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Right. Let's not put a reticle on him for a nerfbat shall we? Otherwise, it's gonna be a pretty empty board.Who cares if he's top tier or not...
Weavile is a frikking fun character regardless...
Counter Attack Dash Cancel.What's CADC?
Also I'm loving Weavile, as he's one of my favorite Pokemon, it's exciting to play him in a fighting game X3
I've found that if in Duel Phase if you use up and X or Y (I forget which one, the anti-air slash), you can't do anything before landing, but if you hit your opponent with it, you can actually do the mid-air icicle before landing, which (if you're in the corner) you can do anti-air slash into icicle > shove it into your opponent as a combo.
ooh that thing :D thanksCounter Attack Dash Cancel.
CADC stands for counter attack dash cancel. (Booo ninja'd[I guess that's what I get for taking so long to reply]) It's basically the same as a Focus Cancel in Street Fighter. Perform it by starting a counter attack then pressing R and any direction simultaneously. You can go forward, back left or right in field phase, but in duel phase you can only go left or right. One of the tutorials has you perform it.What's CADC?
Also I'm loving Weavile, as he's one of my favorite Pokemon, it's exciting to play him in a fighting game X3
I've found that if in Duel Phase if you use up and X or Y (I forget which one, the anti-air slash), you can't do anything before landing, but if you hit your opponent with it, you can actually do the mid-air icicle before landing, which (if you're in the corner) you can do anti-air slash into icicle > shove it into your opponent as a combo.
I remember the tutorial just called it a cancel, right? XP That's why I was confused as to what the initials to that were haha. But thans!CADC stands for counter attack dash cancel. (Booo ninja'd[I guess that's what I get for taking so long to reply]) It's basically the same as a Focus Cancel in Street Fighter. Perform it by starting a counter attack then pressing R and any direction simultaneously. You can go forward, back left or right in field phase, but in duel phase you can only go left or right. One of the tutorials has you perform it.
Since you don't take any damage while charging a counter attack (at least to my understanding) it's incredibly useful for eating projectiles while approaching in field phase.
As for the combo, I believe Weavile's final combo in the combo practice mode is really similar. The only difference is that after icicle crash you can land knock off.
Anybody else have any combos? The only one I've found myself is duel phase aerial X > up+A > charged A.
A decent anti air combo in Duel Phase is 2X into 5Y. I find myself punishing people a lot with it since a most players on ranked tend to just throw out moves.CADC stands for counter attack dash cancel. (Booo ninja'd[I guess that's what I get for taking so long to reply]) It's basically the same as a Focus Cancel in Street Fighter. Perform it by starting a counter attack then pressing R and any direction simultaneously. You can go forward, back left or right in field phase, but in duel phase you can only go left or right. One of the tutorials has you perform it.
Since you don't take any damage while charging a counter attack (at least to my understanding) it's incredibly useful for eating projectiles while approaching in field phase.
As for the combo, I believe Weavile's final combo in the combo practice mode is really similar. The only difference is that after icicle crash you can land knock off.
Anybody else have any combos? The only one I've found myself is duel phase aerial X > up+A > charged A.
tested and yeah you get 1 hp more damage with X, 5A.I think you can get a tiny bit more mileage out of XAAAAA than XXYYYYY, but I tested that in the context of landing divekick first, so could be partially a hit scaling thing. Combo damage scales really hard in this game :/
Most weavile I see online tend to run eevee and frogadier. from what I can tell I think it's mostly preference.Thoughts on supports? Through single player I've mostly been running Cubone/Diglett and Snivy/Lapras, all of which are there to put pressure on the opponent, which is especially helpful if you're trying to run their Synergy Burst timer down from relative safety, or if you're at range and need a way in against projectiles if it's not Snivy (not that Weavile should really have much trouble with that IMO, you're fast and a small target and have icicles and a fastfall and Agility and and and...).
Any others I should be considering? I don't have everything unlocked yet, and no access to my WiiU for a while, so...
...well you see...Who cares if he's top tier or not...
Weavile is a frikking fun character regardless...
One thing I like to do is charge his Y attack and move around the arena, after releasing Y he chucks a line of snowballs...makes for some great spacing and mix-ups...
When people say viable, they mean competitively viable."Viable" is a badly-used word anyway. You can play any character you'd like in any fighting game, as long as you don't care about winning. Always specify what you're trying to do when you use that word.
I mean the obvious response would be to use your grab. Try baiting their shield option by using Knock off and then cancelling into a grab, most people react to the initial knock off by shielding so it should be a free punish on block happy opponents. Just remember to mix it up.What should you do about a block spamming Sceptile? Since I struggle against people who block a lot. (Unfortunately I play offensively...)
Early thanks for the help!
This is one reason I like Mismagius...it provides added sheild pressure which I can then run in and punish with a grab...What should you do about a block spamming Sceptile? Since I struggle against people who block a lot. (Unfortunately I play offensively...)
Early thanks for the help!
Against whom? To what level of success? Do you want to win your local? A regional? Make it out of pools at EVO? Win EVO? Get on top of the online ladder? Beat your annoyingly good kid brother?When people say viable, they mean competitively viable.
When people talk competitively, they care about winning.
You're being a smartass about it. Top level. Win EVO.re: block spam, the obvious answer is grab more, but you can also go into training mode and set the dummy to block and react with stuff so you can figure out what's safe to do versus what options out of block
Against whom? To what level of success? Do you want to win your local? A regional? Make it out of pools at EVO? Win EVO? Get on top of the online ladder? Beat your annoyingly good kid brother?
TruthYou're being a smartass about it. Top level. Win EVO.
You can win locals with Melee Kirby, that doesn't make him viable.