"Weapon Get" - Mega Man Movelisting and Discussion

[Z1GMA]

Coolest Dthrow would be if he threw his foe on the grpund, then summoned 4 Skull Shield Skulls, lined them up, and had them crashing down one after the other.

btw, Nice work on the OP.
However, Metal Blade has low/med knockback.
It's shown in the MM Vs Mario match when it kills Mario.

 

[ぱみゅ]

It'd be cool if Dtrhow sends opponents flying in a Search Snake-esque animation.

 

[Neo Zero]

It'd be cool if Dtrhow sends opponents flying in a Search Snake-esque animation.

All of my wat

I wouldn't really call that medium knockback. He was at like 100 or so and it didnt even exactly kill, the Mario just didn't recover really. Medium to me is fairly powerful knockback around the 100s and that sure wasn't it. Also while I doubt any weapon will see use in his throws, I could see Dthrow utilizing one of my favorite underated weapons, the Danger Wrap.

 

[Z1GMA]

Not Med - low/med.
It's friggin' Metal Blades, Bro!

Might be my love for Megaman that makes me overestimate them blades, though

 

[Neo Zero]

Haha, fair enough . To be fair though, the move chains into itself on the same blade at low percents.

Reviewing that clip, it got me thinking though. Mega Man has potentially a very very scary ledge guard game. Up B lets him go up highish so he can go relatively low and still make it back. Crash Bomb if it sticks controls your opponent, likely allowing a follow up such as Dair. Even if they air dodge the bomb explosion (which some characters may very well not have the luxury to do and still recover, Dair has such stupid range you could probably fire it out in the same area and punish the air dodge. Metal Blade does one thing that I believe no other projectile in Smash history can do, fire 45 degrees up. If they're recovering high you can basically maintain constant pressure and make life harder then if you didn't fire anything. Even if they catch it you still essentially limit what they can do for a brief period of time. Leaf Shield is a full screen projectile that looks hard to simply air dodge and would stuff basically any projectile counter attack back. Finally you have the Energy Pellet which, while having low low knockback, can be used to stop horizontal movement and stuff jumps.

....God that sounds broke lol, I love it. Hope this holds up when it comes out xD.

 

[Z1GMA]

Crash Bomb if it sticks controls your opponent, likely allowing a follow up such as Dair. Even if they air dodge the bomb explosion

Sounds like an upgraded version of Samus' "Homer > Dair", which is great.

I love this.
Coming up with strategies and shenanigans long before the game is released.
Let's call it the "Yuri Spike", or "Yuri Knuckle".

I was actually thinking of a possibly very good gimp earlier today;
The opponent recovers low, you jump down with Leaf Shield, hitting them - knocking them back, then you instantly fire the Leafs at him.
If that combos, it should gimp the hell out of ppl.
The "Z1Gimp".

 

[Doopliss_Swe]

If you can move with the leaves in the first place that is.

If someone recovers low, maybe you can double jump up, shoot a metal blade straight down, then pursuit with Dair or fair/bair depending on how they react, then up B back up.

Also, I wonder if you can Dair people through the floor on a stage like Delfino Plaza. I know I've spiked people with R.O.B in that situation, maybe MM can too.

 

[GunBlaze]

shoot a metal blade straight down

You can't. Unless you are talking about the item form.

 

[LaniusShrike]

You can't. Unless you are talking about the item form.

I'm fairly sure the consensus is that the metal blade is shot by hitting neutral B then one of the 8-directions you want the blade to shoot. So, if that's the case, then you would be able to shoot downward mid-air.

'course, I'd probably be using the hard knuckle down-air instead anyway.

 

[GunBlaze]

I'm fairly sure the consensus is that the metal blade is shot by hitting neutral B then one of the 8-directions you want the blade to shoot. So, if that's the case, then you would be able to shoot downward mid-air.

There are 9 directions. Guess which one wasn't invited.

 

[Z1GMA]

If you can move with the leaves in the first place that is.

You can jump out over the edge, then deploy the Leaf Shield.

About moving with it - you actually can.

 

[LaniusShrike]

There are 9 directions. Guess which one wasn't invited.

Did you mean 7? Could you not throw the Metal Blade downwards in MM2? Guess I'm not sure what you're saying.

The Mega Man wiki says he was able to shoot in any direction, not sure why it'd be changed for Smash.

 

[UnSaxon51]

There are 9 directions. Guess which one wasn't invited.

There are 8 directions. 9 is in the center.
In the Nintendo Direct video he specifically mentions that Metal Blade can be thrown in 8 directions, just like the original game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ#t=04m55s

 

[Neo Zero]

Sounds like an upgraded version of Samus' "Homer > Dair", which is great.

I love this.
Coming up with strategies and shenanigans long before the game is released.
Let's call it the "Yuri Spike", or "Yuri Knuckle".

I was actually thinking of a possibly very good gimp earlier today;
The opponent recovers low, you jump down with Leaf Shield, hitting them - knocking them back, then you instantly fire the Leafs at him.
If that combos, it should gimp the hell out of ppl.
The "Z1Gimp".

Lol . Never been one for naming things after me though. If it works, the Homing Knuckle would be great.

As for leaf shield, momentum will still go with it, and I imagine you can jump even with it summoned, but we still really don't know how it's fired and if you can move in the Horizontal axis (or even the Vertical if you use the stick to jump). Also about that gimp, I don't think it'd work well on disjoints (such as swordies) as, while it'd likely trade with them, they could probably hit you out of the way and recover fine, since the knockback for the shield form of Leaf Shield looks pretty vertical. If anything in that situation, you just let Link recover

 

[Z1GMA]

How do you guys think Megaman's Projectile Game will work against other Trigger Happy opponents, such as Pit, Olimar, ROB, Link, Samus, etc...?
I really hope MM's projectiles doesn't get shut down completely by Olimar's little trolls, like Samus' were in Brawl.

Also, I'm so looking forward to controlling ppl with Crash Bomber.
Force approaching/shielding/dodging, etc...

 

[Kudemo]

What do you think about this screen ?

It could be his Ftilt.

 

[Neo Zero]

What do you think about this screen ?

It could be his Ftilt.

He doesnt have a Ftilt imo. If you're in the other camp, his Ftilt is a walking version of his jab. At any rate, that's his Fsmash. Sometimes it feels like I didn't spent 5 hours on the large detailed opening post.

 

[GunBlaze]

What do you think about this screen ?

It could be his Ftilt.

It's actually his F-Smash.

 

[Z1GMA]

Probably the uncharged version of it.

 

[GunBlaze]

Probably the uncharged version of it.

No. Any version that isn't the pellets it F-Smash-related.

 

[Z1GMA]

If you say so.

 

[UnSaxon51]

I think Z1G meant it's the uncharged F-smash.

 

[GunBlaze]

I think Z1G meant it's the uncharged F-smash.

And I though he was talking to Kudemo.

 

[Luigi player]

why would he say that you can charge ftilt lol

Megamans Fsmash could be really something. I'm sure many characters in Brawl would wish to have it to be able to counter some things from MK.

He could also be great in doubles. He could help his teammate so much with his little shots, but he could also suck if he has trouble keeping opponents away/being bad in close combat.

 

[Neo Zero]

Flamesword and Slashclaw seem to be his gtfo me moves. Flamesword for sure looks like it'd be a move people would have to respect

 

[Z1GMA]

- I have a feeling...

- Fsmash will be easy to land in ppl's Landing Lag.

- Usmash will have great knockback. Mostly due to the fact that both Usmash & Dsmash recuires MM to "vent them out" (punishable cooldown) afterwards.
And since Dsmash appears to deal great damage, I assume Usmash's strenght lies in its knockback.

- Megaman will be able to fire pellets during his up+b, when he's rising.
Even though they didn't demonstrate it.

 

[Neo Zero]

On the note of the last one, I kind of doubt it. Mega Man enters a unique animation until the apex of his jump. We also have two different up bs we've seen, one that enters free fall and one that doesn't. He might not be able to shoot on the way down.

 

[Chiroz]

Have you guys given thought to the fact that in order to be able to run AND shoot concurrently like shown in the gameplay video his Pellets would have to be his dash attack and not his ftilt. (Pellets would be his Jab, Dash Attack and Neutral Air)

Being an F-Tilt does not allow him to run and shoot only to walk and shoot.

His F-Tilt is probably the Whirldwind Spin shown on the videos. That would also explain how Sakurai was able to completely change momentum at one point by performing the Spin move, the move, possibly being an F-Tilt, can change Megaman's facing and thus changes his direction and momentum.

Just a thought.

 

[Neo Zero]

Run and shoot sounds better than walk at a mild pace and shoot, thus the name. As for your theory, its incorrect. His dash animation moves much faster than the slow brisk pace of Ftilt. Spin move is only done from his run, which btw, its called Top Spin.

 

[Luigi player]

hmm considering his other tilts being very "moving-based", it could seem possible... but Megamans running animation looks different than his walking (he has his arms backwards), so while shooting it's definitely his walking.

 

[Chiroz]

Run and shoot sounds better than walk at a mild pace and shoot, thus the name. As for your theory, its incorrect. His dash animation moves much faster than the slow brisk pace of Ftilt. Spin move is only done from his run, which btw, its called Top Spin.

My bad, I might have to check the videos again to notice if it was his running or his walking animation. Haven't seen rhe videos in a while.

I didn't remember the name of the move, hahahahaha. All I could remember is that I took forever to figure out that that ability was the key to defeating that one boss who was impossible to beat and kept jumping at me (basicaly like all bosses, omly this dude died from 2 top spins, I vaguely remember him being a ninja but I might be wrong)

 

[Neo Zero]

Thatd be Shadow Man my good sir, who coincidentally I feel is one of the hardest robot masters buster only period

 

[Z1GMA]

On the note of the last one, I kind of doubt it. Mega Man enters a unique animation until the apex of his jump. We also have two different up bs we've seen, one that enters free fall and one that doesn't. He might not be able to shoot on the way down.

Well, we simply have to wait and see how it turns out in the end.

I really hope MM can shoot while up+b'ing.

 

[Neo Zero]

Well, we simply have to wait and see how it turns out in the end.

I really hope MM can shoot while up+b'ing.

Given its (quite frankly) identical properties of Sonic's Up B, it is very well possible.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

I really don't like the idea of the Leaf Shield. I don't know why.

 

[Neo Zero]

I really don't like the idea of the Leaf Shield. I don't know why.

Life cant always be diamonds and jewels, sometimes you gotta get back to your roots.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

Life cant always be diamonds and jewels, sometimes you gotta get back to your roots.

Leaf. Roots. HA!
But seriously, I see your point. I just feel like it should be a weapon switch like in Megaman's own games. That way he gets more use from his Neutral Special. Not that there's anything WRONG with the Metal Blades, but the way I see it, the Neutral Special should always be the most iconic move of the person. But I don't think of JUST the Metal Blades when I think of Megaman. I think of Weapon Switching and strategically using them.

 

[Knight Dude]

Leaf. Roots. HA!
But seriously, I see your point. I just feel like it should be a weapon switch like in Megaman's own games. That way he gets more use from his Neutral Special. Not that there's anything WRONG with the Metal Blades, but the way I see it, the Neutral Special should always be the most iconic move of the person. But I don't think of JUST the Metal Blades when I think of Megaman. I think of Weapon Switching and strategically using them.

Yeah, I can see what you mean when it comes to the Metal Blades. I personally think that the Mega-Buster/Charge combo shot still could've been his Neutral B attack. While he uses some punches and kicks from MvC as his AAA combo Still I do like his moveset overrall. But I do like the Leaf Shield as the Down-B. The shield weapons are some of my favorite weapons in the classic series.

 

[Yoichi Hiruma]

Yeah, I can see what you mean when it comes to the Metal Blades. I personally think that the Mega-Buster/Charge combo shot still could've been his Neutral B attack. While he uses some punches and kicks from MvC as his AAA combo Still I do like his moveset overrall. But I do like the Leaf Shield as the Down-B. The shield weapons are some of my favorite weapons in the classic series.

I'd have preferred Fire Man's Fire Shield. It's a shield, AND a projectile, and one of the most classic of the weapons, straight from the first game.

 

[Knight Dude]

I'd have preferred Fire Man's Fire Shield. It's a shield, AND a projectile, and one of the most classic of the weapons, straight from the first game.

Hmm. Fire Shield is cool too. Though if I had to pick a Shield Weapon, I'd go with The Jewel Satellite. That thing really strong, taking out most weaker enemies just by running into them. It's almost as good as Megaman X1's Rolling Shield.