Mike231
Smash Rookie
I think he should at least be middle tier.
I'm asking for good reasons why he isn't.
I'm asking for good reasons why he isn't.
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Nope, It's actually based on wide tournament performance of that individual charachter by players. That means how good that charachter does in tournaments. That indirectly could be essientially the same or similar to their charachter matchups though. The last time I investigated more deeply on this topic was a while ago I might need to check to make sure thoughIt's all relative. People shouldn't look at it as "Young Link is in the low tier". Young Link is ranked up against each opponent individually and placed in accordance to the number of his good/bad matchups. His position really isn't all that bad.
Hahahahaha.I think not a lot of people use our youngin' Link because if you hit anybody with a sword, it shouldn't sound like you're hitting them with a really hard paddle.
--evil glare--Tiers are just opinions. Im just glad no body uses Young Link. It makes my match ups in tournaments alot easier since most people have never played a good Young Link.
or one sheik anything to f-air...Laijin can't be more right...its like you combo a marth all to pieces, and he gets lucky with one f-smash tipper, you just lost your stock.
btw guys. Dogy is referring to the awesomeness that is Laijin's Young Link.--evil glare--
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In all seriousness, though, after playin a lil' y.link myself, I have to put him in the same boat as Doc/Mario.
That boat being the preference boat.
Like somebody mentioned, the tier list this year is based off of tournament performance. Doesnt go off of character potential, doesnt really go off of character rankings, just tournament results.
And Link's higher than Y.Link. When I see that, that just makes me think Link's used more, and therefore will naturally do better than Y.Link.
But it's not like Y.Link's worse than link.
This is where the Mario/Doc statement comes back.
I used to play Mario as my main, but I switched to Doc. I actually like how Mario plays moreso than Doc, but Doc fits more into my playstyle.
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The tierlist is just the opinions of a bunch of people who sat around and said "Yeah, this character generally beats the hell out of these characters, so lets put them up there".
So like I was leaning towards in my last post, once you get past - oh say the middle of the mid tier, the rest of it really doesnt matter tierwise.
Hell, be glad Y.Link's low tier. I wish I could use Doc in low tier tournaments. I'm actually kinda jealous.
Yea.There is one possible reason. Y. Link up-B lacks a semi spike. Seriously is he had one he would be like middle tier. But..he doesn't, why? Because Y. Link lacks power, he is really light. His Bow is a tad better but his boomerang lacks range plus his Smash attacks except D-smash can't really kill. Plus..no bomb jump err sort of.
Y. Link is suited for more like slower larger characters, or probably spam game..but he is not better than Link.
Not really. Young Link has plenty of techs. And just cause you've mastered every tech with one character does not make you good. I know plenty of people like that in GA who literally look really really good because they have mastered every tech with that character, but lack mind games So they are not that amazing.In my opinion, tech skills > mind games.
Young Link don't really have anything to "gay" some one as well. Fox has shine spikes, Sheik has chain throws, Falco has laser/shine/dair, Marth has tippers, and so forth. They can all kill are fairly low percentages, while Young Link has to build up to 120+ to kill.
Mindgames depend of the player, not the character.But isn't mindgames what count? So his few attacks are pretty hard to kill with, i think Young Link has one of the most mindgames ever. I mean even picking him for a friendly or a Tourney is a mindgame itself...people are all like "what? Young Link? Are you serious?" Mindgames!
Let's see which fox, captain falcon or falco in the world, with an almost perfect control of their character, can beat mikael's peach or ken's marth.In my opinion, tech skills > mind games.
Broad, but right, I can list positive attributes of Y. Link as well, but the reason we can list them is because we've played as him enough to weed out many of his weaknesses, and focus on what works for us. Those tactics are the good amoung the bad, and aren't better then those of any character above him. Y. Link isn't the worst, but he's not great, and it's exactly for the reasons you listed. You can nail someone with a ridiculous combo of nearly everymove every move in your repetoire and they can still come back and kill you in just a few moves. His only 0-death death combos are into d-airs, which isn't an easy feat. Other characters without such flaws are better, that is why Y. Link is low tier. Get used to it, life goes on, it's just a reason to prove how good you can be even with some drawbacks.why does it seem taht every low tier forum tends to ridiculously overrate their character? ylink is low tier because he just isn't very good lol he's got some good matchups to be sure, but he isn't a good character. weak, light, easy to kill ylink, hard to kill with ylink.
yeah, i'm gonna be broad, deal with it.
Read the post Gimpy. I said, in a nutshell, that he has good KO potential, his F-smash shouldn't be used regularily and only with his second slash, his boomerang has moderate range and should most often be able to hit you're opponent when thrown and doesn't mean he is low tier, and that Young Link is a better choice of charachter than Link. Get it? I never ridiculously overrated him, just stated some reasonable opinions that are true IMOwhy does it seem taht every low tier forum tends to ridiculously overrate their character?
How can a charachter have "good matchups to be sure" but "isn't very good"? Matchups are what most often make up the charachter's status in tournament play. If you would be more specific on which matchups he had were good then I might understand your point. Young Link isn't a bad charachter and isn't a great charachter, and I've never have gone against that. But to be sure I'd say he's at least good.ylink is low tier because he just isn't very good lol he's got some good matchups to be sure, but he isn't a good character.
"weak"weak, light, easy to kill ylink, hard to kill with ylink.
Actually Young Link doesn't have a 0-death death combo with his dairs LOL. I'm sure maybe you could get a 0-death death combo with a finishing dair...... somehow, but it's not the only way to get one. In fact you're probably never going to get a 0-death death combo unless the people you play don't know how to DI you're attacks, that and Young Link really has no 0-death death combo potential.His only 0-death death combos are into d-airs, which isn't an easy feat.
Young Link isn't low tier because he can't do a 0-death combos on a regular basis. It's because most players that use Young Link don't place very good in tourneys, according to the tier list that is.Other characters without such flaws are better, that is why Y. Link is low tier. Get used to it, life goes on, it's just a reason to prove how good you can be even with some drawbacks.
deal with what? Young Link is not a great charachter and doesn't do great in tournaments too, which is the true reason why he is low tier, not charachter potential. I've yet to see me overrating him. GGzyeah, i'm gonna be broad, deal with it.