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What do YOU say when people tell you Sheik is by far the most easy to play as???

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REDRAGON

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I don't understand. Discission in here seems to be going "If you're good, then x character is easy to play with, regardless of how much time and effort has been put into mastering their techniques. In all honesty, I believe Sheik is the easiest character to play. Whether you know how to play against sheik isn't a factor becasue same can be said for any character.

Of course, Sheik isn't easy to play, rather the easiest to play. There has to be one character and if it isn't Sheik, then who is it? Pikachu? Yoshi?
100% true.
The topic i created says "Sheik is by far the most easy to play as"
I did not say easy, i said the MOST easy!!!
 

Zankoku

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You might want to read the beginning of Plank's post, again.

Sheik is the easiest to win at any level, that's why she wins so many major tournaments, right? No wait, those are the fox and marth players.
 

REDRAGON

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Fox, Falco and Marth are better then Sheik. Plus Sheik has been around forever. I mean Sheik was used so much that people know how to fight her.
 

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Okay, this is getting dizzying. You're arguing in circles, and I don't think you even realize it.
 

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everyone in this thread probably isn't at the same level, ex reddragon your probably a noob who thinks he's not, but really is compared to the respected players plank m2k and drephen.


it doesn't truthfully matter because people are so closeminded in the world it seems that its basically worthless to try and prove a point, thats why you don't see the experienced folks starting threads like this that annoy some people but attract others for what reasons idk.

my point is stop wasting your time by posting your opinion, and it really should go to everyone else also, like drephen said at the pro level people pick there character and play, they don't whine about a person playing sheik when you play marth. your opinion should matter only to you, not to others if they agree well then cool but if not o well, its not important move on.
 

REDRAGON

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everyone in this thread probably isn't at the same level, ex reddragon your probably a noob who thinks he's not, but really is compared to the respected players plank m2k and drephen.


it doesn't truthfully matter because people are so closeminded in the world it seems that its basically worthless to try and prove a point, thats why you don't see the experienced folks starting threads like this that annoy some people but attract others for what reasons idk.

my point is stop wasting your time by posting your opinion, and it really should go to everyone else also, like drephen said at the pro level people pick there character and play, they don't whine about a person playing sheik when you play marth. your opinion should matter only to you, not to others if they agree well then cool but if not o well, its not important move on.
You are right. I am probably a n00b who cant l-cancel, and barely wavedash(if i am lucky)
 

thebluedeath1000

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Stop the violence and agruing everyone, lets all just get along!

Sheik has her ups and downs..Its funny how the title of this topic has really been altered to this.
 

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reddragon with every post u are proveing that u have no idea about ssbm, so plz stfu, its better for urself
 

Triknives

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Sadly, I fell in to the trap of reading this thread my self.... Essentially he just started the thread to upset people, and try to make some people actually believe she is the easiet to win with at higher levels... As the other very experienced players said, her moves can be very difficult to use at times.

And since when was Samus a tough character? Work on your mind games etc.. a couple recovery tactics and missiles.. and bam you have a samus. Ofcourse she takes time to refine as ALL characters do...

And I love how you are trying to use "Facts" Reddragon where you lack them the most. People say " Look at how often a shiek wins a tourney", you just say,
right people, show me facts!". Um, well champ we are, you just don't feel like acknowledging them, though its not like a troll ever does...

And ya we are telling you that you are a noob, based off your anti-logic. I don't feel we need to add any more justifications to our argument as to whether or not shiek is easy to win tourneys with because we have given more than an ample amount for you to look up and possibly acknowledge...

We should probly all just ignore this thread from here on out, becuase he himself barely responds. And when he does its just, "o I am a noob huh!" and well ya we know you are and you apparenlty know that too. And I would be **** shocked if you actually responded to my post in more than one area, which we all know you are just doing to say " o you think I am a noob" and then you'll probly say some profound line that doesnt even relate to the topic. well, here is your chance champ.... Enlighten me, or better yet enlighten your self alittle...Chief...
 

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Triknives, don't get yourself involved, you speak well but you joined in December and have one post, don't get involved, listen to me on this.

Infact, everyone just stop agruing, a fight over the internet isn't going to be won so leave it alone and stick to useful discussion.
 

REDRAGON

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reddragon with every post u are proveing that u have no idea about ssbm, so plz stfu, its better for urself
Actually i know a fair amount about ssbm. I created this topic because i really did wonder what people said when people told them they played the most easy character. I used to play Sheik and my friend always complained about it.
Imo Sheik is the most easy, that my opinion.
But a moderator can close this thread, its way off topic anyway :ohwell:
 

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Triknives, don't get yourself involved, you speak well but you joined in December and have one post, don't get involved, listen to me on this.

Infact, everyone just stop agruing, a fight over the internet isn't going to be won so leave it alone and stick to useful discussion.
so what if he has one post? Just because u dont have the title "smash lord" doesn't mean you don't know anythign about the game,
 

REDRAGON

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so what if he has one post? Just because u dont have the title "smash lord" doesn't mean you don't know anythign about the game,
He is not saying if you have one post you are an idiot, he is just trying to stop the arguments....
Gosh, just close this thread already!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Plairnkk

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so what if he has one post? Just because u dont have the title "smash lord" doesn't mean you don't know anythign about the game,
in the same sense u can have 277 (at the time of me posting this) posts and have NO idea what you're talking about. =D
 

REDRAGON

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in the same sense u can have 277 (at the time of me posting this) posts and have NO idea what you're talking about. =D
Uh my friend, Bolt posted that, and he has 52 posts.
This is Redragon here and I have 278 now.....
Have no idea what you are talking about :confused:
 

Plairnkk

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i kinda feel bad making fun of u cuz there is a 99% chance that u have some sort of mental ***********.

so ill just stop now
 

Bullet Bill

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The simple **** with Sheik is easy, but her dash dance is more complicated and her short hop has to be done faster than Fox. And besides, the newb sheiks are the easiest people I ever have to face. I was supposed to play you at Nexus Redragon in low tier, but you weren't there.. Who's your low tier? My y.link did pretty well heh.
perhaps, but you will get to a level where Sheik will not be enough and you, the person behind the controller, will have to get some mindgames.
I think it's harsh on all of the good Sheik players when someone says that. It's not like they just started playing the game, picked sheik, and won tournaments :ohwell:
 

darE::to::Dream

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perhaps, but you will get to a level where Sheik will not be enough and you, the person behind the controller, will have to get some mindgames.
I think it's harsh on all of the good Sheik players when someone says that. It's not like they just started playing the game, picked sheik, and won tournaments :ohwell:
Why did you quote $ick when saying that? o_O

He's talking about how easy it was for him to win AGAINST noob Sheiks.
 

Arabi

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People who Shiek is easy are haters

As far as easy characters go, I would have to say both Marth and Falco are the easiest top tier characters for noobs to play with. Both characters can spam the forward smash, and against noob players, that tactic works just fine. I would say its a lot easier to connect Marth or Falco's forward smash than it is to connect Shiek's F-air.

While I agree that it might be easy to develop an advanced Shiek quickly, I think that at tournament levels of play, mastering Shiek becomes difficult. Shiek's short hop and fast fall are deceptively tricky. Along with Shino stall, reverse needles, and needle grabs, a really good Shiek needs really good mindgames. Spacing is everything with Shiek. I would argue that Shiek has her own set of challenges in tournament play, and that it would be silly to argue that she is the easiest character to play.
 
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