What is better: SHL or SHDL?

[ynnek123]

Yeah, which ones is better? I would think the double laser is better but most of the time I see people just doing a single laser. Is it faster or something? Please give your opinion and arguments

 

[CY]

Yeah, which ones is better? I would think the double laser is better but most of the time I see people just doing a single laser. Is it faster or something? Please give your opinion and arguments

it just all depends on the situation.

 

[ynnek123]

it just all depends on the situation.

wow. Inspiring words! now I understand everything! thanks man, you changed my vision on this game, and even the world entirely!!!! ZOMG

 

[J4pu]

If you SHDL all the time and they are standing on the ground, as soon as they see the first laser shoot over their head, they know a second is coming so they have an easier time shielding it. Doing a retreating SH (so that Falco backflips) and shooting a single laser before you land is the way to get the most possible ground level lasers out while also retreating at the same time. SHDL is obviously used to get them when in the air or on platforms. And that just about covers my reasons for using both.

[you can do a retreating SHDL just as fast i would think but it becomes more difficult since your input would be: SH > tap backwards(for the retreating backflip) > tap forwards (so you dont do a reversal on your lasers) > laser, laser ; repeat. While the retreating SHL input is: SH > tap backwards (for retreating backflip) > Laser. Not so much flipping the control stick back and forth]

Mainly SHL are more likely to hit when you often do SHDL because they don't expect it as much.

 

[bulgarian_kid]

imo, SHDL when you're further away. It doesn't matter that the second laser is predictable in that secnario because they'll see one laser coming just as much anyway over a distance. Retreating I also prefer this because it keeps them from jumping after you effectively.

but when you get in close it's better to SHL, imo, because it doesn't give them a chance to expect a second laser and get prepared to punish it, so it's safer. Basically I use it for close approaches.

 

[BsdKid4ever]

I use both SHL and SHDL according to the circumstances at hand.

Use SHL if...
1. You're retreating.
2. Your opponent has a reflector.*
3. You suck at doing SHDL.

Use SHDL if...
1. You're retreating and you can do it as effectively as SHL.
2. You're approaching an opponent without a reflector.
3. You want to keep pressure on the opponent/stall.

*: If you do good SHLs (silent or close to silent) on an opponent with a reflector you will jump over your reflected laser as you do the next SHL. Doing this with SHDLs will result in the first laser hitting you, stunning you just so you're hit by the second one.

If the choice doesnt really matter, don't do the same ones over and over again, mix it up!

 

[AvoiD]

Depends on situationg

I find SHL more effective, but end up using SHDL more. >_>

 

[Korpocalypse]

in the match, when far away, I like to do a shl, a shl, and then a shdl. so it's like they're getting hit, then they try to jump usually and just get hit even more.

 

[0Room]

I prefer DL.
Just because Double Laser gives two chances to hit XD.

But in all seriousness.
DL fits more situations than Single Laser does.

 

[OverLade]

Depending on what character my opponent is.

SHDL limits your opponents options to approach, since they can't approach from the air. This is great against Metaknight/Kirby since they find themselves in the air a lot....they're gonna eat laser. I find SHL better for more conservative situations, like close range against snake. You can space before you cancel the laser but still follow up with something nasty...like a DAC to the FACE.

 

[Shred_kid]

I would also use SHL for characters with a weak air game who mostly approach on the ground

 

[ynnek123]

Depending on what character my opponent is.

SHDL limits your opponents options to approach, since they can't approach from the air. This is great against Metaknight/Kirby since they find themselves in the air a lot....they're gonna eat laser. I find SHL better for more conservative situations, like close range against snake. You can space before you cancel the laser but still follow up with something nasty...like a DAC to the FACE.

isn't a shl to buffered dash to immediate dac a bit hard O_o xD

 

[OverLade]

isn't a shl to buffered dash to immediate dac a bit hard O_o xD

Not as hard as you would think. I can even do it online pretty easily. And it hella scares the crap out of people when they get hit with a laser and suddenly Falco is 10 feet closer with his boots in their face. :D

 

[Emblem Lord]

Usually oyu might as well just SHDL since the timing for the SHL is the same as if you just did two lasers anyway. You would have to SH then wait till you start to fall a bit then hit B for a single laser. So the timing of the a SHL is the same as the timing for the second laser in SHDL.

You would SHL when you are closer since after doing the first laser your opponent knows a second one is coming. So by opting to do a SHL you can keep your opponent guessing when you SH and then mix-up with aerial phantasms, Nairs, and FF dairs. If they shield the laser you can roll, spotdodge, jab mix-ups, grab, or do an f-tilt.