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Read the definition of proof. The Bible does not PROVE anything.Once again I say, READ THE BIBLE.
Have you read the Bible?Read the definition of proof. The Bible does not PROVE anything.
No. My whole family other than me has and I know most of what it says anyway. Regardless a book is not solid evidence of the Christian god.Have you read the Bible?
How can try to disprove that it doesn't have truth unless you read it?No. My whole family other than me has and I know most of what it says anyway. Regardless a book is not solid evidence of the Christian god.
Even if I did read a chemistry book that doesn't mean everything in the book is true. New facts are discovered all the time.How can try to disprove that it doesn't have truth unless you read it?
It is like me saying that a chemistry book is wrong about chemistry without looking at it first.
The Bible is just one of many religious texts, not even the first. Have you read all of those too? If reading is enough, then I guess upon doing so those become true as well somehow?Have you read the Bible?
What is the purpose of this question?Plus, if there is no god, then what is the purpose of the human race?
To make you think.The Bible is just one of many religious texts, not even the first. Have you read all of those too? If reading is enough, then I guess upon doing so those become true as well somehow?
What is the purpose of this question?
The Bible is just one of many religious texts, not even the first. Have you read all of those too? If reading is enough, then I guess upon doing so those become true as well somehow?
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I Have not but I know they are false because in the book of Exodus, chapter20, verses3-6(witch is in the Bible)
3“You shall have no other gods beforeme.
4“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lordyour God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
For those of you who don't believe in God, then I ask you this.
If God doesn't exist, then what is the point of the humanity race?
I'm thinking you didn't look up the definition of proof. I'm also thinking you didn't read the forum rules since you keep double posting.To make you think.
Tell me, what is the purpose of thinking?To make you think.
The book denying opposing texts only makes it true if you're already assuming whatever it says it is true to begin with (the text is true because the text is true), it is circular reasoning. And you are incredibly wrong if you think YWHW is the only, let alone the first, jealous deity written about (in fact it's a pretty unoriginal theme within them). The same insufficient logic, even if granted, would still be contradictory because it'd have to be granted to them all.I Have not but I know they are false because in the book of Exodus, chapter20, verses3-6(witch is in the Bible)
3“You shall have no other gods beforeme.
4“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lordyour God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Get to the point already. The Big Bang Theory doesn't prove nor disprove the existence of god.Who here believes in the Big Bang theory?
I kinda get what you are saying but that isn't necessarily true. For all we know physics could work simply because that is how the world around us works. It isn't proof really.There is no solid evidence of God and it depends on faith of perspective.
It is a very large coincidence that the world works the way it does. That the first single cell organisms appeared and later evolved into other creatures.
There is not much evidence that the Big Bang Theory exists, though it is generally accepted by scientists.
But could God cause the Big Bang to happen? The Big Bang wasn't a discord explosion after all. The Big Bang theory doesn't automatically debunk the existence of God.
Humans don't have hard evidence for the existence of God that would make even atheists believe in God. However, the reason physics exist would be the work of God.
But how and why does it work that way? How is it that it all these physics interact with each other in such an orderly way that allows balance in this world?I kinda get what you are saying but that isn't necessarily true. For all we know physics could work simply because that is how the world around us works. It isn't proof really.
I don't know. The answer is not necessarily god though. I don't believe in this many insane coincidences. The fact that everything in the universe works so well does seem by design to me. I believe in a world beyond ours and a higher power but not necessarily "God The Heavenly Father of Jesus." I'm not saying gods don't exist.But how and why does it work that way? How is it that it all these physics interact with each other in such an orderly way that allows balance in this world?
Argument from ignorance fallacy.I ask you this Budget Player Cadet_
What do do you think created the universe?
There isn't one. Begging the question fallacy.Plus, if there is no god, then what is the purpose of the human race?
What's coincidental about it?It is a very large coincidence that the world works the way it does. That the first single cell organisms appeared and later evolved into other creatures.
There's enormous evidence for the big bang.There is not much evidence that the Big Bang Theory exists, though it is generally accepted by scientists.
That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.Humans don't have hard evidence for the existence of God that would make even atheists believe in God. However, the reason physics exist would be the work of God.
Your logic is if nothing could have came before then how could it have occured?If you believe in the Big Bang theory and there is no existence of God, then how what was before the Big Bang theory, and what happens before that?
The existence of God disproves tis by stating that in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
Now if you take that begining point and you think from a timeline perspective then we can prove that the begging created the future and started what was before the begining.
Say the begining is 0.
Then the preasant is 1.
Then before the begining would be -1.
The theory of the begining.
And in the begining there was nothing except God. God is the infinite what is and was and what is to come. And the only reason I am still posting on this thread is because my God( the Father,Son, and Holly Spirit) is because I am trying to show you his magnificent creation and I am trying to tell you that the anti-crossy is comming and when this Earth dies I want to know that you all have been saved from the pit of HELL.
What makes you think the Universe was "created?" perhaps it was always there and just took on the form we now experience.I ask you this Budget Player Cadet_
What do do you think created the universe?
We don't know, but that lone fact doesn't mean you're allowed to posit your god as an explanation without positively indicative evidence.If you believe in the Big Bang theory and there is no existence of God, then how what was before the Big Bang theory, and what happens before that?.
PROOF. OF. EXISTENCE. Dude seriously I get it. You love god and we are all pathetic sinners in your eyes. You love him so much that he must be real right?If you believe in nothing, then is that your belief?
And my God created the universe that is why I said look out the window in a previous post, and the reason I said the Bible is because it explains the enormous evidence about the existence of God, so if you want answers then read the Bible.
Actually, if you look out the window, you'll know for sure that the Greek primordials formed the Universe and not YWHW. However the Titans they made usurped the rule of Uranus, and then the Gods that came after usurped them, and now we are under the rule of Zeus, son of the Titan Cronus (son of the primordial Uranus). The Giants did try to usurp the Gods, followed by the greatest monster in history of creation, Typhon, but the all power Zeus fortunately prevailed in the end. If you want answers, read the various legends documented by the Greeks.If you believe in nothing, then is that your belief?
And my God created the universe that is why I said look out the window in a previous post, and the reason I said the Bible is because it explains the enormous evidence about the existence of God, so if you want answers then read the Bible.
I'm going to stray off the topic for a moment here, but I really feel like I need to clear something out.If you believe in nothing, then is that your belief?
believe in nothing
In times of doubt, I ask myself:Actually, if you look out the window, you'll know for sure that the Greek primordials formed the Universe and not YWHW. However the Titans they made usurped the rule of Uranus, and then the Gods that came after usurped them, and now we are under the rule of Zeus, son of the Titan Cronus (son of the primordial Uranus). The Giants did try to usurp the Gods, followed by the greatest monster in history of creation, Typhon, but the all power Zeus fortunately prevailed in the end. If you want answers, read the various legends documented by the Greeks.
The bible contains claims, not evidence, which then need to be externally and independently verified.If you believe in nothing, then is that your belief?
And my God created the universe that is why I said look out the window in a previous post, and the reason I said the Bible is because it explains the enormous evidence about the existence of God, so if you want answers then read the Bible.
I have absolutely no taste in music, also you took what I said out of context by keeping only half of a scentence that I wrote.
I appreciate your taste in music. Let's share more neat things, then, such as this key distinction:
Atheism =/= Believing in Nothing. Atheism = The absence of theistic belief (literally a-theism).
That a person is an atheist tells you only one thing about them -- they have no belief in deity. It cannot tell you what an atheist might believe or not believe about any other topic.
In times of doubt, I ask myself:
WWKD (What Would Kratos Do)?
That doesn't change the fact that your points prove nothing.I have absolutely no taste in music, also you took what I said out of context by keeping only half of a scentence that I wrote.
Well, to be perfectly frank, the rest of your "scentence" carries the exact same point as the rest of your previous claims: "The Bible is evidence". I regret to inform you that it is not, the rest of us have already pointed that out to you beforehand.I have absolutely no taste in music, also you took what I said out of context by keeping only half of a scentence that I wrote.
I addressed your full point following the embedded video.I have absolutely no taste in music, also you took what I said out of context by keeping only half of a scentence that I wrote.
These devices exist and correspond in a way that allows the universe to function.What's coincidental about it?
If everything at one point did not exist, then that means there was a point in which nothing existed yet they exist now. This means that there must be a necessary being that has always existed and will never cease to exist that created life, showing that there is only one God. If multiple gods are creations of other gods, or one God, then they can truly not be gods as they are creations of a higher entity.Actually, if you look out the window, you'll know for sure that the Greek primordials formed the Universe and not YWHW. However the Titans they made usurped the rule of Uranus, and then the Gods that came after usurped them, and now we are under the rule of Zeus, son of the Titan Cronus (son of the primordial Uranus). The Giants did try to usurp the Gods, followed by the greatest monster in history of creation, Typhon, but the all power Zeus fortunately prevailed in the end. If you want answers, read the various legends documented by the Greeks.
I believe in God but I do not believe in the Bible, let alone believe Jesus was God. To my religion, God is formless, shapeless, and colorless and was never born, always existing and eternal. Jesus was born, and in human form. Jesus never said he was God and he explicitly said that God is greater than him and to pray to the Creator not him. Misinterpretations and mistranslations can often lead to a large demographic not knowing their religion accurately. Jesus was a prophet not God.And my God created the universe that is why I said look out the window in a previous post, and the reason I said the Bible is because it explains the enormous evidence about the existence of God, so if you want answers then read the Bible.
Well, for starters, that's not a coincidence. That term presupposes the universe is the way it is due to chance as opposed to, say, necessity - just like you claim your god is necessary.These devices exist and correspond in a way that allows the universe to function.
No. Nothing requires the hypothetical necessary entity that precedes existence to be a being. That is of course assuming that the universe in some form or another isn't eternal - just like you claim your god is.This means that there must be a necessary being that has always existed and will never cease to exist that created life
Whether or not the universe is the way it is by chance, it is in this form because of these devices.Well, for starters, that's not a coincidence. That term presupposes the universe is the way it is due to chance as opposed to, say, necessity - just like you claim your god is necessary.
You exist because your mother gave birth to you, and that's the reason I and every other person exist. The very first single celled organisms weren't born into. They were formed because the conditions of chemicals allowed life to appear. An entity to cause such conditions essentially would be the cause of other life to exist. We do not know for sure whether life existed eons before the original single celled organisms in another dimension or are they the first living creations.No. Nothing requires the hypothetical necessary entity that precedes existence to be a being. That is of course assuming that the universe in some form or another isn't eternal - just like you claim your god is.
Indeed, but whether or not the universe is the way it is by chance or necessity is integral to the claim of whether or not it's coincidental. Running into an old friend you were just thinking about is a coincidence because there are an enormous amount of other things that could've happened in its stead (at least unbeknownst to you, before anyone mentions determinism). The most fortuitous outcome isn't just automatically coincidental if there were no other potential outcomes.Whether or not the universe is the way it is by chance, it is in this form because of these devices.
I fail to see the relevance of this paragraph.You exist because your mother gave birth to you, and that's the reason I and every other person exist. The very first single celled organisms weren't born into. They were formed because the conditions of chemicals allowed life to appear. An entity to cause such conditions essentially would be the cause of other life to exist. We do not know for sure whether life existed eons before the original single celled organisms in another dimension or are they the first living creations.
If God exists he is a necessary being because it is logically impossible to be by chance. Because the universe would be a creation of God, the universe is by chance. It is a coincidence as it exists the way it is now because the conditions and devices existed. These devices existed by chance therefore making it a coincidence that the universe is the way it is now.Indeed, but whether or not the universe is the way it is by chance or necessity is integral to the claim of whether or not it's coincidental. Running into an old friend you were just thinking about is a coincidence because there are an enormous amount of other things that could've happened in its stead (at least unbeknownst to you, before anyone mentions determinism). The most fortuitous outcome isn't just automatically coincidental if there were no other potential outcomes.
The existence of one being is necessary to the existence of another, but one being must always exist and cause the existence of other entities. That paragraph was explaining why the necessary entity exists, since without the necessary entity nothing would exist because nothing can come from nothing.I fail to see the relevance of this paragraph.