Ghidorah14
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>loses to Bayonetta
>switches to ness/lucas game 2
>taunts if they take a stock/win
CAN YOU NOT?
>switches to ness/lucas game 2
>taunts if they take a stock/win
CAN YOU NOT?
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That's the kind of Cloud I am. I charge Limit briefly in the neutral before trying to space with nair, bair, etc.To be honest, Cloud wouldn't be so annoying to fight on For Glory (at least to me) if they didn't rely on Limit Charge so much.
I wouldn't mind if they charge it a little at the start of the match, did some attacks and good combos, and when I'm off stage charge; however half the time I am actively chasing them down because all they want to do is roll/shield/run/whatever it takes to charge it fully before they actually start fighting. Even after they have it fully charged they roll around like a Little Mac would with KO Punch.
It grew so tiresome I eventually started just letting Clouds Limit Charge if it meant getting rid of the whole "Chase me" process of it all. It might be a dumb move and whether I win or lose I continue to do it. If it means getting a tiresome match done faster then thats fine.
I can respect a Cloud that uses Limit Charge very little and actually... Ya know, fights and combos though.
Cloud still makes me salty, but they get respect for simply not being annoying with him.
Aside from the whole Cloud subject I actually find myself getting annoyed when I see players who only use Top Tiers. I'm mainly referring to the ones who clearly have no idea what they're doing with them and switch to a different Top Tier every match like it'll make a difference. Maybe they could be experimenting and seeing which Top Tier works for them, I don't know. But it really seems to give me a sense of frustration to see that. It doesn't happen very often though so I guess I can live with it, but still... Why exactly?
Just cause they're Top Tier doesn't make them a perfect key to winning. They also ya know... Require skill like everyone else.
What's so bothersome about Ness or Lucas specifically?>loses to Bayonetta
>switches to ness/lucas game 2
>taunts if they take a stock/win
CAN YOU NOT?
They're the go-to counterpick against bayo.What's so bothersome about Ness or Lucas specifically?
That, and in Ness' case, people like Omni are livid at him. Some say it's his down throw to forward aerial combo (which I don't think I can pull off as easily); while others say in that Ness despite his recovery issues has a ton of well-rounded tools and kills quite early as well, which makes him a pain to fight since he can technically kill you faster than the other well-rounded types (mainlyThey're the go-to counterpick against bayo.
I'm not too annoyed by Ness's D-Throw to F-Air combo or his PK Fire. Yes, they're still annoying, but I can manage them. What I still really hate is his B-Throw. Seriously, if Ness didn't have that, he'd be mid tier at best.That, and in Ness' case, people like Omni are livid at him. Some say it's his down throw to forward aerial combo (which I don't think I can pull off as easily); while others say in that Ness despite his recovery issues has a ton of well-rounded tools and kills quite early as well, which makes him a pain to fight since he can technically kill you faster than the other well-rounded types (mainlyand
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lol I forgot about that thing XDI'm not too annoyed by Ness's D-Throw to F-Air combo or his PK Fire. Yes, they're still annoying, but I can manage them. What I still really hate is his B-Throw. Seriously, if Ness didn't have that, he'd be mid tier at best.
I agree with Lucas's PK Fire being more annoying than Ness's. Part of me feels that since Ness was there since the very beginning, we've been able to adapt more to his PK Fire than Lucas's. I also feel that it has to due with Lucas's style. Lucas has far stronger zoning ability compared to Ness, with his PK Fire being used more as a "get back" option rather than a combo starter and his Z-Air can be used to poke at you. If you can keep Ness out, he's not going to get in. With Lucas, it's a matter of who can get in, and he can keep you out with his decent zoning game. Lucas does have two kill throws, but they don't compare to Ness's. Having two pretty decent kill throws doesn't make up for another character that has a guaranteed kill confirm at certain percents. You can spend the whole game winning against a Ness, but they can clutch it out and can kill you below 100% with rage. That really demotivates me at times, and makes me hate Ness players when I should hate the character and not the player.Even though I play Ness myself, I tend to counterpick Villager against Bayo instead of Ness. Since Witch Time is something that I really want to stay out of, playing a projectile-heavy character makes me feel more comfortable since I don't have to worry about getting caught in Witch Time while camping/applying pressure.
Also, Ness' B-throw is definitely the most annoying tool in his arsenal, likeMega-Spider just said. "Remember, young Johnny, make sure Ness doesn't grab you, or you'll end up dying at 80%!"
When it comes to PK Fire spam, however, Lucas is far worse than Ness IMO.
I'm a Kirby main. He's not that great, but he's not nearly as bad as some of the Kirby players will tell you he is.Like most Ness mains, I have a love-hate relationship with Ness's backthrow. Some ditto's/matches I had with Ness players were pretty scary since if both of us were at kill percent, we played it safe, but all it takes is one grab or quick smash attack in order to win.
But seeing as most of the Ness's I've fought usually don't end up killing me with the back-throw (DI and stuff) I think I'm good.
As for something new in my disliking in For Glory, nowadays it's Kirby players. A simple case of a character that not alot of people consider great (I may be wrong about that.) but extremely annoying to fight.
I would assume that most FG Kirbies are more casual players who aren't out to insult you but still use gimmicky, somewhat annoying tactics such as frequently using Stone and/or Inhale; more experienced players will try to go for Kirbycides, etc.Like most Ness mains, I have a love-hate relationship with Ness's backthrow. Some ditto's/matches I had with Ness players were pretty scary since if both of us were at kill percent, we played it safe, but all it takes is one grab or quick smash attack in order to win.
But seeing as most of the Ness's I've fought usually don't end up killing me with the back-throw (DI and stuff) I think I'm good.
As for something new in my disliking in For Glory, nowadays it's Kirby players. A simple case of a character that not alot of people consider great (I may be wrong about that.) but extremely annoying to fight.
lol, most of them I assume are Ganondorf mains that waste time trying to disrespect players like me online while also inducing enough salt to make someone either stop playing the game for good or to call them a pathetic excuse in life while spamming the "git gud" meme non-stop.On the few occasions I've played on For Glory, I dislike players who play bottom tiers who then counterpick cloud or the next top tier everyone pockets.
Also, try doing Dedede Jet Hammer only. Moving, defensive options, and recovery are still allowed but only attack with Jet Hammer.
Then they switch to Ganondorf just to "disrespect" you lol : PWhy are so many cloud players on FG huge ********? Like, you're playing baby's first swordsman, have a piece of humble pie and cool it.
I beat some cloud player with bayonetta, and they accused me of being a coward (haha wut). Yeah, pardon me for not running right into your massive tree trunk of a sword. Never bring a sword to a gunfight, and all that.
I alternated between mewtwo and bayo, and each match came down to lost stock, last hit. So of course, they taunted ruthlessly, usually when they thought I died, but lived. And the ones they won, well, you know the drill.
"trash"
"lolbodied"
"its-so-sad"
"pathetic"
"coward"
I reminded them that they were only barely winning, but obviously if they acknowledged that, they wouldnt be the badass scrubkiller they seem to think they are.
I even said "lol" and "GG" when they legitimately outplayed me, but again, these kinds of players have no shame.
Cloud players, man. If its not the character, it's the people who play him and think they're amazing.
Then they switch to Ganondorf just to "disrespect" you lol : P
lol, that's usually whenever they start crushing me for some reason (which is most of the time); other than that this comment is pretty accurate lol: Aaaaagh, why can't I get a single spike?
: *rekts the ganon*
: F**k this sh*t I'm out
Ya know, I enjoy it when people do switch to Ganondorf.Then they switch to Ganondorf just to "disrespect" you lol : P
Don't be reactive. It's going to make you look like not just an FG tryhard, scrub, etc. but also as a hypocrite.Here's a new one that happened last night. I was playing Cloud and fighting someone who was playing Mario. I lost my first stock easily the first match due to buffering but eventually I won.
Next match he switches to Meta Knight and I too also lose my first stock early. The match has a couple hiccups of lag, but most of them were working in my opponents favor, and eventually he tries to up smash me as I get up the ledge, only for me to kill him with a 140% rage down-smash.
At the CSS he blames the lag on his loss, and he tells me that I suck afterwards. At that I quipped; "ULOST" and then he left.
Oh, man. Rosalina hate is everywhere, trust me. I'm not fond of Rosa myself, but I know for certain that her overly negative reputation extends far beyond Intro's fanbase.So idk if it's still going on, or if there's a new one, but the last time I went on fg was first week of september. I go look at what the new conquest is. Rosaluma and Olimar. I have extreme personal bias against Olimar, so I decide to try out Rosaluma, even though I know it won't go well.
Turns out 3ds fg is literally made of IntroSpektive fans, because the person I'm playing with leaves after one match. Then that happens again about 5 more times, 1 match, then they leave, new person, cycle starts over again. Like, I know I'm horrible with her and can't play her, but do you hate her so much you'll leave after one game?
I haven't spoken to many Rosa players, but the few that I did speak to acted so spoiled, like spoiled rich kids levels. I know that Rosa's a really good character and she has a grip on the majority of the cast, but you don't beat everyone and you shouldn't act so high and mighty.Oh, man. Rosalina hate is everywhere, trust me. I'm not fond of Rosa myself, but I know for certain that her overly negative reputation extends far beyond Intro's fanbase.
Well, that's a bit of relief, but also kinda sad for rosaluma.Oh, man. Rosalina hate is everywhere, trust me. I'm not fond of Rosa myself, but I know for certain that her overly negative reputation extends far beyond Intro's fanbase.
Welp, guess I'm going to have to be wary if I attend higher SoCal tourneys in the future. I really hope that's just the low level player description and not the personality of a good player like Falln.I haven't spoken to many Rosa players, but the few that I did speak to acted so spoiled, like spoiled rich kids levels. I know that Rosa's a really good character and she has a grip on the majority of the cast, but you don't beat everyone and you shouldn't act so high and mighty.
Sadly for me, my skill level is still hampered by a quite a few things, so most of those Ganondorfs easily **** up my every mistake : P It's a pain to try to fight against them when you're losing already and then of course, under sweaty-controller pressure trying to make sure they don't land a hard hit on you.Ya know, I enjoy it when people do switch to Ganondorf.
A lot of times when someone switches to Ganondorf it's very obvious on what they want to do, and is also obvious they have absolutely no idea how to even use him. They just want to style and disrespect, but actually end up getting two stocked in the end because I simply wasn't born yesterday. You can really tell who mains Ganondorf on For Glory and who just wants to use him for "Lulz, disrespect. Totes goin on YouTube lol you noob". I wonder if For Glorians will ever learn that trying so hard to disrespect will always end badly for them?
This is why the next Smash Bros game needs a ranking system. I'd rather fight someone of equal rank than some troll who wants to prove how bad you are at the game. Also, it would be great to see what character I'm up against. I really hate not knowing ahead of time.lol
Just ran into ANOTHER player who switched to Ganondorf after I lost many times to him (and guess what? Not only was I trying to recover from a loss against a damn Yoshi/Ness main as my horrible low-tier man Falco, he was even using Little Mac for the first few times and kept winning).
And now he's just spamming other non-top tier heavy hitters.
This game is a waste of time if all I'm doing is to play to lose and have people mock me in many different indirect ways in the style of LeafyIsHere (**** that guy)
I don't even know anymore about this bull**** mode. It just seems like everyone's an ***hole who just wants to switch to the "disrespecters" for the montages as soon as they prove you're horrible at the game.
Time to switch to Wario and spam his down b, side b (so I can eat it up in a random corner) and my side b "where the **** is mai bike" animation lol; yup, I'm degrading into a depressed troll thanks to this.
It's sadly what For Glory has evolved to but I wouldn't quite say it's a waste a time. Mentally draining and stress inducing, but not that.This game is a waste of time if all I'm doing is to play to lose and have people mock me in many different indirect ways in the style of LeafyIsHere (**** that guy)
I don't even know anymore about this bull**** mode. It just seems like everyone's an ***hole who just wants to switch to the "disrespecters" for the montages as soon as they prove you're horrible at the game.
Nah, because then For Glorians would call you "Cheap" and use the excuse of "You counter picked me, so of COURSE you'd win!"Also, it would be great to see what character I'm up against. I really hate not knowing ahead of time.
Agreed. I'd really appreciate having a new online mode with the convienience of FG and the REAL competitiveness of Anther's. FG in Japan is the only place where everyone's friendly and what not, since the community's helpful to each other (prize money is illegal, so they're not hypercompetitive like us Westerners) and the Internet has zero lag.This is why the next Smash Bros game needs a ranking system. I'd rather fight someone of equal rank than some troll who wants to prove how bad you are at the game. Also, it would be great to see what character I'm up against. I really hate not knowing ahead of time.
Up-tilt-up-tilt-up-tilt-up-tilt-up-tilt-up-tilt-up-tilt-up-smashjcx
The American scene irritates me sometimes. Yes, it is a lot more exciting sometimes, and the hype moments really are some of the greatest moments in tournaments, but what I can't stand is the vitriolic nature of some people. I find the attitudes in the American community to be a lot more toxic than the Japanese community. People will berate for using certain characters, whether they'd be top or low tier, and more often than not, people will suddenly switch to top tier characters because they're "easy" or that "they can win me a tournament." I know Smash isn't exactly a game about integrity, but find that to be lazy. This game really does reward laziness sometimes, especially with characters like Mario.
More like berate people in general for even picking up any competitive game, but that's just my saltiness speaking on my behalf loljcx
The American scene irritates me sometimes. Yes, it is a lot more exciting sometimes, and the hype moments really are some of the greatest moments in tournaments, but what I can't stand is the vitriolic nature of some people. I find the attitudes in the American community to be a lot more toxic than the Japanese community. People will berate for using certain characters, whether they'd be top or low tier, and more often than not, people will suddenly switch to top tier characters because they're "easy" or that "they can win me a tournament." I know Smash isn't exactly a game about integrity, but find that to be lazy. This game really does reward laziness sometimes, especially with characters like Mario.