Why don't people pivot walk more?

[Hagar]

Besides looking really cool, pivot walking can be used to confuse your opponent and have an edge when it comes to spacing.

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9OnYrvCZZs&feature=related(1:51-end)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoyrrB4lP34&feature=related(0:49-0:52)

It's most useful with characters such as falco, marth, link, sheik, and zero suit samus. Let me know what you think.

 

[Barge]

Theres better options.

I only use it as a taunt :D

 

[Samuelson]

You're playing CPU's...

 

[Maniclysane]

You're playing CPU's...

He's only demonstrating the uses of it.

 

[Melomaniacal]

It accomplished nothing in either of those videos.

 

[ndayday]

If you can make it work for yourself, that's cool but last I checked most people don't like it at all as a stragety. It does make one of the best ROB taunts though.

 

[Hagar]

It accomplished nothing in either of those videos.

in the one vs. wario, it confused him into attacking instead of rolling. in the vs. snake one, it provided an option to grab instead of just running away, as the run>turnaround grab is slower than standing grab.

 

[ndayday]

in the one vs. wario, it confused him into attacking instead of rolling. in the vs. snake one, it provided an option to grab instead of just running away, as the run>turnaround grab is slower than standing grab.

They're CPU's, not humans. Therefore, you don't know if it would confuse a human. Personally, I get a bit shocked and carry on...they're not THAT good.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

It accomplished nothing in either of those videos.

ffs

it's a demonstration vs CPUs lol

 

[AvaricePanda]

Again, it was a computer. There are better options and better ways to punish than doing this.

Plus, it's too obvious what you'd be trying to do. Against a real player, it would just scream, "Olol, he's about to grab."

 

[pixelbind]

pivot walk chain grab with falco is too fun

 

[Kais3000]

pivot walk chain grab with falco is too fun

This I could never get to work.

Another thing is that in those videos the pivot walk was used way too much. It should be used sparringly as a way of "faking out" your opponent. It should not be used that much.

 

[kong_korps]

because its f*cking stupid,

its like going to a tournament, and saying

"I MINDGAMING CUZ IM PLAYIN U WITH MY SOCKS ON MY SHOES"

 

[UncleSam]

because its f*cking stupid,

its like going to a tournament, and saying

"I MINDGAMING CUZ IM PLAYIN U WITH MY SOCKS ON MY SHOES"

^^^ my new sig.

This I could never get to work.

Another thing is that in those videos the pivot walk was used way too much. It should be used sparringly as a way of "faking out" your opponent. It should not be used that much.

try sparingly as in when you opponent uses a move with a lot of landing lag and it looks as if you were going to run away, spin back and Pivot walk chain grab

 

[Melomaniacal]

in the one vs. wario, it confused him into attacking instead of rolling. in the vs. snake one, it provided an option to grab instead of just running away, as the run>turnaround grab is slower than standing grab.

Dash grab, pivot grab. Either way would've accomplished the same thing, but faster. The option to grab was always there, you turning around a few times didn't suddenly add the option.

If you're going to demonstrate something, demonstrate how it's useful, not how it's a less effective way of doing something else. It's easy to invent any random useless "technique" and just call it "mindgames." That doesn't make it good, nor does it make it a good mindgame.

If someone starts doing this to me, I don't stop and think "oh ****, he's turning around a lot, wtf should I do? What is HE going to do? Oh, god, I've been grabbed!" No. I'll continue doing what I was going to do.
Pointless technique is pointless.

 

[Nintendevil]

Better topic:

Why don't people Bturn/reverse more?

 

[ExCeL 52]

I dont know about everyone else but I dont do it because it gives my opponent more time to predict my attack. And it also leaves me more vurneralbe for a attack. Im up going to turn around and turn back around my opponent is going to know im not just doing it for some stupid reason and he is going to respond to the pivot. The only characters that I can see this really helping in are for Marth since his blade relies soo heavily on the tipper/ sweet spot and Diddy Kong since he can use his bananas screw his opponent around and his side smash is good after pivoting.

 

[Jonas]

It's a cool dance move.

 

[UncleSam]

It's a cool dance move.

and we know people can't dance jk

Better topic:

Why don't people Bturn/reverse more?

because there aren't many uses other than showing off, and if you're in a tourney match and you're showing off how will that help you at all?

 

[Endless Nightmares]

because there aren't many uses other than showing off, and if you're in a tourney match and you're showing off how will that help you at all?

Not necessarily. Bturns and B-reverse attacks are actually extremely useful, but the degree depends on the character. Some characters get nothing at all from it, however it greatly accelerates other characters' gameplay. With Snake I often pick up a grenade, jump forward and then B-reverse another grenade which allows me to keep my distance.

 

[Panix]

This thread needs more captain falcon moon walking.

I don't Pivot walk because im snake, and if I do and I miss my bair, I get punished harddddddd.

I use B-reverse when falling from the air, pull a nade, b reverse, puts me in a wierd position, i get hit, but they do to, nice position for a bair.

 

[Tenki]

Some characters get an extra slide out of a pivot shield.

like, pivot walk+shield and you slide a bit forward.

That, plus if they have a quick F-air and/or B-air (or a quick all-covering move) can mean they can safely pivot walk while invading the opponent's spacing further, since it helps to 'negate' or counter shield push a little bit.

Examples:
Marth's pivot walk/ pivot shield slide is pretty strong, and he has aerials that complement it pretty well.

Sonic also gets a noticeable shield slide, but at the most, he can like, N-air, U-air, or reverse F-air out of shield unless the opponent goes through the pivot shield or has a laggy move that he can B-air.

 

[Ninjaneos]

i think its because people find it unuseful

 

[B!squick]

Playing Bowser, I pivot walk for lols.

 

[POKE40]

People do pivot walk...

I pivot walk anyways.
Due to better spacing. Specially with G&W spacing to Fsmash w/c-stick on that hated stage of FD

Usually I think if a G&W is not in the air. They are probably pivot walking.
Like you said. But pivot walking is used only in some circumstances.
So people do pivot walk. Just not a lot of times

 

[Tiersr4Queers]

because its f*cking stupid,

its like going to a tournament, and saying

"I MINDGAMING CUZ IM PLAYIN U WITH MY SOCKS ON MY SHOES"

lmao playin u with my sox and my shoes lol tats funny :D