...what was that?

[teeman92]

so i was playing a friend ealier. he had C.falcon and i had...yours truly, falco. so i was losing 4-2 in a stock match on FD. i was shorthop lasering near the edge, at the right moment, he grabbed me and suddenly i shook him off me and i instanly fell off the ledge and 'died' i if i was hit by a spike or something.

and another strange glitch happend when i was comboing Falcon with Shine to dair rapidly and quick. he wasnet even in high percentage.for some reason i missed because Falcon shot high in the air for somereason and screwed me up

 

[Smoke and smash]

Perhaps he grabbed you, and then somehow got hit by the laser afterwards? I know if you shl, and then grab, and then the laser hits them after you grabbed, it releases them automatically.

The second situation is probably explained by your shine hit stun making him fly away. If you hit somebody with shine too many times in a combo it makes people fly away in this wierd fashion with wierd hitstun. Like, they can di ridiculously far when this happens.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

maybe you accidentally fast falled.

 

[Ocean]

theres a video of the first thing happening with fox and falcon on FoD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvtLZfBYVr4#

I'm not sure of the time stamp and I can't actually watch youtube videos right now, but I believe its somewhere in the middle.

 

[Smoke and smash]

Yea it's at 3:18. I can't explain that one.

 

[Ocean]

what I think happened is when the fox grabbed, it pushed both characters near the edge which made it auto-release the falcon, but since there was no ground to release him on, it sent him straight down instead.

just one of the really random physics things in video games.

 

[Tichinde925]

Right Here, I recorded this match personally myself. KoreanDJ footage!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s232AGgZ3aU

43 second mark!

 

[The Irish Mafia]

For the second one, either he has pro DI or you shined him while he was on the ground. For some reason they go flying in the neutral position when you hit them off the ground.

 

[Rubyiris]

Right Here, I recorded this match personally myself. KoreanDJ footage!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s232AGgZ3aU

43 second mark!

This is easy to explain.

When he tech rolled, he retained his forward momentum. This would normally cause him to roll off and grab the ledge, a common way to escape tech chasing. However, you grabbed him as he began to fall off the stage. This automatically broke the grab and he fell to his death, whilst still retaining that forward momentum.

When lasering, The hit box doesn't immediately connect with Fox. When a character is in a grab, and is hit by a projectile, both characters are sent flying far apart from one another. When near the edge, this often results in one of the characters being killed.

As for the shine scenario, when a character hits the ground, and is able to tech, and is hit by a move that they've already been hit by within a set amount of time, they enter the "Free fall" animation, whilst retaining the momentum of the attacks knock back. Falco's shine is notable for sending characters extremely high into the air.

The easiest way to reliably replicate this scenario is to repeatedly dash attack a character at mid percentage with fox/falco, or to perform the standard pillar-shine combo to about 50%. the last possible drill until Fox/Falco can jump out of it will cause them to land on the ground on their face/back, rather on their feet with hitstun. If you shine them after this, it will send them into the free fall animation.

Another easy way to replicate this is to crouch cancel Pikachu's down smash at mid percentage.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

the same thing happens if you try to grab fox/falco out of their sideb recovery. i believe its because the hitbox connects after the grab, breaking it up, and there is lag in there that prevents you from recovering if you have no jump.