Why doesn't X pokemon get Y attack/ability/typing?

[Smitty Werben Jaeger Man Jensen]

This doesn't explain the surfing rock phenomenon, though.

One day, Game Freak decided to go for some fresh air and go by the pond. Very bored for the lack of ideas that could be created, some random guy threw a rock across the pond. Amused by the effects of skipping rocks across the pond, another random guy exclaimed, "oMggg!! Rocks kan creayte ripples in da wateh, imagine surfin' rocks noa!". And with Rhydon having is line of specials, Surf was added, as well as a giant prehistoric rock monster thingy and the giant steal fatty Aggron. Sneazel was their one mistake, and they are all hitting themselves with martinis.............

Edit:

I guess Dugtrio has claws underneath the ground. But we'll never see them.

You also never see them in Poke stadium and battle revolution...

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Dugtrio moves so fast with his claws that you can't see them when he attacks.

 

[Smitty Werben Jaeger Man Jensen]

Please, it's nowhere near Ninjask terrerory...

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Please, it's nowhere near Ninjask terrerory...

Yeah, but that's the most reasonable explana- oh right. Reason and Pokemon are lol.

 

[E123-omega]

Perhaps some rock types skip themselves over water. That count as surfing right?

 

[Smitty Werben Jaeger Man Jensen]

^ Please see skipping rocks over pond theory...

Now why can't Metagross learn Stone Edge?

 

[PowerBomb]

Perhaps some rock types skip themselves over water. That count as surfing right?

Rhyperior

7 feet, 10 inches

623.5 lbs

Base Speed: 40

 

[Smitty Werben Jaeger Man Jensen]

Secrets Revealed:

Ryperior's quaking footsteps cause fault lines to move in accordance to displace the water.

Rampardos just screws the rules, because he has money.

Sneasel yells at the water, and it moves it.

 

[E123-omega]

Sneasel can go basilisk on the water and dash across it.

 

[Charmander]

Rampardos just screws the rules, because he has money.

icwutudidthar

how in the name of living f*ck does tentacool get rapid spin?

 

[PowerBomb]

It spins rapidly. Is that really so hard?

 

[Charmander]

It spins rapidly. Is that really so hard?

For a jellyfish, yes it is.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Jellyfish aren't know for their speed.

 

[mood4food77]

yea, i think tenatcruel having a high base speed (100) is weirder than it having rapid spin

like i can picture tentacruel rapid spinning, but not really being fast

it's like the only fast pokemon that's meant to be defensive (the only other poke i can think of it milktank, who also is weird to picture being fast)

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Miltank looks slower than a lot of Pokemon (like say Honchkrow) but is faster. :|

 

[Smitty Werben Jaeger Man Jensen]

Ursurang is slower than Miltank. Cows are not faster than bears, but this is pokemon darn it!

Why can't Machamp learn Mach Punch?

 

[FAILchion-]

He's not really the fast type to throw a punch in the blink of an eye.

 

[PowerBomb]

Machamp can learn Bullet Punch -_-

 

[FAILchion-]

...I feel like an idiot now.

 

[Fuelbi]

Machamp can learn Bullet Punch -_-

Plus, the name of the move is Mach Punch. I mean MACH Punch

MACH Punch
MACHamp

But then you probably already noticed that right?

 

[Smitty Werben Jaeger Man Jensen]

MACH Punch
MACHamp

But then you probably already noticed that right?

But no one pronounces his name MACHamp, with emphasis on the first 4 letters. It's pronounced MAchamp, with more emphasis on the first two. (listen in the anime and the stadium games)

Gamefreak probably gave it this name on purpose, because it can throw punches at mach speed, and it's representative of a champion body builder.

Well, I asked because only a few families can learn it, why? Aqua jet, quick attack, even freaking Vacuum wave are more diverse than this one...

 

[Pete278]

According to the stats in his pokedex entry, (if I remember correctly), when punching at full sleep, Machamp punches once every 0.008 seconds. But that's not fast enough for a Mach Punch, apparently.

 

[Smitty Werben Jaeger Man Jensen]

Machamp's realization: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l63hdcmGOVM&feature=player_embedded#!

 

[Terywj [태리]]

...I feel like an idiot now.

Don't worry about it, buddy.

Plus, the name of the move is Mach Punch. I mean MACH Punch

MACH Punch
MACHamp

Flareon
Flare Blitz

Huh. That's funny.

 

[E123-omega]

Why can't Flygon learn bug bite, metapod can.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Flygon missed out on a lot of stuff...like Stealth Rock, for example.

 

[E123-omega]

And the monkey gets to throw stealthy rocks.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

And the monkey gets to throw stealthy rocks.

Not even the monkey, but the fat pink hoe does too. :|

 

[E123-omega]

Who would that be? Jynx?

EDIT: Blissey?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

It's Blissey, haha.

Flygon deserves Tinted Lens moreso than Stealth Rock, if anything.

 

[E123-omega]

Those lenses look tinted.

I guess the cooler hoenn dragon will always get the short end of the stick.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

And I can't see your image, but that's okay. I know what you mean.

 

[Pete278]

I wouldn't be surprised if Flygon didn't get any of the things he should in gen 5, with how Nintendo's been treating him, to be honest.

 

[PowerBomb]

Hey, he got Outrage and U-turn. U-turn especially distinguishes him from all of the other dragons.

...If he gets Tinted Lens in Gen 5 along with Swords Dance/Dragon Dance...

Actually, that would be fine. If Flygon got Tinted Lens and Swords Dance, that doesn't really seem broken at all. He fails to outspeed notable things and isn't ridiculously bulky like Chomp is.

 

[UltiMario]

Dragon Dance -> Kill everything. If you lock it into outrage, even your steels aren't safe. Sure, it won't do as much damage as DDMence, but it can't be resisted.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Tinted Lens+Dragon Dance would make Flyong pretty ridiculous. Nothing would resist anything.

 

[PowerBomb]

Basically everyone and their brother would be looking to pull off a Flygon sweep. That's why SD + Tinted Lens is more balanced. Or would be more balanced.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Not many things could take a Life Orb +2 Adamant Flygon's Earthquake / Dragon Claw combo. Dragon Dance just prevents being revenged.

 

[PowerBomb]

How would you stop a speedy Outrage that hits everything for neutral or SE damage? Wouldn't you want something like that to be able to be revenged?

I'm not sure if I'm doing this right, but +1 Outrage is a 2HKO against Skarmory.
Nearly an OHKO on Bronzong. Probably an OHKO with Stealth Rock up.
OHKO against Scarf Heatran.
2HKO against Defensive Steelix.
OHKO against Scizor...
2HKO against Aggron.
2HKO against Lugia, super small chance to OHKO after SR damage.

I'm using the smogon.com calculator. Is this correct? Can someone check if I'm doing this right?
+1 Attack with Life Orb and Tinted Lens taken into account. This is with Flygon having Tinted Lens blah blah blah

 

[mood4food77]

i think flygon having tinted lens would be too much

it's STAB moves are too good, only skarmory and levitating bronzong resist that combo and that's easily fixed with fire punch

while yes, it looks like it should have it, maybe because he's a dragon type makes tinted lens too much

hell, i just realized, using dragon type with tinted lens means dragon has perfect coverage (nothing resists it) so he could technically run outrage and dragon claw with any other 2 moves he wanted