Links dair has even more priority, and use DI to get easily out of it and also leaves her in vulnerability often
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why is Link<Samus
- Thread starter AlKrauser
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SuperMetroid44
Smash Lord
It seems like you're ignoring the reasons why he really sucks 
Mikhas
Smash Apprentice
You can't DI out of Samus' upB.
Mr. Rogu
Smash Ace
well i think samus is better cause of her amazing spike
Winston
Smash Master
Superstar
Smash Champion
Slide DI also should theoretically help there. 3 inputs per quarter rotation. It's multihit so it helps more there.
Secondhand info.
Secondhand info.
Mikhas
Smash Apprentice
Yes, you can DI during the last couple hits, but you can't DI out before then. You're still going to take the majority of the damage from it.
Who said anything about anything other than smash DI? When talking about DI in 64 it is implicit that it is smash DI you're referring to.
Winston
Smash Master
see, the thing is, you said "you CAN'T DI out of samus' up b"
now think about the only reasonable interpretation of what that means...
so I assumed you didn't know anything about DI in this game, haha
also the damage isn't what's important, if you're out of the hitstun before the move ends you can find opportunities to punish.
Darth Rancorous
Smash Ace
true fact. i use her upB all the time and my opponents can never get out of it
Darth Rancorous
Smash Ace
her spike is just one of her many great features
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
Her spike sucks...hard to combo into, lowest knock back (out of spikes...i think) and her ****ty recovery means if you fail a spike you get punished badly
Mikhas
Smash Apprentice
I've never seen this happen. Maybe if you DI down you can land first and be close to Samus when she lands, but I'm not sure if that is possible since you'd be DIing into Samus. In most cases you'll be hit far enough away by the last hits of it as to not be close enough to be able to punish her for it.
Try improving your DI?
If you do it well, you get out of it and you can grab her or start whatever combo you want to her
But im not the best one to speak, i must say that i use keyboard to do DI lol.
SuPeRbOoM
Smash Master
DI away from samus's upb and you'll be able to punish
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Can anybody find a video of this happening? Samus's Up-B has basically been a guaranteed 15%, or a shield break(If not, close) when I'm victim to it.
As for priority, I've had MANY times where I'll hit Samus during her Up-B, the game will even make a noise registering such, but she'll take no damage, and I'll get sucked in.
As for priority, I've had MANY times where I'll hit Samus during her Up-B, the game will even make a noise registering such, but she'll take no damage, and I'll get sucked in.
Darth Rancorous
Smash Ace
her spike is awesome. its as strong as falcons dair. as far as missing a spike, you just have to use z-cancel in order to eliminate the lag that would normally follow
Search on youtube, but i'll tell you that I did it myself many times on emulator
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
ahaha play me online...
SSB64-Jel
Smash Lord
I use to main Samus and I like playing Samus duels they are fun.
Wenbobular
Smash Hero
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Any of you people who say Samus's Up-B can't be DI'd out of, what level opponents were you playing, and what level players are you anyways? I've personally DI'd enough times out of Samus's Up-b, on console no less, to say that it is very possible to escape and punish.
Play better people dudes.
Play better people dudes.
Dylan_Tnga
Smash Master
Same, I can easily DI out of it depending on how it catches me. But if all the hits connect you can still influence where you will be knocked too and get to a favourable defensive position
Darth Rancorous
Smash Ace
lol, sorry, i only play on the console. but, if youre ever down to smash, just pm me
Darth Rancorous
Smash Ace
it has happened to me a few times, but most of the time my opponents cant escape. personally, im between a level 4 and 5a. i havent been using z-cancel for that long, but i do know how to play with samus extremely well
Darth Rancorous
Smash Ace
samus can also influence where her opponents will be knocked to
Superstar
Smash Champion
Wenbobular
Smash Hero
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What?
DI is what your opponent does. Usually it has much more impact on a multihit than the attacker, unless it's something like a drill. Zzz.
I'm pretty sure Samus's last hit has near set knockback, and as far as I can tell, you can't influence which direction they go (quite frankly I don't think it matters all that much anyways).
Which basically means Darth dude who isn't DarthFox, play better people. I don't really care about the people who you play that probably don't know about DI or aren't good enough to get out of screw attacks, my point was that it's very possible to get out of screw attacks with good DI and combating what I'm saying with examples of your own matches doesn't help your argument. ~_~
Me three on the facepalm V_V
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Those who are saying you can influence which direction you pop out of the Samus Up-B at should probably play more against Samus. You WILL get sent, barring total abnormalities , the opposite direction that Samus is heading towards.
Superstar
Smash Champion
That's what DI is for.
To get out before the final hit.
The only problem is, Samus is fairly difficult to punish, and least vertically.
To get out before the final hit.
The only problem is, Samus is fairly difficult to punish, and least vertically.
Darth Rancorous
Smash Ace
well put shadic
Dylan_Tnga
Smash Master
The up b is an amazing move, I also believe it has the highest priority in the game, though I wont state that as fact vs other scary moves like pika uair and kirby utilt.
And yeah you're right about being knocked the opposite direction of samus
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
Shadic
Alakadoof?
So you're implying that you can DI out of a Samus Up-B if you're caught in the center of it? I've had no luck trying to DI out in any direction, unless I'm lucky enough to be on the edge of the attack in the first place.
You could be helpful instead of a jerk, you know. A quick how-to would be a lot more helpful than quoting Facepalms and saying "QFT."
You could be helpful instead of a jerk, you know. A quick how-to would be a lot more helpful than quoting Facepalms and saying "QFT."
Lawrencelot
Smash Lord
You should follow your opponent's DI while doing Samus's upB.
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
we already explained it, you chose to keep saying the same thing again and again, i dont ever put input in twice...(unless its the case of SWF vs Ness, ive done that a few times but i wont any more)
D
Deleted member
Guest
You can DI out of Samus's Up-B if you are good at DI-ing even if you are stuck in the middle. Just because you can't doesn't mean its impossible.
Also, if you catch your opponent in an Up-B and you are heading right, but the opponent is on the right side of the up-b attack, he will be sent to the right side, rather than the left side as you claim. It's not a total abnormality. It's just how the move works. What I typed was a little confusing, but just know that you are wrong.
Since you want an how-to, simply mash a direction really quickly or do the slide-DI technique where you move the joystick from top-right to bottom-right back and forth quickly. I prefer the mash a single direction really quickly. It just works better for me.
Shadic
Alakadoof?
I'll try that.
But by the single direction method, do you mean smash a direction right when you get caught in it, or continuously smashing a direction while caught in the attack?
But by the single direction method, do you mean smash a direction right when you get caught in it, or continuously smashing a direction while caught in the attack?
D
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Superstar
Smash Champion
Reading AntD's DI thread from the offical smash index is good stuff.
In 64, while in freezeframes, continuosly mashing a direction does multiple DI imputs. Slide DI, sliding the stick, also works.
It's not just mash once and you're done.
In 64, while in freezeframes, continuosly mashing a direction does multiple DI imputs. Slide DI, sliding the stick, also works.
It's not just mash once and you're done.
Darth Rancorous
Smash Ace
im sorry, you can try to DI out of samus' upB but it wont happen. i tried it on both malva and tigerbombz and neither were able to get out of it ;-P