What configuration?

[Smoom77]

I'm trying out new ATs for Peach, but I don't know what controller configuration I should use. I'm using a GC controller.

What would you recommend me to use? What do you use?

 

[shinobiknight0]

I use tap jump off or the default configuration. There's some interesting things like the Free turnip pull with the B stick but I'm used to using the C stick for a lot of my aerials already.

 

[ExCeL 52]

Standard is the best bro.

 

[Shockdrake]

I'm going to bump this because it's a relevant question to mine.

I've been experimenting with several controller setups in an effort to make the following possible:

1) Still be able to CStick glidetoss.
2) Have a trigger jump button for float tricks.
3) Be able to smash with an item, requiring holding an attack button and CSticking+Z.

Note that with the trigger jump, while other characters have to do some laggy move to hold the attack button to ready an item-in-hand smash, Peach only has to Trigger Jump + insta float + hold attack + land, which is over in a split second, and she can do it on the move. Opponents never know if you prepped, so they're always wary of your ability to smash the moment you master this.

My own setup: Because I shield with R, I've mapped L to jump. CStick is still set to smash. I've set Y to attack and am now holding the controller with ring finger shield, middle finger Z, and index finger leaning on Y. The only awkward thing is shielding with ring finger. This setup lets you do all of the above, which I consider to be not essential, but highly useful to a really good Peach's game.

So, you can insta-float with trigger > Y > land, then run around and Cstick smash or let go for glidetoss, or just go for Peach's normal aerial game. Or just throw it.

Default controls make item-smashing almost impossible. The above setup is still a little awkward, so I'm looking for someone whose setup allows them to do the above with a less awkward setup. I have tap jump on; I don't mess up utilt, although that doesn't matter much to this discussion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHppOHdDZ2s
I wonder if this person's setup is less awkward.

Peach is my secondary. I've played her for a while. If I get this to work, I plan to make Peach my main.

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I'm also wondering if there's any fast way to insta float > nair > land. I do Down + trigger jump > let go of control stick (takes time) > nair > land. I can obviously just hop the nair, but it's good to be able to pull out a fast nair near the floor sometimes. It's also inconvenient to base this off timing, since wrong timing = dair or very slow. Is there another way I don't know of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oxUxtCxBPI
Vanz does it quite a bit in this video. That nair seems to come out really fast, so I don't think he's inputting the buttons I just described.

 

[Monkley6]

I haven't a clue how Vanz does it, but if you've got the cstick set to tilts, and hit a diagonal (I think, don't quote me!) on it in the air, you do a nair. It might just be a diagonal of up & back idk?
Anyway, aside from that I would just guess good timing, knowing when you can let go of down?
But hey, what do i know?

BTW I think you have some incredibly badass fingers, imo. I have issues hitting shield with my middle & index on Z... just feels goofy. Do you have tentacles for hands or something?

 

[White-Peach]

You might want to read up on CLAWing to have all of your needs met.

As for instafloat NAirs:

(Control Stick)Down + (x/y) to start the float
Release the Control Stick and Press A to start the NAir
Let go of x/y
Fastfall.

Fingers:
Left thumb down on control stick with right thumb down on x(i dont use y )
Release the control stick while simultaneously rolling your thumb from x to A
smash down on the control stick again

 

[Shockdrake]

Thanks for the replies. =)

You might want to read up on CLAWing to have all of your needs met.

As for instafloat NAirs:

(Control Stick)Down + (x/y) to start the float
Release the Control Stick and Press A to start the NAir
Let go of x/y
Fastfall.

Fingers:
Left thumb down on control stick with right thumb down on x(i dont use y )
Release the control stick while simultaneously rolling your thumb from x to A
smash down on the control stick again

That instafloat nair takes time to input. If you A too early, you dair. If you A late, it's really slow.

cstick tilts

This works like an A button. You still dair if you're holding down on your control stick. It's useful for nair'ing reliably and quickly, but it doesn't make a difference here, since you still have to let go of down and time that A.

Vanz does it a lot faster than I'd expect is possible with ^ methods.

Example at 0:30 of the video.
Link again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oxUxtCxBPI

clawing

I've looked up clawing before.

Judging by this thread,
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=180115&highlight=claw

.. my setup is pretty similar to the claw. although I'm still thumbing B and A and X for jump.

 

[Cia]

To do a Nair, I just jump and press A. No special tricks

=D

 

[Shockdrake]

Even at 0:30 here...? =0
Link again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oxUxtCxBPI

 

[Cia]

oooh, No. While I'm in float, I use Z to Nair. That's a habit I carried over from melee.

:D

 

[Gangsta_inc]

You might want to read up on CLAWing to have all of your needs met.

As for instafloat NAirs:

(Control Stick)Down + (x/y) to start the float
Release the Control Stick and Press A to start the NAir
Let go of x/y
Fastfall.

Fingers:
Left thumb down on control stick with right thumb down on x(i dont use y )
Release the control stick while simultaneously rolling your thumb from x to A
smash down on the control stick again

I prefer using y because then theres no need to roll your thumb. you just press the A button with the lower part of your thumb.

 

[Mike B]

Only mod: Grab set to x. Makes grabbing so much easier. Stupid Z feels out of the way.

 

[Xyless]

My changes are...
Tap Jump = Off
R Button = Jump (for easier floating controls)
X Button = Taunt (because I don't use it anyway, and then people who use my name learn not to use it )

 

[Gangsta_inc]

Only mod: Grab set to x. Makes grabbing so much easier. Stupid Z feels out of the way.

Shield grab with C-stick up is the most crispy grab you can ask for.
True....
....Story

 

[Mike B]

using Cstick For Anything Other Than Default

You Sir Are Making A Big Mistake.

 

[Gangsta_inc]

You Sir Are Making A Big Mistake.

That's the perk. It IS default