Falco has infinites? x_X INFO. NOW!
Okay, on the Falco infinite, it is really a pseudo-infinite. I refer to it as an 'infinite,' but I forgot the quotes. It's where the Falco keeps using the shine to knock you up, then jumps and d-air spikes you down, shine up, spike down, rinse, repeat. I haven't found a way to break out of it other than continuous DI in the opposite direction in which the Falco is going with the 'infinite.' It's REALLY painful no matter what you do, though, and seems nearly impossible to break out of until some percentage. Dope, who is a fairly advanced Falco player, was able to pull this off a lot back when I played him.
So, if a Peach player chooses to wall bomb instead of using her second jump, that's stalling? So you force them to use their second jump? That's not very nice.
And what if you miss the DJC'd fair ten times and have to wall bomb up? Would you say that someone who misses ten times with a DJC'd fair and falls over the edge, leaving no way to survive but wallbombing, is stalling and needs to get disqualified?
If you are too close and wallbomb, you get a good bit of lag. Then you need to DI from the building before starting the next bomber. That could easily take enough time for you to fall to the bottom of the stage. So if you miss a wall bomber, you are stalling?
And what if you get hit when you gets up, and don't want to recover with the parasol because that just would make you get hit by the edgeguarder again? Would you count it as stalling if you're just trying to survive?
I said the Bomber can only be used for recovery purposes. If the Peach player opts to do that instead so they could, say, air dodge onto the stage or cancel a potential spike, by all means. That part was covered by the recovery ruling on wallbombing that always holds true.
I cannot recall ANY situation that REQUIRES or even RECOMMENDS using an f-air ten times in a row in order to recover. It also has to go into how the whole match is played. Does the Peach player repeatedly do it when he/she has another option? Does he/she keep going back to the same place to do it? If it's a clear pattern of trying to stall like that, then that is when a DQ should be issued.
You might have honor. I do not. If something without any problems can give me the win, I would use it.
Well, like I said, it's different for every person. In recent tournaments, I haven't heard of any DQs for stalling, nor complaining about stalling. So you may be the only one that would honestly consider it. However, Fourside was banned because of stalling. Stalling has been banned. Why should we also ban Fourside if the thing that caused it to be banned is gone?
If you are near the top, but by misstake makes an non-smash bomber instead of a smash, falls down, DIs out, and first can start wallbombing again at the bottom, would that be stalling? Not being able to do it perfectly is stalling?
That's where things get blurry. I know I don't have wallbombing down as an art, though it won't stop me from trying to recover using it. However, the only area in which a Peach player would have the opportunity to do that would be if they were decently close to the top of the level, anyhow. This is the only area in which I agree with you that it's hard to tell. Is the person feigning their inability to do a perfect wallbomb every time? Or is it the real deal and they're just desperate to come back alive? I think here, the only way to really tell is to pay attention to the Peach player. If they showed the ability to always do a perfect wallbomb, then when they 'happen' to 'miss' a perfect wallbomb more times than they should, they're stalling.
But here is the only place I can see your point. The rest, I can't see very well.
Camping might be "looked down upon", but it's without a doubt one of the most useful strategies in a lot of games, including this.
Camping and stalling are two different things. There are strategies that work against campers. Against stallers, there is no strategy to it other than always keeping them out of that situation.
