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Whose Mafia Is it Anyway - Game Over!

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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Frozen I already mentioned that in my #2103.
I know you did I was too lazy to go back and quote it but the question was more posed to everyone else who's here like I already know you're considering the possibility seriously which is good to know but I wanted to see what other people thought
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Perhaps this could wait until postgame I want to exit the game and talk to you all from a perspective that is not vindictive towards my wincon.

Nothing I did in this game is reflective as to who I am as a person. Mafia is a game but I know that emotions can seep through no matter how hard we try to deny it, and I certainly felt those emotions. Any undertaking of this process was done in a strategical manner, and know that I don't particularily enjoy it. I hope I can continue to get along with you all and that you no longer hold any animosity towards me for my 'play' knowing it was an act.

Maybe that's wishful thinking? Maybe you do. That's fine either way. I'll have more words to say in-post-game, but holy **** am I tired.
 
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Okay so... this is awkward. I hate doing modkills, but here we are. I'm really sorry that it had to come to this.

I'm breaking the rules to post this so that people can have a counter argument to click like on.

**** off lol
Game Rules
10. No posting in the thread when you are dead, or during the night phase.
Lore - Town Bodyguard was modkilled in the Middle of Night 2.

Deadline is now 6 PM PST / 8 PM CST on Saturday, July 13th. No further commentary from GLG or Myself will happen with regards to this until the game is over.

(Also I know people will be mad at soup's deadpost but that was approved by GLG/I)
 
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Oh wait hold the ****ing phone a minute.

That was APPROVED without saying a ****ing word about it? Half the reason I made the post was because he broke the rules to make that post. I was keeping it polite and saying my disagreements in PM, trying to keep my temper in check, but this is absolutely ****ed up.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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You are usually allowed one bah go scum/go town post after you die. Spak did the same exact thing after he died:

Thanks for playing everybody; it was fun! Kill some scum for me and JeXs :p

Either way, it's done. This game doesn't involve you or me anymore.
 
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Spak didn't make a giant text wall that would affect the game overall. I took it (rightfully) as you continuing to be a player who disregards rules, common courtesy in game (not faking AtEs etc), and more.

So I (rightfully I might add) told you to **** off with that. If I had known that the mods had explicitly approved that garbage, I would have bitten my tongue and saved it for post game, knowing that you didn't break a rule to post it.

I have every right here to be livid.
 

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....What?
Players get one "bah go town/scum etc" post after death. They don't get a massive text wall that will affect the game going forward.

I saw you breaking the rules to make that post, and I responded with my exact thoughts on the matter, giving others a chance to click like and agree as well.

Instead, I find out that the mods fully approved that post with zero announcement. If I had known that, I would have held my tongue and known that at least you didn't break a rule to post it.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Nothing I said was made with the intent to influence the game. That's why I prefaced it the way I did. I'm dead. Nothing I say matters. I could talk about the weather in my post or make some kinda joke, but instead I told you how I personally felt towards the game. That isn't telling of anyone's alignment besides my own, and you already know it because I'm dead.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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IMMPRESSIONS AFTER SOUP AND LORE FLIP (ordered):

gorf:


town!marshy:


155,500%confirmedtown!kevinm:


Town!Ryker:


Noobtown!Pythag:


null!Ran:


null!Tom:


scumlean!ff:




Scum!fanny:


imo, if we lynch in the bottom 4, town wins.

vote: fandangox
 

#HBC | marshy

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5 v 2 rn

if we lynch a townie, vig hits a townie, then scum get a separate nightkill off, we ****ing lose
 

#HBC | marshy

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Fandangox Fandangox

depends on flips tbh.

I'm interested in FF/Marshy interactions.
I was also interested in you, but that's coming up kinda null.

As for soup/lore...
I've also been trying to factor in the fact that so many people consider soup scum. it certainly hurts having never played with him and seeing AtE used in such a way as Ryker and you just mentioned. I think even Kary wrote "I have written down to never trust PR claims from soup" Up until this most recent post by ryker and you, I thought everyone was kinda taking the piss. This makes me seriously rethink some things.


On the other hand, why would he claim oracle, as he literally only becomes useful to town when he's lynched?
I don't get why everyone wanted to kill an oracle claim before they even get to do anything, that doesn't make much sense to me. So I'm about to go relook what happened post claim.

soup definitely seems to be the play today though,

If he's town and truthful, we open up another townie, while removing all the suspicion from him from the game and learning a LOT through his lynch,
if he's scum, we eliminate scum and learn a LOT through his lynch

Seems smart to me.

vote soup
the whole way pythag went about this is scummy. hes not focusing on soups actual play. its just a mechanical justification for goin him prefaced with a lot of wishy washy language. reads like cautious scum
 

#HBC | marshy

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I’m stuck in traffic right now, phone posting.

I did a reread on soup (not in traffic), and was unimpressed.

More happy with my vote on soup.

Soup was speechless at Ryker.

All kinda seems like “why me fry me”
this was 40 minutes before deadline

before this, he had posted 3 hours before deadline

what townie decides to wait til the last 4 hours of the phase to reread the leading wagon? looks fake af
 

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Oh look I changed this
I did a re-read (only got to D1 though)

I was wrong on Ran.

Below are my notes basically copy pasted, but I'll try to do a brief summary that explains my reasoning.


On short. I think the most important aspect of why I think Ran is scum starts at his #331. He likes Soup cause he was the first one to look into Spak, but doesn't seem anything wrong with Soup just doing an almost hammer on Ryker as a "joke" right after. Thats when he makes a case on Spak shortly after, but didn't vote him. He then goes back and forth between townreading and scumreadign Soup, before deciding firmly that he is scum, but then still leaves the wagon at a pivotal point, despite sounding very confident that Soup is scum even saying he is "the play"

Vote: Ranmaru
 

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Oh look I changed this
a lot of Ran's post try to set up Lore and Soup as scum together, I admittedly did agree both were very scummy, but as Lore replied to Soup's AtE I abandoned the idea, Ran may have been setting Lore as a myslynch after Soup's flip.

Also Gorf you were one of the ones to spearhead the Orange Wagon, and your other scumlean FF, and your lowest Null Tom just flipped as Town.

You also left the Soup wagon D2 and joined Lore's after Kevin brought it up.

Gorf was also the one to convince Ryker to leave the Soup wagon D1.

If Ranmaru is scum, Gorf is the last teamate.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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bro dont use me making a competing wagon out of lore against me you shady bitxh i just wanted some sssssspice... and we got it

and now its your job to prove why my bad play was scum motivated instead of just stating things that i did. sure theres implicit implications on why those things are bad on a surface level, but town plays ****ty too.

cant hate on your ran read tho
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I am currently doing the highest level content available to me in FFXIV with friends. I'll be in here hella late, as is tradition.

I had intended to come out hard on FF, but that doesn't appear to be necessary anymore.

I like most of Gorf's read list. I flip Kevin and Fanny on it. I do not agree with either.

I'll do my reads list tonight.
 
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