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While he isn't my current main (Ness is), I agree with your post. He's the first character I played as in a Smash game, and, like you said (even though I haven't played his game), he's led me to my favorite series of all time, the Mother series, and has led me to being a Ness mainis one of my favorite video characters of all-time, and if weren't for him, I would've never gotten into various different genres of games than I would previously; I never would've guessed that the Fire Emblem series would become one of my favorite franchises. Plus, each of his attacks are so satisfying to connect!
Damn, that's so nice, I hope to have the joy of one day discovering a character from a game I love getting in. While I love Ridley as a character, I don't have lots of nostalgia for the Metroid games. Hopefully Crash gets in and has a moveset that resonates with me. Or Louie, but I know that won't happen.always and forever. I still have my EarthBound cartridge, strategy guide and the box they came in (still with the big Wal*Mart sticker on the front lol). I was actually going to buy Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening for GB, but I saw that EarthBound was cheaper AND it came with a strategy guide! (For the record, I did end up buying LoZ:LA later, which was also excellent). It was the first video game that I would think about day and night the whole time I was playing. It was so quirky and different from anything that I had played before and coming from a small town really resonated with my middle-school-aged self.
When Smash Bros. was announced in Nintendo Power magazine with Ness as part of the roster, I was beside myself. The rest is history.
You’ll get better, he just takes a while to get used to, especially his more advanced play. And don’t worry about forgetting to save the PKT2 kill. I probably have more than 100 PKT2 kills and I only save the really cool ones. You’ll get plenty moreDamn, that's so nice, I hope to have the joy of one day discovering a character from a game I love getting in. While I love Ridley as a character, I don't have lots of nostalgia for the Metroid games. Hopefully Crash gets in and has a moveset that resonates with me. Or Louie, but I know that won't happen.
I main Ness because I find Ness really awesome. He's always been a character, where when I hear someone mains him, I think they're cool because of it, but until now, I've never tried to main him myself because I didn't think I'd be any good with him, and his moveset didn't work with me. However, I picked him up as soon as I unlocked him this time, and surprisingly, his moveset really resonated with me! Not sure if it's the change of engine or if I'm just better than I used to be, but I have so much fun with this character now! I'm still upset I forgot to save my replay of me landing a PK Thunder 2 that hit the stage, but rather than grabbing on the edge, went and hit Lucas (CPU, but it's still something I've never seen in my life, and can't find anywhere, so the chances must be incredibly low). Problem is, there are days where I'm just really bad with Ness. Something about how differently he controls, I guess, has it so that I'm thrown off if I try playing him after playing someone else earlier that day. Can take me up to a couple of hours to get good with him again after not playing him for a while, but when I'm doing well, he's probably my best character, other than Wario.
I've gotten probably half a thousand PK Thunder 2 kills, but I've never been able to recreate the one where I hit the side of the stage with the PK Thunder 2, Ness paused for a bit, and then kept going forward, instead of grabbing the ledge, and hit the opponent. Not sure how to redo it, and I can't find it anywhere online.You’ll get better, he just takes a while to get used to, especially his more advanced play. And don’t worry about forgetting to save the PKT2 kill. I probably have more than 100 PKT2 kills and I only save the really cool ones. You’ll get plenty more
I'm in the exact same boat... I had no clue who Ness is when I started playing as him. I still haven't played Earthbound, actually... I should probably do that sometime.It seems like I’m one of the few people who picked up Ness while having no idea what Earthbound even was at the time. Of course I played it later and it just made me love Ness even more but I’ve never picked mains in Smash based on my favorite characters
It’s definitely worth it. One of my favorite RPGs of all time nowI'm in the exact same boat... I had no clue who Ness is when I started playing as him. I still haven't played Earthbound, actually... I should probably do that sometime.
I always did feel the early reactions of Ridley being bad were a bit premature. Like, when I actually got the game I didn't think he was bad at all.I tend to gravitate towards the characters that the majority deem mediocre or bad. In sm4sh, I mained Ganondorf, and in Ultimate I main Ridley. Back when he was first revealed, though I was happy for the fans who wanted him for the longest time, I never thought I'd want to play him; In fact, I had no idea who to play. It was only when the game was released for testing, and when people were downtalking him, that I decided he was the character. (It certainly helps that Ridley's character and moveset is appealing to me. Though I really love Kirby's games, there's a reason you don't see me playing him. I never liked floaties.)
I guess I do it as a personal challenge to prove that the characters aren't as bad as they're made out to be. Turns out Ridley is beginning to look promising. Even so, I'll stick with him. It'd be a success of proving his worth.
That's similar to how I started playing Jigglypuff; I came for Rollout and stayed for the aerials.In every fighting game I play, I pick characters with a strong neutral game. Characters that can safely pressure with defensive play, then trigger a sudden offensive when their opponent slips up. Turns out, this is a property that is almost exclusive to top tier characters, so I have a pretty good track record there.
In the case of palutena, I started playing her just because I liked her explosive flame, then as I played more, I realized the rest of her kit was actually really solid. Strong neutral, strong offense, but weak at getting out of enemy pressure. Exactly my kind of character. YL also ticks all my main checkboxes, who I still play as a secondary.
What I think you're describing is what happens when you jam Down on the control stick as you're approaching the ledge. Instead of snapping to the ledge you'll run into it and bounce, and you can do a second PKT within a few frames to recover if you're fast enough. If you have an opponent who is camping right at the ledge it can actually hit them, but it's extremely punishable, very situational, and a high likelihood you'll end up SDing. Most characters won't snap to ledge if you hold Down on the control stick - most notably Ganondorf and C. Falcon's Up B will pass the ledge and get opponents on stage, and I think the Links' Up Bs do it too. This was a thing in at least Smash 4 as well.I've gotten probably half a thousand PK Thunder 2 kills, but I've never been able to recreate the one where I hit the side of the stage with the PK Thunder 2, Ness paused for a bit, and then kept going forward, instead of grabbing the ledge, and hit the opponent. Not sure how to redo it, and I can't find it anywhere online.
Problem is that I'm not really loyal to my mains, I play a variety of characters, so it's challenging to get used to things like Ness and his recovery or Fox and his jumping/falling.
This also applies to holding up as well, at least with some characters. I've failed to snap the ledge far too many times with lucina, and I'm pretty sure it's because I wasn't releasing up fast enough.Most characters won't snap to ledge if you hold Down on the control stick - most notably Ganondorf and C. Falcon's Up B will pass the ledge and get opponents on stage, and I think the Links' Up Bs do it too. This was a thing in at least Smash 4 as well.
I know about the second PK Thunder, but nah, it was a single PK Thunder. I ran into the ledge, and for some reason, it paused there for a second, before the momentum returned, and he kept going, not grabbing onto the ledge, and headbutting Lucas, doing the big PK Thunder 2 zoom before he blasted away.What I think you're describing is what happens when you jam Down on the control stick as you're approaching the ledge. Instead of snapping to the ledge you'll run into it and bounce, and you can do a second PKT within a few frames to recover if you're fast enough. If you have an opponent who is camping right at the ledge it can actually hit them, but it's extremely punishable, very situational, and a high likelihood you'll end up SDing. Most characters won't snap to ledge if you hold Down on the control stick - most notably Ganondorf and C. Falcon's Up B will pass the ledge and get opponents on stage, and I think the Links' Up Bs do it too. This was a thing in at least Smash 4 as well.
Unless you're talking about that weird wall-riding thing that only happens on one side of the stage?