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Villains Mafia - Bad enough dudes! - ENDGAME - HERO + RAM VICTORY!

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Aem probably has him. Which is a good thing, imo, since it means Zeb didn't do the factional kill. Neither did King, he blocked me.

Which means it's Yellow.
Okay, I'm quite certain you're mafia now, because I blocked Ram, not you. Hell, I didn't even do that., I used my banana peel on the guy, which has a different effect. Evidently, it did nothing.

But unless something turns this around, or it turns out another role blocker is lurking among us, then I'm screwed. Because if I'm the only role blocker left, then you're making all of this up. And given how eager Shish is to vote for me, and how you two have been defending each other (something Zeb has pointed out to me) then you two are likely two of the remaining mafia members. I've seen no proof of your roles from either of you.

But, since the town doesn't trust me and my only active ally is MIA, I'm most likely screwed. Good game, mafia. I will say that. Good game.
 

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Just to clarify, what exactly is the evidence against King? From what I've gathered, all I can see is that he might of used one of his abilities to block you in one form or another.
He blocked the rolecop. You don't do that unless you don't want them to out you or your allies.
 
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Aem probably has him. Which is a good thing, imo, since it means Zeb didn't do the factional kill. Neither did King, he blocked me.

Which means it's Yellow.
What can Aem do?

Also, we'll lynch King toDay for sure because him flipping will give us the most amount of information possible. If he turns out Town, I'm sure what that'll mean, vaan.
If he's Mafia, then that means Yellow and Zeb are our last two Mafiosi for sure.
 

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Just to clarify, what exactly is the evidence against King? From what I've gathered, all I can see is that he might of used one of his abilities to block you in one form or another.
He's either mistaken, or it's a lie.

If Ram is truly town, then he'd have likely seen the message that his role power was messed with. The power I used wasn't even a role block.
 

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He blocked the rolecop. You don't do that unless you don't want them to out you or your allies.
He's either mistaken, or it's a lie.

If Ram is truly town, then he'd have likely seen the message that his role power was messed with. The power I used wasn't even a role block.
Hmm... to be honest, I'm having a hard time deciding here. If what you say is true, vaan, then yeah, I'll jump in. However, King seems to sound contradicting in a way that's swaying my opinion here. However...

What can Aem do?

Also, we'll lynch King toDay for sure because him flipping will give us the most amount of information possible. If he turns out Town, I'm sure what that'll mean, vaan.
If he's Mafia, then that means Yellow and Zeb are our last two Mafiosi for sure.
So you're wanting to basically gamble on the possibility that King is either one of them, with the favor going to him being Mafia?


 

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Hmm... to be honest, I'm having a hard time deciding here. If what you say is true, vaan, then yeah, I'll jump in. However, King seems to sound contradicting in a way that's swaying my opinion here. However...



So you're wanting to basically gamble on the possibility that King is either one of them, with the favor going to him being Mafia?

King has yet to prove his second ability. He claimed to use his second ability on Apollo, then concluded it proved Apollo was town. Apollo was mafia. In all likelihood he never used his second ability on him in the first place, and instead they conspired to establish each other as town.

I'm the one that correctly deduced Apollo wasn't a vigilante at all, and thus could not have shot Zeb at Shish's request. So to cover up for his inability to do so, I believe they concocted this story to give Apollo a plausible excuse for not fulfilling Shish's request.

Which I'm now realizing means it's highly likely they're NOT working with Zeb. So it's either you, or it's Ram.

It's time to pick a side.
 

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And Natz~ Natz~ , whenever you're active, I'd like you to tell the class what you did tonight.
 
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Hmm... to be honest, I'm having a hard time deciding here. If what you say is true, vaan, then yeah, I'll jump in. However, King seems to sound contradicting in a way that's swaying my opinion here. However...



So you're wanting to basically gamble on the possibility that King is either one of them, with the favor going to him being Mafia?

Gambling is all you do in Mafia until you're absolutely 100% sure, which isn't often.
And it's not like it's unfounded, Vaan is most likely Town due to the way he's been acting. If he wanted, he could have had me and Praline killed on the same Night because he knew were linked up but somehow I'm still alive. So yeah, I'm gonna favor Vaan for now.
 

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King has yet to prove his second ability. He claimed to use his second ability on Apollo, then concluded it proved Apollo was town. Apollo was mafia. In all likelihood he never used his second ability on him in the first place, and instead they conspired to establish each other as town.

I'm the one that correctly deduced Apollo wasn't a vigilante at all, and thus could not have shot Zeb at Shish's request. So to cover up for his inability to do so, I believe they concocted this story to give Apollo a plausible excuse for not fulfilling Shish's request.

Which I'm now realizing means it's highly likely they're NOT working with Zeb. So it's either you, or it's Ram.

It's time to pick a side.
Well... based off all of that and the fact I've been absent for a while (which means I haven't associated with anyone), I guess I'll go with you on this one, honestly.


Vote: KingOfPhantoms
 

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I've never seen either Shish or Vaan prove their roles. Have any of you, minus each other? Maybe @God Robert's Cousin could back them up, but I don't even know how much he knows about them, either.

The fact that those two have had each others back for so long doesn't help. And yes, vaan, I know you voted off Apollo, but you tried voting me off first. Who's to say you didn't vote Apollo off when things started going against his favor, to shake suspicion off yourself? After all, with so many villains dead, you can afford to lose one member this late in the game.

You're making up a story to kill off someone you have no evidence against minus a role blocker claim, when the other role blocker was neither mafia nor town, but third party. Well, that and a (false) claim that I role blocked you.

You've got nothing on me, nothing that isn't pure speculation. And given how few people we have left, it's likely not speculation, but a bunch of lies you've concocted.

Like I said........the odds may be against me, but I'm sure as heck not going down without a fight.
 

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Did... Did you try to target me? What exactly did you do to Zeb and why did you wanted to do it on me?
Wowie! So it was you! Bummer for Zebbie.
Well~ let's just say he's just sleeping in this phase. I could show you pictures, but that would be weird ;P
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vaanrose vaanrose you seem to be forgetting the second faction in the goons. There's still (at least) the boss that exists there, the town has two factions to be wary of.
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I'll just wait for senpai Holder of the Heel Holder of the Heel to share his thoughts later~
 

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Wowie! So it was you! Bummer for Zebbie.
Well~ let's just say he's just sleeping in this phase. I could show you pictures, but that would be weird ;P
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vaanrose vaanrose you seem to be forgetting the second faction in the goons. There's still (at least) the boss that exists there, the town has two factions to be wary of.
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I'll just wait for senpai Holder of the Heel Holder of the Heel to share his thoughts later~
I remember Ura quite well. I don't know who is boss is, I don't even have a theory at this point. But Kirby finally replied to me last night confirming he's the one who brought him back.
 

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I remember Ura quite well. I don't know who is boss is, I don't even have a theory at this point. But Kirby finally replied to me last night confirming he's the one who brought him back.
Wait. The reviver brought back an opposing town force????

That's crazy shady, and I kidnap people lmao.
 

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If the town somehow votes against vaan or Shish here, I promise you guys won't regret it. On the off chance you do, all of you remaining townies can even get on my case on the next day. I don't care what happens to me, I'll accept the consequences if it turns out whichever one of them really is town regardless of all his lies. Because I know I'll have tried to save the town at the last minute, and had every right to suspect them.

What really sucks is that Zeb is missing; he was the one active ally I had left after Opo got killed, and GRC not being particularly active. If anyone could've backed me up right now, it would've been him.
 

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Wait. The reviver brought back an opposing town force????

That's crazy shady, and I kidnap people lmao.
He says he did it day two during the day phase, when his only options were Golden and Ura. I'd've picked Golden myself, but Ura could've been a help for the town if we could've figured out who his boss was.
 

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I've never seen either Shish or Vaan prove their roles. Have any of you, minus each other? Maybe @God Robert's Cousin could back them up, but I don't even know how much he knows about them, either.

The fact that those two have had each others back for so long doesn't help. And yes, vaan, I know you voted off Apollo, but you tried voting me off first. Who's to say you didn't vote Apollo off when things started going against his favor, to shake suspicion off yourself? After all, with so many villains dead, you can afford to lose one member this late in the game.

You're making up a story to kill off someone you have no evidence against minus a role blocker claim, when the other role blocker was neither mafia nor town, but third party. Well, that and a (false) claim that I role blocked you.

You've got nothing on me, nothing that isn't pure speculation. And given how few people we have left, it's likely not speculation, but a bunch of lies you've concocted.

Like I said........the odds may be against me, but I'm sure as heck not going down without a fight.
I'll say this.

Praline, the third party, independently verified my skill, without even realizing it, by specifically saying his power had been "repossessed" before I'd told anyone but GRC and Opossum (who was dead at that point) that that's the flavor of my skill. I'm a banker and I repossess. I don't steal a power, I don't take it or block it. I repossess it. If @God Robert's Cousin shows up some time today he'll be able to verify I told him my skill before it was used on praline.
 

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Actually, now that I remember it, I told it to Holder that same night, but I think he didn't trust me at the time so he never responded to me.
 

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I'll say this.

Praline, the third party, independently verified my skill, without even realizing it, by specifically saying his power had been "repossessed" before I'd told anyone but GRC and Opossum (who was dead at that point) that that's the flavor of my skill. I'm a banker and I repossess. I don't steal a power, I don't take it or block it. I repossess it. If @God Robert's Cousin shows up some time today he'll be able to verify I told him my skill before it was used on praline.
I see........

Well if you're telling the truth, all I can say is that I didn't block you. That wasn't even the power I used. Said that once, I'll repeat as much as need be.

If you're seriously not scum like I suspected and someone actually blocked you, then we have another role blocker at work. Which frankly isn't too far-fetched when we apparently also have three lynch proofs.
 

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huh this seeems to be the least crazy night i can tell...though uh whats between aem and zeb?
And Natz~ Natz~ , whenever you're active, I'd like you to tell the class what you did tonight.
sure thing~

i used my primary ability~ my secondary is my 50/50 super jail, my priamry ability is to force someone to use either their primary ability or their secondary ability but i don't chose their target

i forced kingy to use his primary ability on whatever target he chose~
 

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also while i'm at it vaanrose ya repoosesed zeb right? what ya got before he became whatever gone is
 
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If the town somehow votes against vaan or Shish here, I promise you guys won't regret it. On the off chance you do, all of you remaining townies can even get on my case on the next day. I don't care what happens to me, I'll accept the consequences if it turns out whichever one of them really is town regardless of all his lies. Because I know I'll have tried to save the town at the last minute, and had every right to suspect them.

What really sucks is that Zeb is missing; he was the one active ally I had left after Opo got killed, and GRC not being particularly active. If anyone could've backed me up right now, it would've been him.
If you don't care what happens to you then prove it with your role PM. All you have done so far is prove your roleblocking ability, which isn't even a necessarily Town ability.
@Shishœ

Did you hide behind Zeb?
Yes, I did.
Either he was Mafia and someone targetting me would kill him instead or he's Town and him being bulletproof prevents me from redirecting a kill onto someone.
Why do you ask?
 

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Yes, I did.
Either he was Mafia and someone targetting me would kill him instead or he's Town and him being bulletproof prevents me from redirecting a kill onto someone.
Why do you ask?
Just attempting to get a full picture.
 

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That moment you get PM'd when you are already asleep. Sorry @Zeb~



No, nothing happened to me.
I don't know why anyone would use a roleblock on me, considering I can't even do anything anymore.
No messages about getting roleblocked or anything similar?
 

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I've never seen either Shish or Vaan prove their roles. Have any of you, minus each other? Maybe @God Robert's Cousin could back them up, but I don't even know how much he knows about them, either.
GRC last Day phase got onto Shish because his results did not match up with Shish being a hider / linking players together.

Now we have another phase where that happens again. Shish claims to be with Zeb, except we know that is not true because Zeb is gone and Shish remains.

King has yet to prove his second ability. He claimed to use his second ability on Apollo, then concluded it proved Apollo was town. Apollo was mafia. In all likelihood he never used his second ability on him in the first place, and instead they conspired to establish each other as town.
I can confirm that King did indeed target Apollo with an ability of his that Night.
 
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GRC last Day phase got onto Shish because his results did not match up with Shish being a hider / linking players together.

Now we have another phase where that happens again. Shish claims to be with Zeb, except we know that is not true because Zeb is gone and Shish remains.



I can confirm that King did indeed target Apollo with an ability of his that Night.
I hid behind Zeb this Night, I didn't link myself up with him.

And I was linked with praline, otherwise we wouldn't have both had gotten Crusher's spot.
 
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