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Whytf is peach so good on brinstar?

j3ly

j3ly

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I dont get it, i am a Mario main, who is supposed to get beasted by peach cause of her range and power, and i feel by far the most confident on this stage vs a peach


You take an excellent gimp-artist like peach, and take away her to kill from a gimp consistently because of the fire at the bottom. (marios biggest weakness, god knows i never ever die from the side blast-lines)

Then there are those globe things in the middle - i camp these, and the peach cant be too dsmash spammy cause she might SD (call me on this if u like, but it still works lol), and the lengthened hitboxes haven't ever been a problem for me.

Finally, as the side boxes are so close to those platforms, she looses her defense of being extreamly difficult to kill of the side, Mario can take her down at 70% from a bair near the edge.


I dont understand! This stage will always be my CP against Peach
Mute is **** tho, that will be the subject of many bans
 
j3ly

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Tres u got any vids? YouTube is slow atm, but I'd like to see ur style
 
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Peach is good on Brinstar because of her amazing ability avoid the acid and her ability to punish those who are hit.

and No Peach should ever SD because she Dsmashed the mold. That's a HUGE part of my Brinstar strategy and it works fine for me.
 
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At max, she'll get hit twice in a row by the lava, while fox can take 5-6 hits on a bad day
also, lava into dsmash does mad damage
I've actually began to prefer it to Mute, because people can navigate mute, but movement gets really weird on bstar. Meanwhile, peach just floats over ****
 
j3ly

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ok good finally people tell me whats up.

if peach is only 1/2 over the mould then i guess yeah, hitbox galore, but surely that could only hit if i was standing ontop of the mould - which i never do lol. u get peaches, then u get the other peaches who float cancel -> slap -> dmash ALL the time. Its a solid strategy, but shame for those who think its all they need to take out low tiers. By spacing my character around the mould (i was wondering what they were), i can force her into a position where she either chooses another approach, or Dsmashes ontop of it. also while using my superior platform mobility, its not too hard to get to and whittle down the mould. But it regrows pretty fast, so yeah. also i loose my ability to fall really fast with an aerial from the top platform, which is a shame.

The acid makes sense. So is this a case of most do bad on the stage, where she does OK (high ceiling, ability to avoid acid, acid -> fair low%kill), or what? Im thinking maybe its just an exception for Mario then, he gets beasted on mute but brinstar is an awesome stage. 2nd best CP against Fox, sure i loose my ability to cape/nair edgeguard but the bounce off the acid means a sure bair kill will little accuracy, so i dont consider that a downfall. As for falco... hmm im not too sure cause his recovery already sucks. But then i have nice CG's in the center, and he cant use platform lasers too often cos their so weird. Sorry that was all unrelated, theories in my mind comming down on the page by mistake lol
 
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j3ly said:
ok good finally people tell me whats up.

if peach is only 1/2 over the mould then i guess yeah, hitbox galore, but surely that could only hit if i was standing ontop of the mould - which i never do lol. u get peaches, then u get the other peaches who float cancel -> slap -> dmash ALL the time. Its a solid strategy, but shame for those who think its all they need to take out low tiers. By spacing my character around the mould (i was wondering what they were), i can force her into a position where she either chooses another approach, or Dsmashes ontop of it. also while using my superior platform mobility, its not too hard to get to and whittle down the mould. But it regrows pretty fast, so yeah. also i loose my ability to fall really fast with an aerial from the top platform, which is a shame.

The acid makes sense. So is this a case of most do bad on the stage, where she does OK (high ceiling, ability to avoid acid, acid -> fair low%kill), or what? Im thinking maybe its just an exception for Mario then, he gets beasted on mute but brinstar is an awesome stage. 2nd best CP against Fox, sure i loose my ability to cape/nair edgeguard but the bounce off the acid means a sure bair kill will little accuracy, so i dont consider that a downfall. As for falco... hmm im not too sure cause his recovery already sucks. But then i have nice CG's in the center, and he cant use platform lasers too often cos their so weird. Sorry that was all unrelated, theories in my mind comming down on the page by mistake lol
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I'm just noticing a common misconception among low tier players. They seem to have the idea that they can just outspace high tier player and win, and don't realize that either A) the High tier player might have good spacing or B) that the high tier character might outspace the low tier. Not saying you're a dumb player or you're deluded, but you can't just expect to be able to space against a peach.
It's really hard to force peach into approaching. If I were presented with a position like the one you listed in the first paragraph, I'd probably just camp.
Also, not to be mean, but if I wanted to learn mario tricks/strats on brinstar, I'd probably go to the mario boards.
 
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The last paragraph/thing was 100% pointless - i am no idiot lol.
Well, theres nothing more i can say here. I'll go and find myself my own methods, and come back one day when i have actually cracked Marios strategic play, which i only began to unravel/think about recently due to playing no smash and leaving my cube miles away.

I don't think that i can outspace peach :confused:, no methods to do so (as far as i am aware) have been developed as of yet. Whether or not its possible.. with my new smash mind-set, id have to get back to you on that one.

Remember my name. Mario is being played wrong by everybody who has ever touched him (me included). Somebody just needs to care enough, the current strategies are worthy of the bottom of the middle tier - it is 100% possible to reinvent this. He will never move up the tier, but i will crack how to use him as if he had been top tier all along.

ty for the opinions, the people who gave them.
j3ly outtt
 
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Me toooooo. :(

Pink Shinobi! Can't you hitch a ride to tourneys? There must be SOMEONE near you who goes. I'm sick of Jeff always winning.
 
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pink shinobi

was ****

especially when he was like a total random

on waffles videos

they were like whos this peach?

lol mad funny
 
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:D that's ok, we've just decided i'm the best dittoer on the WC

ps weren't we supposed to mm for like 100 dollars and you were just going to give me a 1 stock lead
 
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