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want CLOUD STRIFE in brawl? official thread.

Thrillhouse-vh.

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The hell it was. FFVIII is the worst Final Fantasy game, all the boss battles were the same, all you did was summon and heal and then summon some more unless you wanted to take the easy way out by using Lionheart. Also the Junction system was the ****iest thing they have ever put into a FF game. Everyone I know hated that game except for the females.
You want crappy game play? You want crappy junction system? You want monotounes gameplay? You want hot females? Play FFX-2, the single WORST FF game to ever come into the world, hands down. That game sucks so much, it isn't even funny. FFVII-Dirge of Cerberus was pretty bad too.
 

LeonVII

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FF8 is pure ****. I hated Leon's emo ***(that's not where i got my name). The summons are cool in any game, but when you have to waste your ****** life to level up your character high enough so that you don't use summons, that's the point where any game turns into crap.
 

Maverick69

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god, dont remind me of X-2. that game sucked hard. why did my hormones drive me to buy that piece of drivel.
anyway, lets get back on topic: cloud FTW.
also, FF VIII was better than VII, but remember: FF 7 was the best FOR ITS TIME. same thing with mario, link, and any other old game character. thats like saying WW was better then OOT. yeah, it was, but OOT was great FOR ITS TIME.
Actually I would still highly prefer to play OOT over WW. Like.. right now. if you gave me the choice, i'd say OOT. But then again I think OOT is the best game ever.... so w/e.

And yes, I'll admit 7 was good when it came out. I even used to like it. But all the hype and fanboys and exaggeration made me hate it. I just dont think it deservers as much praise as it gets.

Also his name is SQUALL. not leon. get it right. KH ruined him lol. And squall was no more emo than cloud.

Cloud: " I used to think he was my friend. but he burned down my village. and he killed some girl who sold me flowers wahhhh. I have to stop him"

Squall: " A girl left me when I was young. Now I dont talk much"

Squall isnt emo. Yes he was sad when ellone left. But he was also like 8 years old. when he gets older he is just quiet and doesnt like anyone. it's not like he's some crybaby.

And 8 had the best characters ever! Zell and Irvine!
 

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No. And the best RPG character of all time? Go take a toaster bath.

( TOASTER BATH

1.) Fill tub with water. Tepid to scalding water.
2.) Obtain electric toaster.
3.) Plug toaster in.
4.) Turn toaster on.
5.) Throw toaster in tub.
6.) Jump into tub.)
 

Seth'White Fox'

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Listlen, no FF fan has the right to call another FF fans faveorite character a emo. EVERY FF CHARACTER IS EMO. I love Final Fantasy, even tho I haven't played them all. I have played: 1, 2 ,American 3, Jappinise 3(Computer), I'm going to get 3 for the DS, 7 (Duh, it IS my fave.), 10, 11, CC, and the one and two remake for the gba. All of the Characters are major pill popping emos! ( What do you think is in the healing potions, huh?)

Also no matter which one is the best FF7 is the most recongised, I belive that every FF fan can agree to that, and if you can't than you dont know that theres a FF7 anime, FF7 movie, a FF7 cell phone game, a FF7 FPS, the orignal game, and although Square-enix has stated that it is only a tech demo everyone know the orignal is going to be remade on PS3.

That is most likely why there are so many Cloud haters, but I degress.

I'm not saying one is better than the other, but what I am saying is Cloud has the biggest chance of any of them. Even tho that chance is still MASSIVELY miniscule. XD oxymorn, i'll end my rant with that.

PS I do not promote Cloud for SSBB, but just want to give reasons to fans so all hope is not lost.

PPS I do however promote Cloud for SSB: 4.*drolls*
 

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FF7 is also being remade for the PSP but since the PSP was such a flop i couldn't care i will wait til it comes out for PS3.... and i couldn't care if it has updated graphics or not... but just the fact that it will be FF7 i will buy it... FF7 was way better then FF8... i personally think that FF9 was crap... crap i tell u crap.... it had a horrible storyline and was just irratating to me to play.... but if u think that Clouds sword was too long then maybe u should check out the most evil villian Square has every created Sephiroth.... now that sword is like a million times longer then clouds (hyperbole)
 

Thrillhouse-vh.

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It's apperant that the whole "best FF ever" argument is just a war of opinions that's going nowhere fast. Sooner or later, we'll just be throwing out flames and attacking everyone in our own defense. who cares what the best FF ever is, this thread is for CLOUD, let's leave it at that.

anyways, Seth 'white fox' hit the nail on the head, AGAIN!
 

tirkaro

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actualy, cloud will have to be on a nintendo system sooner ot later. because square is remaking all of the FF games for the GBA/DS, its going to be soon that we see a DS relese of FF7
 

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All the Final Fantasy games have been remade I - IV, and with the announcement of remaking V and VI, we'll just have to wait and see what Square and Nintendo plans to do when they hit VII.

He was in Chain of Memories...it counts a little bit.
 

SSJ4Kazuki

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Yeah, Tidus was pretty emo. BUT:

I'd prefer Tidus over Cloud ANYDAY.

There'd be an awesome stage on top of Cid's airship with Sin in the background firing sinspawn
onto the deck that run about and attack, and the airship itself could also fire Samus-style homing ones.
 

The Bino

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I'd prefer Tidus over Cloud ANYDAY.

DUDE yo i ain't tryin to bash u or flame u but if u actually have seen how Tidus was and how Cloud was... there is a HUGE DIFFERNCE.... Cloud is THE MAN.... noone from FF8-11 has the potential to even daydream of reaching the status that Cloud has obtained.... Cloud was by far way better then Tidus... i suggest to go replay FF7 and pay attention to the storyline and see how Cloud was and his reactions and the ENEMY HE HAD TO FACE..... Sin was a piece of crap, he was a blob of crap that threw out some lil fish at you to try to kill u.... i personally think that Cloud oversees all......

This is IMO... i just don't think Squall, Tidus, whatever the main in 9 is actually called, and same thing with 11.... i think that 9 was crap, and the same thing with X-2, and 11.... and the way that they have changed the battle system for 12, it is just like an upgraded Zelda game... IMO i wouldn't even dare to get into or try 12 since they changed the battle system, and that was the best system they had goin... IMO
 

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BarBino, its that kind of severe Fanboyism that makes Cloud haters hate Cloud. You don't just say: "BLANK charcter rules and BLANK charcter sucks. EXPECALLY sence you didn't give reasons. Also to not play a game beceause its different has to be the dumbest reason I've ever heard. Kindgom Hearts, Disney charcters plus Final Fantsay charcters? Sounds TERRIABLE. Don't shoot something down before you at least get a chance to try it.
 

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DUDE yo i ain't tryin to bash u or flame u but if u actually have seen how Tidus was and how Cloud was... there is a HUGE DIFFERNCE.... Cloud is THE MAN.... noone from FF8-11 has the potential to even daydream of reaching the status that Cloud has obtained.... Cloud was by far way better then Cloud... i suggest to go replay FF7 and pay attention to the storyline and see how Cloud was and his reactions and the ENEMY HE HAD TO FACE..... Sin was a piece of crap, he was a blob of crap that threw out some lil fish at you to try to kill u.... i personally think that Cloud oversees all......

This is IMO... i just don't think Squall, Tidus, whatever the main in 9 is actually called, and same thing with 11.... i think that 9 was crap, and the same thing with X-2, and 11.... and the way that they have changed the battle system for 12, it is just like an upgraded Zelda game... IMO i wouldn't even dare to get into or try 12 since they changed the battle system, and that was the best system they had goin... IMO
This is why people hate FF7 fanboys. And BTW, XII uses the BEST battle system I have seen in any RPG.

Also: XII is my new favorite FF game, but I still hold VIII and VII very dear to my heart :)
 

Maverick69

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DUDE yo i ain't tryin to bash u or flame u but if u actually have seen how Tidus was and how Cloud was... there is a HUGE DIFFERNCE.... Cloud is THE MAN.... noone from FF8-11 has the potential to even daydream of reaching the status that Cloud has obtained.... Cloud was by far way better then Cloud... i suggest to go replay FF7 and pay attention to the storyline and see how Cloud was and his reactions and the ENEMY HE HAD TO FACE..... Sin was a piece of crap, he was a blob of crap that threw out some lil fish at you to try to kill u.... i personally think that Cloud oversees all......

This is IMO... i just don't think Squall, Tidus, whatever the main in 9 is actually called, and same thing with 11.... i think that 9 was crap, and the same thing with X-2, and 11.... and the way that they have changed the battle system for 12, it is just like an upgraded Zelda game... IMO i wouldn't even dare to get into or try 12 since they changed the battle system, and that was the best system they had goin... IMO
thank you for defining annoying FF fanboys for the n00bs in the crowd.

Cloud isnt that great. and neither is "the enemy he had to face." Sephiroth did NOTHING. oh god, aeris is dead. big whoop. he hides in a cave the whole game.

Sin may have been a kind of lame enemy but he destroyed entire civilizations. multiple times. and was an evil force for over a thousand years.

Kuja was girly and wore a thong lol. but he blew up cities and his own home planet.

as for the heros.

Cloud just mourned aeris the whole time. his poor flower girl that he just met.

Zidane... iono. he was kinda cool. little monkey guy. he was entertaining at least.

Squall was awesome. I dont care what you say.

It doesnt matter. you need to play the freakin classics. IV-VI ftw. go faris.

all of the above is IMO

and the gunblade is much cooler than the buster sword. Fact.
 

Seth'White Fox'

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I agree thank you for defineing annoying FF7 fanboys for everybody, but Id also like to thank Dantedemonslayr for defineing anoying FF7 Haters for everybody. You completly overlooked sevral major points in FF7.

Also you've mis calculated a bit lemme fix that:
Gunblade>Buster Sword
Gunblabe DOES NOT>7 Edge
Now thats a correct fact. I even showed my work.
 

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Aight to everyone that calls me a FF7 fanboy.... u say wha u want... I absolutely used to hate ALL RPG GAMES.. until one day my friend told me to play FF7 (this is back in 2003), I played it and i honestly didn't like it in the beginning... i thought it was crap... i played it some more since all my friends told me bout the first 2-3 hrs wasn't that exciting... i continued and then the storyline picked up to something that was something that i wasn't expecting at all... i can absolutely agree 100% with wha SquareSoft had said bout the game.... that it was the only game that brings tears to ur eyes.... b/c of wha happened... it was unexpected (i mean it was expected that it would happen, but not that fast, and not the way it did happen)... and that is wha made that game grab me into it and lose a massive amount of my time and made my grades in school drop a lot...

Then i played FF8 afterwards, and i will admit that FF8 would be the 2nd best storyline i thought back in 2003.... (remember i never played any of the other FF games) and the better thing that FF8 had over FF7 (besides updated graphics) was some of the overdrives that they had... like LionHeart was basically OmniSlash with more hits, and u could add more damage if u had the timing down on the Gun Sword.... so yea the Gun Sword was a nice addition IMO

But i have recently played FF1 & FF2, I plan on playing FF3 when it is rereleased... and I have to hunt for FF4-FF6.... and i refuse to play FF11 due to the fact that it is crap, and u can only play it online (horrible idea IMO) ... and I personally think that FF1 & FF2 are up there on GREAT GAMES... I would rank Final Fantasy Games as this:

1 - FF7
2 - FF8
3 - FF1
4 - FF2
5 - FFX

These are the games that i have played and that are great.. FFX was mediocre, they added voices, but it was horrible in English, they should've given an option to have *** voices and English Subtitles, the music was a good thing.... summoning the GFs was a nice addition, it gave more then FF8 gave as of summoning them... and u were able to control em... I would have to say the best thing that FF has introduced to us was the Materia.. that was GENIUS IMO.... but i would say that the storyline for FF9 was horrible... i played it for 5 hours and was a complete was of my time... too childish for my taste...

^This is all IMO
 

Maverick69

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I agree thank you for defineing annoying FF7 fanboys for everybody, but Id also like to thank Dantedemonslayr for defineing anoying FF7 Haters for everybody. You completly overlooked sevral major points in FF7.

Also you've mis calculated a bit lemme fix that:
Gunblade>Buster Sword
Gunblabe DOES NOT>7 Edge
Now thats a correct fact. I even showed my work.
Gunblade > Buster Sword
Gunblade IS not > 7edge
however
Lionheart > All

lol

I fixed your grammar too
 

LemonManX

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Cloud was awesome, and my favourite FF hero... just because he mourned Aeris the whole game doesn't take away from him.

Squall was annoying, seriously he annoyed the hell out of me with his personality, they slightly salvaged him in KH but in FF-VIII he was terrible.

And as for Zidane... well I can't say much as I got far too bored with FF-IX to get to the end (I'm terribly close but I can't justify finishing it)

Buster Sword > Gunblade
 

Maverick69

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Cloud was awesome, and my favourite FF hero... just because he mourned Aeris the whole game doesn't take away from him.

Squall was annoying, seriously he annoyed the hell out of me with his personality, they slightly salvaged him in KH but in FF-VIII he was terrible.

And as for Zidane... well I can't say much as I got far too bored with FF-IX to get to the end (I'm terribly close but I can't justify finishing it)

Buster Sword > Gunblade
they made him worse in KH!!! he was annoying.

and the gunblade is better. a big pointy blade with a gunhandle vs a butter knife.

gunblade wins
 
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