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Warlock Punch doing more damage in the air then on ground? *CONFIRMED*

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litlwing

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Ok, Ive not had a chance to experiment with this alot, but I noticed that when I performed a warlock punch on snake IN MID-AIR it did more damage then had it been on the ground, I never tested it reversed either (so i could potentially do more damage with a reverse flying warlock punch).

Im curious if some one can confirm this, I found it while doing Ganons super jump or flight of ganon or whatever that things is called. Im not sure if it was because it was in air or if it was because Ganon was smashing snakes face in.

Does Captain Falcon's falcon punch do more damage in the air? considering his is more viable.

Also if what ever I did was some freak accident and I am just confused for lord knows what reason, correct me.

I havent found anything on this personally, but if it has been explored, I am sorry.
 
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As far as i know, it doesnt do more damage in the air.... but im only like 80% sure of that, i could be wrong


i know a reverse Gpunch does more dmg 36% i think.. and a reg Gpunch does a couple % less

only ONCE have i had the Gpunch do 37% dmg and i basicly landed right on top of wolf that was at 0% and he went backwards and was unable to recover, that is in my video but its a very short clip i dont have time to get the exact time its at, and i think its pretty far in...

i havent looked into the 37% Gpunch, i havent been able to do it again..maybe someone else knows more info on that..
 
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It didn't do 37 percent. It did the exact same amount as always. Brawl carries fractions of a percentage, and Warlock Punch probably isn't a round number percentage, so its fraction and the fraction on the overall percentage of your opponent made it look like the move did an extra percentage.
 
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well, the reason this is a big deal, at least it looks like one (still not huge lol) but the flying warlock punch appeared to do like 35-36% without being reversed. and on the ground I think it did 32-33% I encourage people to try this, and pay attention to the damage, making sure to keep the move fresh all that good stuff.
 
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I'll eff around later when I'm training just because I'm curious, but I have to point out the tragic flaw in this post: you're talking about Ganon's worst move.
 
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hyperstation said:
I'll eff around later when I'm training just because I'm curious, but I have to point out the tragic flaw in this post: you're talking about Ganon's worst move.
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Doesn't hurt to get even the slightest of knowledge of something, it may become useful.
 
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litlwing said:
well, the reason this is a big deal, at least it looks like one (still not huge lol) but the flying warlock punch appeared to do like 35-36% without being reversed. and on the ground I think it did 32-33% I encourage people to try this, and pay attention to the damage, making sure to keep the move fresh all that good stuff.
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Maybe I'm missing something but last time I checked: landing a Murder Punch is not a move that Ganon uses for damage considerations.

I don't know about your Ganon play style but I use Murder Punch maybe once every three games (competitive singles) I play. Last thing on my mind EVER is to throw a Murder Punch at my opponent unless its for a rare edge guard opportunity (where F-Smash is the better option anyways). After watching @home's new Ganon vid, I have gained a little more respect for mixing the move into my play (very minimal however) but thats besides the point. Not to be mean, but who the hell cares if you can do 2-3% more damage with a move that is used on a scale of practically never and solely for lucky/entertaining KO shots? :confused:
 
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Just to clear the air:

The OP is right.

Aerial Warlock Punch = 35%.
Reverse Aerial Warlock Punch = 38%

Method of input: FoG -> (Reverse) Warlock Punch

I should mention that I got 43% the first time I got the Reverse Aerial Warlock Punch, but was unable to reproduce it. This lead me to believe that my opponent in training had some residual damage from somewhere, but I'm not sure where 5% comes from. Unless he had 10% and I actually landed a grounded reverse Warlock Punch for 35%. Whatever, it doesn't really matter.
 
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Did nobody read Flying Dutchman's old sig? The one about how getting Punched in midair makes you lose 3 stocks and your controller explodes?

Yeah, we knew it was stronger.
 
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hyperstation said:
It didn't do 37 percent. It did the exact same amount as always. Brawl carries fractions of a percentage, and Warlock Punch probably isn't a round number percentage, so its fraction and the fraction on the overall percentage of your opponent made it look like the move did an extra percentage.
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Hmm.. i didnt know that.. weird

ill take a look at the video again and see if i can tell whats going on
 
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ha, so its true, thats weird, but yeah i realize that this move really is not much of a move to try to land, (let alone in mid air) and of course people dont survive past 20% hardly anyway, but the point is...

*IMPORTANT PART*
does this apply to other characters special moves? if so then it might have bigger uses then with just Ganon, OR it isnt much at all, but that is a decent boost in damage, what if it could be applied to a more practical move.

But its not like this is a Game breaking discovery ha, i just thought it was interesting and neat.
 
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Hey guys, this is the best unassisted kill move in the game. Assissted = counter or bucket or reflect. Ike's nearly fully charged eruption kills Mario in training on FD at 10%. This does 7%. The regular reverse Punch is at 20% or so.

Holy ****.
 
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Twilight_Prince said:
Hey guys, this is the best unassisted kill move in the game. Assissted = counter or bucket or reflect. Ike's nearly fully charged eruption kills Mario in training on FD at 10%. This does 7%. The regular reverse Punch is at 20% or so.

Holy ****.
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Amen to that, Brother!

Please Lord Sakurai, double the knockback and damge and make all lag on the move 2 frames.

*Goes and bribes*

In all seriousness, it's not because of the major, world-class start-up, the highest on any special in the game. Confirm me if I am wrong.
 
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I still kinda wish Ganon had like a projectile in place of warlock punch, that would help him SO much its not even funny, hed be able to actually bait people in, but alas, Ganon must settle for the attack that killed the dinosaurs and when it came into contact with the falcon punch, it bore Chuck Norris.

not TO bad if i do say so myself
 
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Woah really! More damage? That's amazing!

Wait... what's that? Warlock Punch? Awww... Well, it's the coolest, most epic, and most damaging taunt ever then! Take that Luigi!
 
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fromundaman said:
Woah really! More damage? That's amazing!

Wait... what's that? Warlock Punch? Awww... Well, it's the coolest, most epic, and most damaging taunt ever then! Take that Luigi!
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[my opinion]
The more power, the more you have to read your opponent. If perfectly read, the opponent will have a punch in their face. Knowing this, the enemy will spend much time fearing to be read, thus being easier to read. Having the warlock punch is a fear factor, even if it isn't used.
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Hmm... so wait I'm uninformed how much damage does Warlock Punch do in all the different circumstances....? All I know is 32% and 35% reversed on the rgound normally.
 
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Rkey, in most chances, opponents aren't really going to be fearing it unless you already landed one, since on general principle, Warlock Punch doesn't hit.
 
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