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You serious?
Oh, you mean Mac is winning 50% of the time and losing 50% of the time?
Win ratio doesn't mean anything, out of what... how many matches have I even played against with him? Maybe a handful per week. And a lot of that doesn't equate to much, given player skill and all. Two jabs shouldn't send you flying on FG. It's seriously a joke.
Then why even bring it up?
Hayzie, you still haven't answered my question. And two jabs is perfectly fine. Please read my previous posts. Seriously, I could write a book on why Mac is a well balanced character.
What's with the Little Mac boner around here? There's boards for all characters and everyone has things they both like & dislike about all of the characters, be it their nerfs or buffs or moves. I don't give two monkey droppings how many people are good or bad with him. I personally think his punches are super cheap, no matter if I come out on top in the match or lose. You win some, you lose some, he's OP on the ground. Hey, is he OP on the ground? Personally, I think anyone who defends Little Mac to the core is just not good at the game because they are the definition of noob city.
You... have no idea what you're talking about. You're basically saying, "I don't care if people put hundreds of hours of their lives into perfecting a character just so they can give me their best game, I think Little Mac is overpowered and requires no skill despite not being able to come up with a logical argument to support my opinion.
tl;dr we don't agree with you so we suck and are noobs. Good to know. I guess i am the definition of noob city, rather than the flock of Little Mac noobs who demand nerfs, right?(I mean the noobs only, not the decent people)
Point and blank of the thread, people I again point to the article I posted in the Opening Post. . .
Wait, what? Are you using me as an example or telling me something? If the latter, i don't get how my post warrants this comment. Not that it's bad, more like unrelated. Read the post i was quoting, he said that anyone who defends Mac is not good at the game.
Nah, I was quoting it saying what you said is exactly what I'm trying to say to the people who kept complaining of Little Mac being OP.
Ok. Makes more sense. Although I don't want to tread the git gud path, I want to make actual reasons. But I don't feel like doing that on an iPod, even with Swype, beacause nobody has made an actual counterargument. So until then I'll keep my nonexistent paragraph to myself. Then I'll make one when a retroactively actual reasoning, thought processing abilities and the decency not to insult me.
You obviously didn't read what was said from who I was responding to.
Yeah, please tell me what character comes close to being able to spam just 2 punches with no lag while sending you far back, all while moving at the speed of light.
Lol. Please show me these tons of idiot macv detractors. Except you don't need to, the general lack of reasoning within outside of the occasional smart person is proof enough.
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You keep claiming Little Mac is OP. Please provide proof.Look at all these butt-hurt Mac Mains
"You have an opinion, you're the one at fault for not liking what I like
Arguing with Mac players. Still writing bibles. I just really don't care.
I'm not watching a 20 minute video.
I don't care for Mac vs Mac who are using side specials so close to each other and it's a ditto match which is pointless.
Mac vs Dedede was a snippet of someone who was incompetent, nobody would make that mistake if they knew how to play the game.
Pointless!
{edit} First 7 minutes of Bwett vs Denti, commentator mentions Mac is too powerful, FD is his stage, and has armor on everything. He's OP on the ground. I don't know what the fuss is about. Nerve struck.
You're not at fault for not liking what i don't. You're at fault for constantly insulting us, over and over . And you have no reason to do that, at all. You're at fault for making these absurd comments without giving an explanation, just because. You're also at fault because You're saying anything that doesn't outright prove you wrong is pointless. Lastly, you're at fault for starting this stupid argument. And for that, you don't deserve to hear my reasons until you say yours. If youdon't get why, read my wall of text above. You clearly don't care about what we're saying, only the best ways to make fun of us. And you obviously don't know what a Bible is. From wikipedia: The Bible is a canonical collection of texts sacred in Judaism and Christianity. This isn't religion. Please stop, your jokes aren't funny. And i'm not salty until i start raging in caps, so a nerve was not struck.Look at all these butt-hurt Mac Mains
"You have an opinion, you're the one at fault for not liking what I like
Arguing with Mac players. Still writing bibles. I just really don't care.
I'm not watching a 20 minute video.
I don't care for Mac vs Mac who are using side specials so close to each other and it's a ditto match which is pointless.
Mac vs Dedede was a snippet of someone who was incompetent, nobody would make that mistake if they knew how to play the game.
Pointless!
{edit} First 7 minutes of Bwett vs Denti, commentator mentions Mac is too powerful, FD is his stage, and has armor on everything. He's OP on the ground. I don't know what the fuss is about. Nerve struck.
Man, this thread is stressful. Anyways. First of all, I main Metaknight, not Mac, and in Brawl I mained Lucario, so don't bring that "abusing an OP character" **** up. Hayzie, our opinion, Mac is a balanced and highly skillful character, is supported by facts, such as his horrible air game, *** tier recovery, and unforgiving playstyle that doesn't allow for any mistakes. Your opinion, Mac is overpowered and requires no skill, is not. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you weren't just trying to start a flame war. As such, I'll be explaining to you why you're an idiot by quoting and analyzing every single post you've made on this thread. I hope you appreciate this. I've given the notable things you say the pink treatment, and the contradictions are in green, since you don't seem to be able see these things without help.Look at all these butt-hurt Mac Mains
"You have an opinion, you're the one at fault for not liking what I like
KO punch really isn't that scary. It doesn't come out THAT fast, and Mac's guaranteed followups are generally pretty risky, not to mention it isn't all that terrifying in the air. Crazy knockback is necessary when you can't gimp. Yes, FD is a good stage for Mac. Get over it. It's a good stage for Shiek and her needles too, but you don't hear me complaining. Staying on stage isn't called camping. Mac literally cannot leave the stage safely. You're getting mad at Mac players for not being idiots. That's like saying Jigglypuff is spamming for using shorthop fairs instead of running grabs. Knocking you back into the air is called juggling not spam. It's also not that hard to avoid. Don't take this the wrong way, but you might not be as amazing as you think you are. After all, LM's juggling consists almost soley of running Usmashes. Of course he doesn't use his specials all that much. Specials aren't meant to be used very often, unless you're playing a projectile character or something. Using specials a lot when you're not playing with projectiles is generally considered spam.
This is stupid beyond belief. If that was true, most of Smash's roster wouldn't be included in the game, and the ones that were would mediocre characters with very few kill options. You don't have a point. Moving on.I struck a nerve, lol.Of course he punches, but in his games his opponent doesn't fly away, either. That's my point.
Take a look at the green part. Restore my faith in humanity and tell me you see how you're contradicting yourself here. Overpowered means powerful to the point where a character is unbalanced. If he's balanced, by definition, he must not be underpowered or overpowered. More contradictions. By your logic, isn't Jiggs a really bad character? If Mac had as much lag on his moves as most characters, he would die, because everything else about his character is unsafe. Can you imagine how horrible he'd be if you could punish even a quarter of the moves he whiffed? Constant punch spam? All his moves are punches. You're complaining a rushdown character isn't giving you time to return to neutral?
You just said LM requires no skill to play. We've already talked about the knockback.
Again, you say LM requires no skill, but then talk about people being good or bad with him, implying certain people play him skillfully. wut? The pink part is just you saying it's your opinion Mac is cheap, then insulting people who don't think so by calling them n00bs. You didn't even spell it right.
Actually, since you never backed your argument with evidence that wasn't BS, you don't have a point that'll stand. I'm not seeing any likes on your posts. Do the people who agree with you prefer to remain anonymous? Second paragraph. None, Mac is unique, but fits into the rushdown character archetype. As opposed to having the potent air game and combo potential of of other rushdowners(Shiek, Sonic, Captain Falcon), Little Mac has insanely good ground game and raw power. Also, Sanic moves at the speed of sound, and Mac is slower than Sanic, so he can't possibly move at the speed of light. The more you know.
Oh, come now. I'm putting so much effort into picking apart your hastily scribbled posts, and you're not even willing to watch a 20 minute video of pure smash shoryuken :3? lol @ incompetent. I thought you said Mac requires no skill to play. If so, incompetence shouldn't make a difference, and he should be Bwett level. Don't say it's pointless before you've watched all the videos -_-. And the commentator is an authoritative source? This was in the very early stages of Sm4sh, and it was clear the commentator hadn't had much experience with Mac. It's easy to think a character's good when you see them win. He's OP on the ground, and UP in the air, making him balanced. And stop talking about nerves being struck. Nobody's nerves are being struck, despite your constant insults.Look at all these butt-hurt Mac Mains
"You have an opinion, you're the one at fault for not liking what I like
Arguing with Mac players. Still writing bibles. I just really don't care.
I'm not watching a 20 minute video.
I don't care for Mac vs Mac who are using side specials so close to each other and it's a ditto match which is pointless.
Mac vs Dedede was a snippet of someone who was incompetent, nobody would make that mistake if they knew how to play the game.
Pointless!
{edit} First 7 minutes of Bwett vs Denti, commentator mentions Mac is too powerful, FD is his stage, and has armor on everything. He's OP on the ground. I don't know what the fuss is about. Nerve struck.
Dimensional Cloak is pretty incredible too. Much stronger, and it kills at good percents. I feel like if people get really good with it, it could totally remove the viability of laggy projectiles like Zamus' stun shot and Falco's blaster when playing against MK. That's just me though.
As a MK secondary user in Brawl and soon Smash 4, I'm going to Dimensional Cape my way to victory, as that cape is amazingly helpful for mind games and mix ups. People don't know where you'll teleport, whether it be into the air, behind them, infront of them, in the same spot, and my favorite, timing it delayed so you teleport a smaller distance, letting you teleport into the air, behind them, AND be able to hit them with the "Slash" part of the attack. Dimensional Cape is my go to move for MK when I'm in need of mind games or mix ups.
He wasn't nerfed[/quote]
ButButBut.. Dem Super Armor on half his moves ! Dem broken Dash Attack! Dem KO Punch Buff! Dem Tilts! Dem borked Smashes! Dem gimping! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
