Nicktendo
Smash Ace
Bowser seems alot better than his melee self, I cant wait to try him out
ftw
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WGW's guide to Bowser in Brawl {Attacks added, Glossary developing}
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Dynamism
Smash Lord
If Bowser takes the lead, he wins.
Clawsides make Bowser top tier haha First hit first kill...Is this ssb64?
Also, question for anyone who can answer
- Can Bowser grab the ledge behind him mid-bomb like you can with the backwards ledgesnap? Or does he just go past like melee? That would be another good buff.
Clawsides make Bowser top tier haha First hit first kill...Is this ssb64?
Also, question for anyone who can answer
- Can Bowser grab the ledge behind him mid-bomb like you can with the backwards ledgesnap? Or does he just go past like melee? That would be another good buff.
-Wolfy-
Smash Champion
I asked Gimpy that a while ago in a PM and he has no idea lol.
i dont believe it grabs now that i think about it. i think i used bowser bomb to grab the edge on a part of norfair, and it skipped past another ledge that i was facing away from that i would've grabbed.
i dont THINK this is in, but i'm not really positive
i dont THINK this is in, but i'm not really positive
legendofme
Smash Journeyman
I'm not sure if the Bowsercides will be that good. suiciding never really was viable in the heat of battle unless it was really called for it. But whatever helps you win I always say.
legendofme
Smash Journeyman
Yeah and the new l-cancel looks like it will help in the long run too. We will see soon.
-Wolfy-
Smash Champion
An important thing to note, is that if in melee, the L-cancel were automatic, yeah, bowser would be a little better, but now fox's tech skill would be unbeatable, since more people would be able to be ridiculously techy with him. i like the new klawcide though lol. imagine being up one life, but high percentage, you foe is mounting a comeback, about to equalize the stocks, and then you bowsercide for the win lol.
Nicktendo
Smash Ace
how could it not if your up a stock?
also about these bowser sides, can people break out of it like kirbys throws at lower percents in melee?
If its unable to get out of it sounds pretty broken
likes the sound of it
paralasalud
Smash Ace
i'm pretty sure they'll be able to break out of it, but only based on kirby/DK's melee throw being breakable, and being the only two throws that you can suicide with.how could it not if your up a stock?
also about these bowser sides, can people break out of it like kirbys throws at lower percents in melee?
If its unable to get out of it sounds pretty broken
legendofme
Smash Journeyman
'm sorry my bad. lol.how could it not if your up a stock?
also about these bowser sides, can people break out of it like kirbys throws at lower percents in melee?
If its unable to get out of it sounds pretty broken
Haruno Kotetsu
Smash Ace
Im kinda dissapointed about lag on his ftilt, fortress, and some of his best moves in Melee getting downgraded, but hopefully he'll be all around better
who said his ftilt got a downgrade?
Dynamism
Smash Lord
They should be able to break out of it...for almost everyones sake. And they probably can, but they shouldn't be able to for Bowsers sake
This wil have to go to further testing though, like how long (far down) can Bowser carry them before they break out. It might still be enough to finish them. hahah OMG!!!
I really think this new form of lag-cancle will benefit Bowser more than almost anyone (except maybe Ike). Characters like Fox rely on the limited lag of their aerials but if Bowser loses all of the lag on his...then Fox having rapid SHFFLs isn't as overwhelming and single characterized (if that's a word)
yeah he can and that's how you can chain two together, they are stunned in the air for it.
His fortress is really laggy on landing so that is a nerff yeah, but the attack still comes out as quik (which is the best thing about it). But his ftilt has more range, just as strong and just as fast. Nerf?
Is that a riddle? Cause the straight forward answer doesn't really exist.
Edit: WGW - Add that Bowser hits people on the way UP when he uses the Bowser Bomb off the ground. Cause it actually does.
PS: That's not a riddle, the answer is me and yes it does.
where is evidence that bowser bomb hits on the way up?
i dont remember this
i dont remember this
Dynamism
Smash Lord
I'll find the video. He is fighting a Mario and he does it alot but only hits twice I think.
I believe it was a two parter so it shouldn't be too hard to find again.
I thought you might of missed it. As far as people who use Bowser, DownB off the ground isn't something we're familliar with haha
It shocked me when I saw it too, I had to watch it over and over like 10 times to convince myself haha
I believe it was a two parter so it shouldn't be too hard to find again.
I thought you might of missed it. As far as people who use Bowser, DownB off the ground isn't something we're familliar with haha
It shocked me when I saw it too, I had to watch it over and over like 10 times to convince myself haha
well i saw the 2 part video and i saw that bowser for sure has no flinch frames, but i didn't think it was hitting mario on the way up
perhaps i was mistaken *shrug*
perhaps i was mistaken *shrug*
Dynamism
Smash Lord
Sorry for the delay, I had to watch some commercials and some broken-fast-final-cutter-no-lag-after-stone-Kirby Gameplay.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wxzIeovBtEs
He does it at 3 and misses but you can see the swipe.
He hits Mario with it at 43. It does 3%
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wxzIeovBtEs
He does it at 3 and misses but you can see the swipe.
He hits Mario with it at 43. It does 3%
Haruno Kotetsu
Smash Ace
Eh, I was half asleep and didnt think that out lol i never noticed that the ftilt came out slow on melee, too. Was just thinking "Well, If I hit people with it, it can't be THAT slow". My bad.
How is the damage in the Fortress this time around..?
Airgemini
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Nice guide so far.
brawlmaniac
Smash Lord
About time Bowser's improved.
Inferno_blaze
Smash Lord
I dunno if my post disappeared or something but I said nice job with the thread man.
jmanxiv
Smash Apprentice
First time posting
This is my firt post on this site and looking thru the bowser videos I notice that it was me playing. The video is bowser gets second place in norfair. I was playing as mario. That was my second time playing brawl
This is my firt post on this site and looking thru the bowser videos I notice that it was me playing. The video is bowser gets second place in norfair. I was playing as mario. That was my second time playing brawl
-Wolfy-
Smash Champion
Thanks Inferno, and that's awesome jman, I'm very jealous.
Inferno_blaze
Smash Lord
Bowser Final Smash is in the TV spots and he gets like 3 KOs with an Fsmash, add them to the list :D
-Wolfy-
Smash Champion
i will work on adding them today, thankyou.
about fire breath it can only be aimed with the c-stick?? kinda weird idea right there...
and i'm guessing the rumor about secondary fireball shooting is out... d@mn that woulda been sweet... :sad:
also if you use koopa klaw on some near the edge, can that be a suicide kill??
and i'm guessing the rumor about secondary fireball shooting is out... d@mn that woulda been sweet... :sad:
also if you use koopa klaw on some near the edge, can that be a suicide kill??
Dynamism
Smash Lord
I'm just gonna quote myself about the Bowser Bomb off the ground
It's not much but it's definately worth noting.
WGW, take a look and add it. Bowser hits on his way up
XxAlucardxX
Smash Cadet
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Bowser is soo much better I cant wait to play as him
Layupfreak
Smash Ace
Bowser got better, but Dedede will smash him, jkjk it'll be a good battle.
-Wolfy-
Smash Champion
im glad you like, but i would appreciate posts with some depth.Bowser's strategy in 4 player looks like waiting around till he can easily kill everyone with his better speed and range. GOOOO BOWSER!
Inferno_blaze
Smash Lord
It's more the knockback than the damage that is important, and it IS important. Anything that buffs the bomb is good.I'm just gonna quote myself about the Bowser Bomb off the ground
It's not much but it's definately worth noting.
WGW, take a look and add it. Bowser hits on his way up
Inferno_blaze
Smash Lord
It's still a claw move and it looks awesome, he does fly up and then slam down, it's not as cool a name as Koopa Klaw though to be fair.
i'm still calling it the klaw *shrug* lol
-Wolfy-
Smash Champion
The new name is ridiculous. When I saw it I was flabbergasted.
