What to do at lower percentages?

[styleREMIX]

A really big trouble I have at playing smash is doing damage at lower percentages. Against especially marths and samuses, I have a lot of trouble doing a lot of damage to them without them doing a lot of damage to me at low levels. The people who I play with like to crouch cancel a lot into a down smash or something of the sort. So when I go to attack, they usually get me for twice as much damage as I did to them. What should I be doing when we're in low damage %'s? I would really appreciate help especially versus Samus, Marth, and Falco. They all have great dsmashes/dtilts, which usually get me to a pretty high %.

 

[Ixninjax]

you should just dash-dance around and grab them.

 

[Psychoace]

spam lazers.

 

[abit_rusty]

grab and throw or waveshine...

 

[Mcscruff]

Since they like to crouch cancel a lot, you could just drillshine to upsmash or grab. You could also use nair to waveshine upsmash or grab. Since they're crouch canceling, they will go a shorter distance after the shine, which will make it even easier to do waveshine combos. Also camp with dashdance and lasers.

 

[technomancer]

Low percents against CCers are gay. I like to drillshine, and just JC into a double laser and then DD and see if they don't give me more hits, but that's cuz I fail at running after them and grabbing.

 

[takieddine]

against a non-ccing marth, sh nair to reverse or regular utilt sets up great for combos. or uthrow bair into reverse utilt.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

waveshine+grab+spam

 

[GOTM]

yea, a lot of what people are saying is right.

chaingrab falco though definitly.
against samus, spam lasers and look for a chance for a grab, then uair
do the same vs. marth

dont forget shine-smash, and shine-grab on all of them except falco, but thunders combo works well on falco

 

[Shai Hulud]

yea, a lot of what people are saying is right.

chaingrab falco though definitly.
against samus, spam lasers and look for a chance for a grab, then uair
do the same vs. marth

dont forget shine-smash, and shine-grab on all of them except falco, but thunders combo works well on falco

You can't uthrow uair Samus unless the Samus sucks.

 

[takieddine]

You can't uthrow uair Samus unless the Samus sucks.

I disagree if you play it smart you can still manage to uair the samus, I.E. wait for them to bomb, or second jump...

 

[GOTM]

I disagree if you play it smart you can still manage to uair the samus, I.E. wait for them to bomb, or second jump...

exactly, they cant stall all day. obviously most are going to see it coming, or know whats coming, and DI like crazy, or try and bomb, etc. but you can definitely wait for the right time and still do it.

 

[Brookman]

drill shine up smash, drill shine grab. drill grab, nair shine to whatever, nair up smash, back air to grab, back air to back air camping. lasers are great.

 

[Smash G 0 D]

Just be really cheap w/ shines, lasers, nairs, uthrows, and uairs..

 

[KILLA.FOR.CASH.]

spam lasers, go for grab to uthrows, shine them so they cant CC... force them into the air and use bairs and stuff to rack up enough damage so they cant crouch cancel you..

 

[Giggidax]

fullhop triple laser them whenever they jump

drillshine > grab

thunders combos

drillshine > upsmash

those are all good ideas for getting a little damage on opponents at lower percents

 

[Silent Wolf]

Backwards toss, then reflector.

 

[Brookman]

Backwards toss, then reflector.

Quoted for Great Justice.

 

[Flarefox]

Master uthrow->upair juggles to Marth. On FD, you can get 50%ish off of drill->waveshine->uthrow->uair->uair->uair. He can't crouch cancel this. On platform levels, you can upthrow from 0% and KO him over the top if you read his DI right and land on platforms to bring yourself closer to his fall.

Samus crouch cancels a lot because it makes up for her lack of speed (she's really heavy too, which makes it really effective). She can't crouch cancel grabs, and crouch cancelling shines will only make it easier for you to combo with shine. Put a lot of pressure on her with shine.