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[#HBC | ѕoup]

Rake you posted this



Could you tell me why Dabuz was your pick, along with me? Is it a connection thing? I think I've openly stated dislike about dabuns a couple of times now.

You still need to answer this.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

im fine withneither of those two, or maybe even mp but prolly vinyl and kbg first. vinyl before others based on past experiances and his refusal to work with anyone.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

im fine withneither of those two

why

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Again. You're stating that you dislike me, even enough to say that you want to lynch me, but..



You went forward with Ryu instead. Why? I don't get this love-hate relationship on me. You need to stop dodging me by making excuses such as you being scatterbrained, because I don't believe it's the case. You're coherent about some things yet you're almost vague about others. The other in this case being the read on me. It feels as if you're putting me on the backburner only for the sake of trying to look consistent, without having the guts to actually push me.

I told Orbo Ryu was the priority essentially. Really wasnt' a fan of Dabunz D1, especially after crashboards came back up and i re-read the whole game. I put you on the backburner because of this like I've said, that and your slot not being here made it not worth the time.

As to your earlier question, I actually find/found you and moreso Ryu/Dabuz questionable individually, your and his connections didn't truly ring as connectionary or amazingly groundbreaking in terms of tells I thought were going round and thats still something I'm sidelong exploring but it doesn't seem to hold any real fruit, but that kind of also plays into why I don't find you as appealing as Ryu. I think your play has done more in terms of me going : you know, I need to keep exploring this because...and then going back to figure it out

But with Ryu it's like: wow this is exactly how I feel and I dont see a second way about it atm.

And if it wasn't obvious, the feels i got on him were the scummy ones

 

[Capybara Gaming]

A. What is wrong with FML?
B. I said that something was awkward about RR. I just don't know what. I was acting on instinct there.
C. RR why in hell would you out that? No you almost positive to die tonight.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

So much posting my god

 

[FullMetalLynch]

why

with either* hit the n instead of space by accident. ryu, then if i cant get him vimyl, then kbg</= mp because rake has an guttown feeling on kgb

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

A. What is wrong with FML?
B. I said that something was awkward about RR. I just don't know what. I was acting on instinct there.
C. RR why in hell would you out that? No you almost positive to die tonight.

Because I'd rather eat a bullet from scum than be ML'd on a hasty game where we may have not gotten an extension because inactives/intentional inactivity is awful.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

ryu compromise vinyl and kbg lynchlynch today?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

^ Extremely ironic he was pushing our hasty lynch

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I really find it a tad humorous when people tell me my D1 was bad they can't even elaborate what was so bad about it *cough* Ryu *cough*

When I'm not scripting a website I'll get to that.

Also wasn't my priority at the time.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

dammit orbo you ninja

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Ryu: Off topic, what are your scripting, the layout ?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

ryu compromise vinyl and kbg lynchlynch today?

Maybe Vinyl, because I don't tolerate Glyph style of shameless coasting in any game.

But no on the other, I still want you dead.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ryu: Off topic, what are your scripting, the layout ?

Front page and layout.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Oh man that sounds sexy as fork.

HTML ? PHP ? Ruby (by god if it's this language i'll lose my **** ).

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

HTML, I know Ruby as well but this is HTML work.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Lucky man.

closest i've seen to real web code of late was this monstrous amalgamation of HTML /C# / ASP that made me tear my hair out lol.

 

[Missing Person]

FML I'll get back to you on your rebuttal.

Right now we have an interesting predicament.

GM: Can medic protect themselves in this game?

Either way, I think we're at a moot situation with RR now. If we lynch him today, and he's who he claims he is, we're getting no medic protection tonight. If we don't, we get protection, but if he can't protect himself, then mafia goes with the obvious kill and we garner no information tonight. If he dies today as medic, then mafia has to kill someone else which we can use to glean information from.

If he dies as mafia by our hands, then we're up one, woot, EVERYDAY I'M SHUFFLIN and all that. If he doesn't die today, and doesn't die tonight either, then most likely he's FOS and we have to lynch him D3.

I've got a class to teach in 2 minutes. I'll come back to announce if I'm officially changing my vote or not. Will depend on if anything else is said for or against RR when I get back.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Scum still has a one shot roleblock that they most likely didn't use since D1 would have been a crap shoot. So I can be roleblocked.

No I cannot protect myself in this game, I think that's ludicrous as a game mod but w/e.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Lucky man.

closest i've seen to real web code of late was this monstrous amalgamation of HTML /C# / ASP that made me tear my hair out lol.

I'll chat about this elsewhere just to not clutter the thread.

 

[Missing Person]

Okay, that's fair for your case, but what other roles do we have out that would be highly detrimental to the mafia plan?

They would have to weigh the risk/reward of wasting the roleblock on you tonight to keep you alive one more night versus using that roleblock later on a role that could do more damage to them in the endgame.

The roles out makes my decision dependent on that. It may be worth it to keep you in, if you're telling the truth on your roleclaim, just to make the mafia's decision in N2 harder. If we lynch you today, with that roleblock that's probably still unused, we just made their end game a little more linear. If it's linear, then we're not going to be able to glean as much info from it.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

the only other town pr in this game died n1.
honestly eith the inactivity in this game im leaning towards lynching him anyways because we might not get a cc if there is one.

 

[Missing Person]

So either way, it's non-linear for Mafia at night, because if I'm reading the OP right, there's only 2 civ roles, the rest are roleless.

So honestly, I think our best chance today is to lynch RR to test his role-claim. If he is who he says he is, then he was dead/useless at night anyway. If he is mafia, then we got one on a bad roleclaim, and our medic is still in hiding. If he's roleless civ, then we've only narrowed the mafia's likelihood of hitting the real medic slightly.

Unvote FullMetalLynch
Vote Red Ryu

But my eyes will come back your way to figure out you, FML, come next day phase, regardless of Red Ryu's alignment.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Ryu is at L1

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

the only other town pr in this game died n1.
honestly eith the inactivity in this game im leaning towards lynching him anyways because we might not get a cc if there is one.

That's really ****ty logic.

Only person that would be is Vinyl.

And we got an extension.

Can someone unvote so I don't die to a random vote and get my thoughts out there?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So either way, it's non-linear for Mafia at night, because if I'm reading the OP right, there's only 2 civ roles, the rest are roleless.

So honestly, I think our best chance today is to lynch RR to test his role-claim. If he is who he says he is, then he was dead/useless at night anyway. If he is mafia, then we got one on a bad roleclaim, and our medic is still in hiding. If he's roleless civ, then we've only narrowed the mafia's likelihood of hitting the real medic slightly.

Unvote FullMetalLynch
Vote Red Ryu

But my eyes will come back your way to figure out you, FML, come next day phase, regardless of Red Ryu's alignment.

Riddle me this.

Why is this a priority over your scum picks?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

applies to laundry as well, at the least.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

applies to laundry as well, at the least.

Nice to see you sit on me at L-1, can you unvote so someone doesn't do something stupid while I am typing this?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

unvote
you have till two est

 

[Missing Person]

Riddle me this.

Why is this a priority over your scum picks?

Because a RC always reeks of desperation. Well, at least blatant ones that put a target on your back.

Either way we're losing you in this cycle. If we don't lynch you now, mafia has a very linear night 2 ahead of them. If we lynch you now, they have to think for themselves who to kill. We get more info from that than them just off and killing you.

That's assuming you are medic. You could be mafia, just trying to stay in.

*Missing Person thinks out loud mode, I'm prefacing it this way on here since it's my first time playing here, and you guys won't think I'm a raving lunatic.*

But then why roleclaim medic? That's something I have to look at right now. As mafia, you'd have to know a roleclaim would result in one of two actions:

1. You get lynched today.
2. You get lynched day 3 when you don't turn up dead on night 2.

So now here we go. Time to think a little more into this. What would mafia gain out of this line?

1. You're the rolecop, and you're still looking for the traitor or the medic.
2. You're the role block and think you've figured out who the real medic is to block him.

Keeping you alive for one more night gives mafia one last chance to figure things out or really put a hurt on the civs.

That's something I don't like the possibility of, but you ultimately have a 2/11 chance of getting assigned those roles, so it's still slim-ish, but not slim enough to discount.

I think #2 is the least likely, and not as useful, so most likely, if it's true that you're mafia and trying to stay your execution, then it's most likely 1. That gives me 11% chance of being right right now, and 9% chance of that having happened at game start.

But the question is, would mafia be thinking this far ahead to be making these plays? I think it's possible, or I wouldn't be debating it.

Otherwise, you're civ. right now I'm at 89% I think to get mafia out. I highly doubt you're role-block if you're mafia.

Another thing to factor in is that Dabuz/Orbo started out with a spat over that little question that I pushed on. I think if you're civ, FML is mafia, and vice versa. I can either walk into day 3 with more confidence on my read of who FML is, or I walk into it with neither a big suspect or a most likely ally if I lynch him and you're killed night 2.

So I'm kind of willing to take that gamble for the time being.

 

[Missing Person]

Of course, there's always the risk that mafia would NOT block you and even keep you in on night 2 just to get us to lynch you on day 3 clean. But at least now that I've said it, they'll have to think about NOT doing it because it's TOO obvious...presuming you're medic AND you don't get lynched today.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So townie.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Vote:Ryu

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Wow that actual wall from MP.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

My Reads.

Vinyl - I'm getting townish off his posts back to people but he is a crap shoot. I'm more bothered by others right now because they have something grimier they have done, where as Vinyl is really just prod dodging his way through Day 2 and not bringing anything here. Policy lynch him in any other game he does this though, seriously.

Keyblade - Get him to explain himself, I'm very bothered by his play because he at no point tries to explain himself nor make himself readable. He threw his vote on me and has yet to explain that nor any other read. He's scum at this point.

FML - Scum, I'm not buying his reasoning for Dabuz at all nor his interactions. He has been appealing to others and blowing off pressure when present to him, done hypocritcal actions where he votes the same person he chastised moments before, he continues to play defensive to pressure for no reason what so ever, every damn person who flipped town wanted him dead. He has no real reads he's all over the place and is willing to lynch anyone. He's not trying to define his reads. He's scum, lynch him immediately if I die today.

WL - Town, though misguided. Worst case scenario if he is scum he is the traitor but I'm very confident in a town read on this slot. Marshy when he was here leaked out his personal self over his persona, he's actually trying to read people here. Laundry has done the same, and if he town at the end, my lynch will be because he didn't read D1 and hasn't tried to readback on what people did post and this is what is throwing him off right now. I'm hesitant to tell town to listen to him because he is misguided and that might cost the game.

PB+J - His confidence and sense of self worth is townie, his interactions at the beginning of day 2 are why I liked him a lot more with FML. I'm not 100% with everything he said, but his reasoning is still there and I believe he believes what he is saying. Town.

Missing Person - His recent posts and his posts earlier show a sense of analysis. He is trying to look at this game from a pretty wide range and offers a lot of good points with his reads. I think he is trying to find the truth. I don't like his reasoning to off me, it's reasoning scum abuses to transparently get lynches they want. But I still think he is thinking about this as town.

-Masquerain- - Not sure here, I could go either way but I'd be more willing to throw him in the town pile. Lack of me focusing on his posts with analysis.

Vote: FML

MP, vote FML he is far more grimy in terms of play, WL actually read past PBJ tunneling FML and look at the grimy play he has done, he's not town and a lot of the scumminess is on Day 1. PJB don't give up. Vinyl throw a vote down.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Derp need Soup.

Soup - I hate how he handled Zen, he never tried to analyze or make an effort to read him past surface level. Then at some point I recall him trying to link his play back to his town play which is the same stuff I shot him for in BIM. Soup hasn't really gone off his own reads outside of that, he sheeped multiple players without trying to get his feet dirty.

Dear Town​

Exhibit A:


Exhibit B:

Exhibit C:



Exhibit D:

Dear Ran​

This is sheeping, you hypocratic piece of sh*t​

He's not trying to expand town he's trying to sit in town, trying to think if Soup + Rake makes sense but right now I'm far far more bothered by FML and he needs to die.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

every damn person who flipped town wanted him dead. He has no real reads he's all over the place and is willing to lynch anyone. He's not trying to define his reads. He's scum, lynch him immediately if I die today.

Bold: Dat Wifom dough
underlined: I have reads
Italics: I'm not willing to lynch wl or joker. How is that anyone ? Soup is looking more unlikely after my back and forth with him of late and Mp's last post actually made me cry a tear of hope. Orbo may not see it that way atm but imma talk to him about it more.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

If you guys lynch the claimed doc, you are a bunch of foolish fools from foolsville. Stahp!

Request deadline extension

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

because, ya know scum in trouble would totally never do that.

/sarcasm