? You kid right?

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

your marths are great but what no DI traps

Thanks a lot Tears, and thanks a lot Tip_Fox for saying our matches were horrible. Yes, I know I suck, but still, like Viet said, you have to be kidding. But really, what does a n00d know?