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[#HBC | Laundry]

I don't understand why Mafia wouldn't Roleblock Red Ryu. I don't believe that PJB is in any form clear and I feel that the smart idea from a mafia perspective would to either kill Ryu or try and recruit the traitor.

MP, you're still openly confident about RR still being suspectible. Why? Do you think Rake would hard-bus Ryu? Isn't Ryu clear without being Uncc'd here? Why are you still fighting this?

soup doesn't remember pulp fiction maf

pffhehehehe

No but really I kinda see where he's coming from here but in the same breath I don't really know what you plan to draw from that. There's three scenarios that I can see going on here:
-Ruy is telling the truth and his target, PJB, was the shot that night. In this scenario, scum did not roleblock the only town PR left in the game.
-Ruy is telling the truth but his target, PJB, was not the shot that night and scum managed to discover the traitor.
-Ruy is not telling the truth and he actually is a VT/Traitor that the doc let live because he thought he was town and was subsequently protected from the shot that night after successfully lynching scum.

Actually, four:
-Scum elected not to kill.

Either way, Ruy is alive (surprise surprise). This does create a plethora of problems but for now, I do believe Ruy was telling the truth.

vote: KGB

Shameless prod-dodger and we have a little room to breath tomorrow even if he doesn't flip scum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

1 mafia one-shot Roleblocker

In which soup reads OP. They could have not RB'd RR for that sake, seeing it was kind of pointless. Even if they did he could just claim to be on PJB and got RB'd, so the point is kind of moot. The reason I asked that is that I think MP wants to say something but he's being incredibly dodgy about it. To suspect RR at this point is to imply he wants to either a) counter-claim or b) is actually crazy enough to think an uncc'd PR could be scum. I feel he's been dropping hints about it and he refuses to speak up. However, this is speculation and I don't know why he won't just say something if that's the case. Regardless, I'll let NAR work this out. I'm not against lynching KGB at all and I was probably going to lean that way eventually. I feel WL's interaction with Rake is considerably fishy as he had this weird vibe about him where he begun to suspect and think about him but then he ultimately swallowed his pride in the end for not really any reason at all. I think if KGB is town or mafia, it implies the possibility either way. Those are my current thoughts.

I'll stop talking now and do what everyone is waiting for.

Vote: KGB

That should be hammer.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

8 alive, 5 to lynch.

unvote

I want his words first.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hey Ruy, Who do you think Traitor could be? I know it's a can of worms I'm opening up but what do you think happened yesterday? Why didn't scum kill you? Did scum really try and shoot PJB?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

You're lynched FML. Last words, etc. Vinyl is either at this point scum or going to be the sole reason for a town-loss. I'll take my chances.

Still grabbing this quote because it sticks out like a sore thumb and I can't make heads or tails of why the hell soup would say this.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Vinyl.'s play is incredibly unsettling and he offers no substance at all and I find it incredibly hard to deal with him. I'm still trying to think if he could be Mafia, or just plain anti-town in every sense of the word.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

A part of me thinks FML was just trying to find a scapegoat with Vinyl., as he could have easily just voted KGB too who I don't believe he was ever in disagreement with. It's part of the reason why I'm voting him, along with the fact KGB kept asking things like 'why is FML mafia?' yet never really addressed as to why he was asking it. Noob scum distancing to me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Vote: Red Ryu

Time's running out. We need to do something.

Also, this vote just genuinely sucks. I don't think RR is mafia by the way, but I still can't wrap my head around what the **** MP is thinking.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

A part of me thinks FML was just trying to find a scapegoat with Vinyl., as he could have easily just voted KGB too who I don't believe he was ever in disagreement with. It's part of the reason why I'm voting him, along with the fact KGB kept asking things like 'why is FML mafia?' yet never really addressed as to why he was asking it. Noob scum distancing to me.

I noticed that on a quick reread. Nothing he posted sits well in hindsight of an FML flip.

Ruy you're probably not gonna get words from him.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Also, this vote just genuinely sucks. I don't think RR is mafia by the way, but I still can't wrap my head around what the **** MP is thinking.

he talked about it yesterday, the wifom pot that scum can make by leaving a claimed doc alive.

again, he's not very experienced so i have to imagine that a lot of what he knows is theoretical and nothing more.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Unvote FullMetalLynch

Vote Red Ryu

Seriously. What the **** kind of game is MP playing right now.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

All the light bulbs in my head are leaning towards MP/KGB having scum in them. But..would MP still fight this? Would he openly do this even though it makes him look terrible considering the position he's putting himself in? He didn't seem that stupid, which makes me less confident on him. His actions to vote RR there are suggestive and I don't even recall why he was voting FML in the first place. It was also at this time that Ruy was at L-2, which doesn't look good either. There's a possibility that MP is just trying to appear consistent with his Ruy suspicion and biting the bullet in a sense to look townier.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Umm, guys, why are you harping on the fact that they didn't roleblock ryu so they could kill me, or whatever? That's not a possibility for them, because the last scum is alone. He's the roleblocker, and he can't roleblock and nightkill at the same time. The only other scum is the traitor, and the traitor cannot assist with either of those tasks.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Umm, guys, why are you harping on the fact that they didn't roleblock ryu so they could kill me, or whatever? That's not a possibility for them, because the last scum is alone. He's the roleblocker, and he can't roleblock and nightkill at the same time. The only other scum is the traitor, and the traitor cannot assist with either of those tasks.

Roleblocker can't?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Hey Ruy, Who do you think Traitor could be? I know it's a can of worms I'm opening up but what do you think happened yesterday? Why didn't scum kill you? Did scum really try and shoot PJB?

You first, I asked you this and you keep dancing around it.

I'm not bothered by MP, he has reasoning I don't agree with to switch but I can see town doing that.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I honestly can't tell you currently. I think Joey is possible.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Roleblocker can't?

Well, I dunno it for sure for this setup, but you usually can't take 2 actions at night. One man, as the roleblocker, probably can't roleblock and nightkill at the same time. If there was 2 of them (there's not) they could do it, but they can't. That's what I would assume is the case.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It's an open set-up

@Mod: Can mafia perform a Roleblock and a night kill with the same person?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I honestly can't tell you currently. I think Joey is possible.

I'll tell you now I still want Keyblade dead bad, his D2 is really bad when he did post, never tried to address questions to himself and never tried to make himself accountable.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I'm actually ok with KBG getting offed. He's on the same level as Vinyl, except that FML was cool with swinging to Vinyl yesterday.

Vote: KeybladeGuy

dude, GET IN HERE AND PLAY THIS GAME

 

[Dooms]

I'm not a fan of KBG's disappearance, but I don't think that really incriminates him. It screams person that was v/la forever and didn't catch up when he got back from vacation, so he's just throwing votes where it seems like the town needed it to progress the game. While I understand wanting to lynch him for it, I personally don't see a reason to besides the odd vote and the fact that he's pretty much a hard-core null read for everyone that isn't completely upset about that vote and his day-two play.

Where did you get that information from, PJB? I don't remember seeing that anywhere, so I'm inclined to doubt that it's true.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

It's an open set-up

@Mod: Can mafia perform a Roleblock and a night kill with the same person?

Mafia can totally perform two actions on one Night.

So yes, the roleblocker can both roleblock and kill the same Night.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

KBG is replacing out due to extremely limited internet access. Searching for a replacement now.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Umm, guys, why are you harping on the fact that they didn't roleblock ryu so they could kill me, or whatever? That's not a possibility for them, because the last scum is alone. He's the roleblocker, and he can't roleblock and nightkill at the same time. The only other scum is the traitor, and the traitor cannot assist with either of those tasks.

Didn't realize it was one-shot so I thought it was just kind of an automatic thing.

Also is that confirmed in the OP? That's not a consistent rule across all games (certainly isn't in mine and EnA mafia also was similar in that regard).

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Mafia can totally perform two actions on one Night.

So yes, the roleblocker can both roleblock and kill the same Night.

In this case, I have no idea what they were doing.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: Keyblade

In that case I don't care, being down the hammer.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

If keybladeguy was the last mafia, it might even make sense that he didn't send in a kill at all.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Just hammer, saves Swords the trouble and we get rid of a scummy slot.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

I think that was hammer.

Let me check.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Vote Count​

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1. PB+J​

2. Vinyl.​

3. -Masquerain-​

4. Red Ryu ​

5. soup​

6. Missing Person​

7. Keybladeguy (5) - Vinyl., WL, soup, PB+J, RR​

8. Washedlaundry ​

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Not voting: Joey, MP, KBG

A lynch has been reached! Flip incoming.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Keybladeguy (Zen's Funky German Disco Theme Song, Communist One-Shot Roleblocker), has been lynched!

It is now Night 3! Please send in all actions by 10/03/13 at 11:59 pm EST.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

The song, btw.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Whoo **** forgot about this.

Day 4 starts, no one dies.

Deadline is the 10/14/13 at 11:59pm EST.

It takes four to lynch.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Alright, town basically has this in the bag right now. Ruy is town. I was skeptical of PJB, but he's also town because of Ruy's doc claim, and I don't think he was RB'd the night before either. I don't understand why scum wouldn't attempt to kill someone, considering there's a huge numbers game against them. I'm gonna assume that PJB is clear of traitor for that reason, and scum for that matter.

I think Washed's theory on MP just being a bit scatterbrained with regards to Ruy's doc claim makes sense, so I don't think he's traitor either, and I wouldn't lynch him today.

So, that leaves WL, Vinyl, and Joey. I was already pretty skeptical of how WL handled Rake, and I honestly think that's where I'm gonna look today. I absolutely hate Vinyl.'s play but **** me if I'm gonna get anything out of him. I might read Joey a bit more too.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm probably gonna be playing this game myself again, aren't I? Oh well.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I kinda like WL in the sense based on re-read that he's really earnest and well, he seems genuinely believable. I tried reading further into his arguments about Rake and if he somehow contradicted his stance in there somewhere but he was really stubborn in a good way about it. The only thing I'm worried about is how he just dropped everything and just voted FML, but seeing how Ruy was the other option and he's not stupid to hammered an uncc'd PR, not even to take a bullet. In that light, it's not as important as I want it to be. I don't recall WL's meta to a tee and I doubt I'll go to that length.

I'll read Joey later but I really did like him earlier on, but now he's kinda dissipated into the background.

And then, only Vinyl. was left. I'm about to throw my hands up in the air at this point because nothing is salvageable about Vinyl. and he will not be a help in any later phases. Here's to taking chances.

Vote: Vinyl.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Interesting, more later.

 

[Dooms]

Can the traitor kill if he wasn't recruited? If the traitor wasn't recruited, then it seems like we're good to go.

We can lynch off the question marks 1 by 1 until we have 4 players left.

PJB isn't confirmed town. Protect stops the kill, so he couldn't be recruited that night if he was the traitor.

Makes me believe that traitor wasn't recruited and KBG simply forgot to send in a kill honestly.

I'm just spewing stuff at this point but all of this needs to be considered regardless of how not certain it is lol.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Can the traitor kill if he wasn't recruited? If the traitor wasn't recruited, then it seems like we're good to go.

We can lynch off the question marks 1 by 1 until we have 4 players left.

PJB isn't confirmed town. Protect stops the kill, so he couldn't be recruited that night if he was the traitor.

If all of this was true, why the hell would I lead the lynch on FML, and then quicklynch KBG?

 

[Dooms]

"confirmed"

I still think you're town, but definitely not "confirmed" through mechanics .