Collective of Bears
King of Hug Style
I would just like to know: Who are our Professional PT players?
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Who are our Pokemon Masters?
- Thread starter Collective of Bears
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brinboy789
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i hear santi has an amazing charizard...and thats all i know of >_>
PkTrainerCris
Smash Ace
reflex is the best PT in tournies, he even won two recent tournaments
Knyaguy
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That last one almost started a flame war...
Sosuke
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Miles.
Smash Champion
Here you go Steeler.i've never seen a vid of santi's charizard...maybe i could learn something from him.
but if his squirtle and ivysaur aren't very good, then that kinda nullifies his charizard too, no matter how good it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYnuA38leV4&feature=related
Miles.
Smash Champion
Agreed.
But Santi is awesome.
So there.
Xp
But Santi is awesome.
So there.
Xp
Not necessarily, but I think rock smash is one of the better weapons against lagless characters like Meta. Not only is it a disjointed, it also crumbles upon contact from other attacks, thus acting as a frontal shield as well.
Really. I agree with Snider, we should start closing these types of threads. Relflex and Santi and the only two guys we know of as of now that is "professional" I've been fighting a few of these guys onthe boards and have come to the conclusion that I'm not the best and none of my opponents were the best but despite our few nubers we a some decently skilled players to take on the character of Pokemon Trainer and use him effectively. Its just, well you know guys, Relex and Santi beat us to the punch of mastering him. Otherwise I consider the people on these boards decent players.
Heck I know I lost all my ditto matches so I need to get better and hit PT hard with training once my Bombing spree with TL is over. Trust me I dont intend on giving up on PT I feel alot of potential in him.
Heck I know I lost all my ditto matches so I need to get better and hit PT hard with training once my Bombing spree with TL is over. Trust me I dont intend on giving up on PT I feel alot of potential in him.
infernovia
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Like what? That was a pretty solid showing of what charizard has against metaknight. All of the best tools were used, like Dtilt, Usmash kill, rocksmash, grabs. Maybe he should have thrown him a few times instead of trying grab releases, but it was a pretty solid match overall. Metaknight just ***** charizard in the air.
Edit: Or atleast I couldn't see a lot he could have improved. His rocksmash approaches were stabbing through the shield as much as he was getting punished for it.
Onxy
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Fsmash out of shield with Charizard = fail.
wow this really reminded me of my battles vs affinity.
squirtle does just as well or even BETTER than charizard does imo. but maybe part of that is just that my squirtle is better than my zard. :s
dojo is really good at shuttle gimping so that's kind of tough on zard. santi DID use rock smash a lot, but it gives mk problems so it's understandable. i use it frequently against mks, although definitely not as much.
the thing about rock smash is that it's very punishable by mach tornado or dash grabs if you toss the smash out and mk isn't in the vicinity so...i saw that a few times in both vids. it seems to me that santi's main strategy was to rock smash, and that's the wrong way to go about it because mk's insane quickness can punish you for a missed smash. meh. i'm probably wrong but that's what it seemed like.
flamethrower is pretty nice when mk is getting back on stage. just stay out of shuttle loop's range. santi didn't use it in that capacity. actually santi didn't use ft at all in the first match, and twice at the beginning of the second. both times he was punished and i didn't see ft for the rest of the match.
santi didn't too very well in the second vid.
if i get to go to hobo 11, i might get to meet santi and we can talk charizard and stuff lulz. i wish santi would pick up the other two. ivy is kinda meh but squirtle is a freakin demon who has a shot in almost any matchup, just due to his sheer quickness and unpredictability.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69BxAZSn7bQ&feature=related
i learned a bit about gimping with charizard, even if it was against craptain falcon.
squirtle does just as well or even BETTER than charizard does imo. but maybe part of that is just that my squirtle is better than my zard. :s
dojo is really good at shuttle gimping so that's kind of tough on zard. santi DID use rock smash a lot, but it gives mk problems so it's understandable. i use it frequently against mks, although definitely not as much.
the thing about rock smash is that it's very punishable by mach tornado or dash grabs if you toss the smash out and mk isn't in the vicinity so...i saw that a few times in both vids. it seems to me that santi's main strategy was to rock smash, and that's the wrong way to go about it because mk's insane quickness can punish you for a missed smash. meh. i'm probably wrong but that's what it seemed like.
flamethrower is pretty nice when mk is getting back on stage. just stay out of shuttle loop's range. santi didn't use it in that capacity. actually santi didn't use ft at all in the first match, and twice at the beginning of the second. both times he was punished and i didn't see ft for the rest of the match.
santi didn't too very well in the second vid.
if i get to go to hobo 11, i might get to meet santi and we can talk charizard and stuff lulz. i wish santi would pick up the other two. ivy is kinda meh but squirtle is a freakin demon who has a shot in almost any matchup, just due to his sheer quickness and unpredictability.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69BxAZSn7bQ&feature=related
i learned a bit about gimping with charizard, even if it was against craptain falcon.
Dojo
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Lol. Santi hasn't been playing PT alot seriously. Well from what I know. He might be hiding something from me. O.o
Although his squirtle has really stepped it up alot. It gives me more trouble than his zard does when he plays PT. He's been really focused on getting his TL top notch though.
Although his squirtle has really stepped it up alot. It gives me more trouble than his zard does when he plays PT. He's been really focused on getting his TL top notch though.
Natch
Smash Ace
His recovery game could use some improvement(though that could've been the Meta's gimping skills at work) and he needs more Flamethrower. That move has amazing spacing capabilities, and short hopped Flamethrowers-I mean just a short hop straight up-are great feints and often catch people in them.
I'm just being a critic though. That is a pretty good zard, I must say.
it's hard to play a good squirtle. you have to mix stuff up and constantly pressure and just be a SMART ninja turtle everywhere. pick your spots wisely and abuse abuse abuse openings.
about as well as i can describe it.
about as well as i can describe it.
Miles.
Smash Champion
Squirtle is all about pressuring them with his quickness, but I also think that running away and staying just outside of range is also part of his game.
Pick and choosing your opening and also frustrating your opponent.
Onxy
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There is a difference between being good with a character (playing him right) and just the character itself being good, lol. IDK, Squirtle seems okay - except he can't kill at all, which is a serious pain.
Miles.
Smash Champion
CANT KILL?
Looks at*
Down Throw,
Upsmash,
Fair,
Bair,
Dair,
Watergun,
and
He can ninja gimp.
Onxy
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NONE of those are reliable.
Bair can't kill a Jigglypuff 'till around 150% - it's not a kill move.
Watergun is a gimp move - not a kill move.
infernovia
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Yeah, I was surprised he got the kill.
@Natch: Its a lot easier to get around in brawl, but I really don't think santi had any more options except airdodge more. And Dojo can mindgame that.
Flamethrower is nice and all, but tornado clashes with it. I would probably only use it on the edge or start/end it really quick. As I said before, flamethrower is easy to SDI counter. But then again, rocksmash is pretty easy to perfect shield too...
Edit: I think my favorite kill move of squirtle is his dthrow. Saving up fair helps if you can do awesome utilt combos and juggles to refresh it and tack on damage.
dsmash has an awesome trajectory. it's a little laggy and pretty unsafe on block though.
dthrow is seriously squirtle's savior. he has a guaranteed kill at about 130%. and he is one of the best characters in the game at creating a grab opportunity.
some characters would kill to have a ko grab at 130%.
dthrow is seriously squirtle's savior. he has a guaranteed kill at about 130%. and he is one of the best characters in the game at creating a grab opportunity.
some characters would kill to have a ko grab at 130%.
Santi
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ78f1gUa5Q
^^^^
Grab your strings.
That will probably get everyone's Pokemon to atleast lvl 99.
^^^^
Grab your strings.
That will probably get everyone's Pokemon to atleast lvl 99.
Miles.
Smash Champion
Toby.
Smash Master
Yesssss.
That was probably the most useful post in the history of the PT boards. This beats hydroplaning hands down.