What is our safest way to retreat the majority of the time?

[Ingulit]

Like the thread title says, what is Diddy's best way to retreat when you simply need to GTFO? Obviously it differs depending on a lot of things, but I'm just interested in a general "this is a good idea for retreating" strat. Characters like Wolf and Marth have retreating F-Air; characters like Lucario can simply Back Roll away; then there are some characters like Ganon who can't do much except SHAD (hell, it's one of his only approaches for that matter). What can Diddy do? Dribble away? Retreating F-Air/B-Air? SHAD? Simply Roll away?

 

[DFEAR]

i sometimes dribble but simply running/dashing away is always better...love me that greatest distance between my opponent and i.

 

[Kaptain Kong]

i like to mfkc away then jump and naner pluck depending on how close they are

 

[Grizzer]

i like to mfkc away then jump and naner pluck depending on how close they are

if you are close enough for them to actually hit you off the bat, then its not safe, and if they are out of range you can just turn around and jump O.o

 

[Kaptain Kong]

well if they chase you, you can just aerial or buffer a run out of mfkc

 

[sai_:)]

Well b-dacus would be an awesome retreat (if i could consistently do it ) But jump away, double jump, monkey flip near the ground and then magical third jump is always a fun way to get across the stage too. and if people dont know about diddy's 3rd jump thing i guess it could in a way serve as a decent mixup

 

[TreK]

I usually just dash away, but this is the reason I'm learning bdacus atm.

 

[Cubone]

Are you talking about getting away in order to pull bananas or just for a quick breather? If you have a banana in hand and you just want a break rolling away isn't too bad, people tend to throw up the shield expecting you to toss the banana.

Just dashing works if you just need space.

 

[nvm]

fair\bair OoS to monkey flip?

 

[SaveMeJebus]

This is one of the reasons that I love Bair so much. It is a great move for retreating because it is fast, has a great hitbox and can be done twice out of a shorthop. There is also a cool little trick you can do with retreating Bair. I there is a banana next to you and it's too far for you to grab it with a rising Bair, you can buffer a Dair after the Bair and catch it while you are fastfalling. then you can buffer anything out of the Dair because is is lagless.

 

[Kaptain Kong]

or you can instant throw it for tricksies

 

[-Joannett88-]

Roll + run. Srsly.

It depends obviosuly on who is your foe. But i usually dribble downwards and run spacing bairs.

 

[ADHD]

Up B charge.

 

[Conti]

^^^Lmao

Run... its diddy's quickest option... [other than bdcaus which is inconsitent]. Rolling is slow... dribbleing is alright but I feel u can develop bad habits like AP ... side b can be viable maybe... I prefer to run

 

[Player-1]

backward glidetoss up, shooting more peanuts, retreating bairs, rolling backwards, shooting more peanuts, do a fully charged peanut so you slide backwards, shooting more peanuts, monkey flip, shooting more peanuts, shooting more peanuts.

 

[-Joannett88-]

backward glidetoss up, shooting more peanuts, retreating bairs, rolling backwards, shooting more peanuts, do a fully charged peanut so you slide backwards, shooting more peanuts, monkey flip, shooting more peanuts, shooting more peanuts.

You've forgotten shooting more peanuts.

 

[redrighthand]

You've forgotten shooting more peanuts.

I just forget about all the moving away crap and just shoot peanuts ^^

 

[FelixTrix]

Just charge up b and yell "TO THE STARS!!!"

 

[redrighthand]

Just charge and up b and yell "TO THE STARS!!!"

I'll try it in at the next tournament


One of my personal favourites is to dash away and wall-cling to one of the undersides of FD; drop my controller, stand up and proceed to beckon my oppenent to attack in a Matrix-esque fashion.

 

[ChocoNaner]

Monkey flop. :B

 

[MBlaze]

Pivot jump glide toss? Or w/e the hell it's called. If I'm not explaining it right you do it by just running in one direction and pressing jump then the opposite way that you're running on the c stick so diddy just turns around and throws the banana while keep moving in the general direction he was running for a lil bit.

Dunno if it's even a safe way, just something that crossed my mind.

 

[redrighthand]

Pivot jump glide toss? Or w/e the hell it's called. If I'm not explaining it right you do it by just running in one direction and pressing jump then the opposite way that you're running on the c stick so diddy just turns around and throws the banana while keep moving in the general direction he was running for a lil bit.

Dunno if it's even a safe way, just something that crossed my mind.

Sounds a bit like Auto RAR/RARing away from the target.

 

[Ingulit]

You could just do a backwards Glide Toss too, but I imagine it'd take a fraction of a second longer. Still, it wouldn't require you to **** up your controls or claw in order to do something almost functionally the same as Glide Tossing.

Unless I'm missing something about how it works, perhaps? I mean, it's a good idea.

 

[Kaptain Kong]

naw, you just hit up then cstick or down then cstick

it's in the kongpendium i think: JC glide toss

 

[Ingulit]

I know what it is, but I don't use Tap Jump... ergo doing a reverse JC Glide Toss is hard.

 

[Kaptain Kong]

just use down -> cstick then

 

[happytif]

What about glide tossing backwards and throwing the banana up, them you would give your opponent something to think about while you banana pluck/shoot more peanuts xD