Videos against a great Doc in FL

[JFizzle]

OK, so he's not SmashMac, but he's definitely up there. Vidz with SmashMac coming soon, hopefully.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZKdeNQJCnA

Video 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26sv8hdwUdw

Video 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMf3mi0lLSk

Video 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZcnVuSjUk8

Video 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcyP8b8Bgrw

Video 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZtHvWCxfDc

Before you comment, please watch all the videos, because maybe I did what you mentioned and you failed to watch it. By the way, I don't get 4-stocked in ALL the videos lol, just the first one, but I would be cheating myself if I didn't upload it.

 

[JonaDiaper]

oh man that was a nice doc you faced, ok advice, i dont remember any ledgehops , i think instead of just jumping from the ledge, a ledgehopped Nair would have blocked those pills and done damage, and for mario and doc you can kill him easy at like 80 percent with just a knee at or near the edge, all you gotta do is edgehog and roll off which you did a couple times but not enough, and you neeed to work on your edge game against doc, he easily came back a few times that something like a Ftilt could have gotten rid of him, and if you stay near the edge and just duck the pills will hit you but not like move you so you can do an easy Dtilt, hope this helps

 

[JFizzle]

Thanks for the comment. I also could use some advice on how to counter his recovery, since he's so high up in the air, then throws his pills, capes, then Down Bs, then Up Bs. It's almost impossible to hold the ledge. I've thought about a moonwalk to backwards Uair, but I can't moonwalk very well. The only other option I see is Bair with the ledge's invicnibility frames. I've tried almost everything else, and I can't attack him from the stage because he will just tech it.

 

[JonaDiaper]

yeah that is tough, have you tried stalling? letting go of the ledge and using you second jump to hold back on to it? i think i keeps the invincibility frames going, so you can just keep stalling until he gets close enough that you can roll off, i think you stall by pressing down then up and sweetspot the ledge

 

[halfDemon]

UTilt for the win.

That Doc is mighty fine.

 

[jmic]

Again, really good Doc, lol.

Have you thought of playing other stages besides FD? That might make it easier to camp out and be patient.

And halfDemon is right. Utilt ftw. I usually don't go offstage to edge guard Doc because it's really a risky thing to do. But sometimes a surprise moonwalk Bair works well if you're can do it.

It looks like your tech skill and combo ability is all there, but like others and you have said, it's all a game of patience. Like I said earlier, try out different stages because FD is a little iffy against fast Docs.

 

[Dogysamich]

Hola, i'm a neighbor from below you guys, and i've come to say 2 things.

1

2. Get. Aggressive.

I'm surprised G-reg hasnt flown to your house and PANCHED you in the face for being so unaggressive.

>.>

 

[BlitzSh4ft]

Thats a nice Doc but i hardly think that after one set of matches you immediately call him "The best doc in Florida. Lol. SmashMac is (as far as i can tell) the most successful doc in the history of florida. At LTEC2 he practically went even with forwards fox, losing by one stock, and some ridiculously high amount of damage both matches. He beat Dop's peach with doc. He only lost to forward and GaWes. It seems that the doc player mentioned here didnt make it out of pools. Im not implying anything about dan$ as a person cause i met him and he cool; but i do think that if you are going to make comparison such as this you shouldnt half-*** it.

 

[Dogysamich]

see blitz, that's the funny thing.

Some people just throw those kinds of stats and accomplishments out when somebody loses dittos. In friendlies. On one stage. For a character who rarely sees their ditto in a tourney.

I mean, if we were talkin about Foxs here, then there could be a viable arguement in all this, but guess what?

THAT CAPTAIN FALCON NEEDS TO BE STICKING DOC LIKE WHITE ON RICE, THAT'S WHAT.

You need a good dose of GAWes, G-Reg, etc etc vids. (I name those 2 cause GAwes is my hero, and everybody knows g-reg) but more so because they play the same style; the one that works. The one that suffocates little kids at night with pillows. >.>

Breathing room should not be an option for doc.

 

[Cruise]

mmm
that doc gets you bad with a tap combos
a tap throw, a tap downsmash

you should anticipate these more and roll away

also when off the edge, dont always go for the sweetspot, because as you personally saw, this doc just goes down and capes you >.>

in your second vid, you ***** doc's 3rd stock
doc's not particularly hard to combo. it looks like somethings you're just trying to get in hits for the sake of damage, but never forget to combo when you can. nair -> nair/uair -> knee is deadly, and dont dancedance so much that he just walks away from it

also
YOU NEED MORE AGGRO

but god**** thats a nice doc

also edgeguards, utilt / dtilt, or even just edgehog->roll

in vid4
mmmm :39 shouldve been a roll instead of getting up with a, wouldve been another stock, and you had him at 1:20 until you SDed

as for approaching, don't just dash nairs, try empty shorthops back into grabs, into other aerials, even into smashes.

options out of shield-
dont always try to dair him, he just uptilts you. try hopping away or a retreating bair, or even just rolling

 

[DaShizWiz]

Titles kinda strong, don't ya think?

 

[JFizzle]

Well, this guy likes to play around and say things like that, but it's not official. Thanks for the no-spam advice Cruise.

 

[ye25]

Good Doc, same vids on Doc board, Same Ditto thing by Dogy. I still say dittos rule.

 

[DaShizWiz]

Well, this guy likes to play around and say things like that, but it's not official. Thanks for the no-spam advice Cruise.

Lol at his cockyness. Lol, If I ever see him in tournament I'll Doc ditto him. And If I win(wait were being cocky aren't we?) never mind, when I win I'll say I'm best Doc in FL. Lol @ him.

 

[KeepSpeedN]

Apparently, this fool beat Smashmac, the #1 FL Doc, so I decided to play him to test my Falcon. I uploaded 6 videos from 3 sets. I would like some advice on what to work on, besides my Falcon being aggressive, and missing a Knee hit, which happened a few times.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZKdeNQJCnA

Video 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26sv8hdwUdw

Video 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMf3mi0lLSk

Video 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZcnVuSjUk8

Video 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcyP8b8Bgrw

Video 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZtHvWCxfDc

Before you comment, please watch all the videos, because maybe I did what you mentioned and you failed to watch it. By the way, I don't get 4-stocked in ALL the videos lol, just the first one, but I would be cheating myself if I didn't upload it.

OK first of all

1. ur a dumba**

2.Dittos don't mean squat

3. Ur a noob shut the fuc* up

OK so i guess what ur saying is since i've beaten Tink 3 times in fox dittos that im now the best foxes in the U.s? o nnnooo no wait up but since 4ward beat me in the fox ditto at ltec hes the best fox, BUT WAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIT a minute since rockcrock beat 4wards fox in pools at fcd, ROCKROCK is the best fox! i guess he is by what u r saying... don't do this **** if u don't know what ur talking about, so what he beat smac in a DOC ditto good for him, hhe got 3 stocked by mavericks basic falco.. now i have nothing against this kid or even u but don't put arrogant **** like this up.

 

[SmashMac]

I didn't realize he would brag about beating me .... especially if it was at a free tournament and we fought only on FD with no counterpicks or anything. The tournament was mainly for fun and to see how people would place because it was free. If he's going around telling people that though, I guess it's fine. I guess the match meant that much to him. But apparently, JFizzle, you and Dan$ blew that "free" tournament match way out of it's proportions. Good job I hope you're proud of yourself. Also, good work fighting the "best Doc. (dittoer) in FL."

As far as the vids. go, I only watched one. Nair through doc's pills more. Grab a whole lot more and Ban FD. Space with nairs and don't get grabbed since Doc. can CG you from like 20 - 65% easily.

 

[Justin Wiles]

Way too much stomping. Makes you super predictable. Find more approaches! More grabbing is your friend.

Hmm... Also, your edge game sucks bad, sorry. How many times was he at the edge - HANGING from the edge - at +120%, and you let him back up? Awful. So many KO's there.

Also, FD is a bad spot to fight Marios. take it to BF or YS.

I'm just being blunt about your short-comings... don't get me wrong, you have a good Falcon, but that's just what I noticed in these videos.

 

[ye25]

Why dont you fly or use your x-ray vision...

 

[JFizzle]

Well, sorry I blew a little joke out of proportion. I didn't realize this meant so much to you fools. I said it was a joke. Why can't you guys take what I said about it being a joke seriously, but you take the "best doc in FL" thing seriously? We're all adults here, (at least some of us) so I'll change the info so you can all sleep at night.

I didn't come here to brag, I came for advice on how to improve myself.

By the way Smashmac, I meant nothing bad against you, and neither did Danny, so don't think we're both cocky *******s who brag all the time. He was joking around, and if anything, he only said great things about your Doc. Maybe I'll get to play you soon, so I can live up to the thread title.

 

[ye25]

If superman would actually have his powers, poor people would be able to afford x-rays.

 

[JFizzle]

...indeed lol. Unfortunately, I was given my name because of other conditions. I bet you're thinking, "He can finish with a girl faster than a speeding bullet." No, nothing like that lol.

 

[SmashMac]

Well, sorry I blew a little joke out of proportion. I didn't realize this meant so much to you fools. I said it was a joke. Why can't you guys take what I said about it being a joke seriously, but you take the "best doc in FL" thing seriously? We're all adults here, (at least some of us) so I'll change the info so you can all sleep at night.

I didn't come here to brag, I came for advice on how to improve myself.

By the way Smashmac, I meant nothing bad against you, and neither did Danny, so don't think we're both cocky *******s who brag all the time. He was joking around, and if anything, he only said great things about your Doc. Maybe I'll get to play you soon, so I can live up to the thread title.

Aight. I hope you know though that it's hard to read a sentence and tell whether or not it really is a joke over the internet. Don't make the title of a thread like that though as a joke if you're not going to tell us it's a joke until everyone gets wounded up. That's just instigation and asking for trouble. It's all good now though so don't worry about it.

 

[JFizzle]

Well, I was being serious about me getting a vid with you. If you're ever gonna be at FIU, let me know.

 

[SmashMac]

Well, I was being serious about me getting a vid with you. If you're ever gonna be at FIU, let me know.

Aight. Dunno if I'll be at FIU again unless it's an Anime Convention but I might show up to a touranment in SEFL with my brothers or something.

 

[JFizzle]

Just wanted to thank everyone who gave me advice on my Falcon. Keep them coming please. And yes, I know I have a better chance of getting out of the 7th Circle of Hell than I do edgeguarding a Doc, but I am working on it.

Also, comments like "Superman got wrecked!" don't really help my Falcon. No spamming please, unless you follow it with constructive criticism.

 

[Sighrax]

grab
and dair
chain grab and just get him off the stage. improving your DI would be a plus, too. basically nair through/over pills. the lag he's going to have from them is small but you gotta take advantage of it.

smashmac i want to play you again it's been a while.
don't i go pretty even with your doc :D

 

[ye25]

Fly and use super strength, it works like a charm.

 

[Honors]

Hi Jfizzle, what part of p.pines you from? You seem to live close by. Maybe we could smash sometime later on and I could teach you some tricks. PM me. I'll see if I could give some advice to your vids, but as everyone is saying, n-air cancels out docs pills and generally has more priority in comparison to doc which would make docs life much harder.

Not a CF expert but from experience vs. my bro:
When grabbing (I believe down throw) if they di away, you could knee them (depending %) on stage and off the stage, if they di up, you could try follow up with u-airs, if they try di back I believe u-air or b-air to rack some damage.

 

[ye25]

I like apples.

 

[drunkkunmonkey]

you should choose your attacks more wisely, dash dance camp a lil, grab more. atleast thats wat m2k told me wat to do with my falcon. lol

 

[ye25]

Yea yea, and eat more apples.

 

[Driz]

SHIELD GRAB, you hyad a couple oppertunities where he was vanurable to a shield grab and instead you went for an aerial giving him time to dodge and causing you to not start a combo!

 

[ye25]

Yea i noticed that too!

 

[JFizzle]

Thanks, I'm keeping all this in mind and applying it as soon as I play his *** again. Gonna have a new match up in a few days where I win, hehe.

 

[ye25]

O really? Well i wish you the best of the worst luck you can have.

 

[DJ-DIBBS]

You did particularly well for the best* doc in fl, well like other people said, stomps=good, to much= too pridictable, try going to easier setups like uthrows and dthrows and raptors(try not to miss) and utitls etc the gentleman might help, and you did well nairing pillz, mindgames son!

 

[ye25]

But stomps are so fun to shffl....

 

[Big Burn]

Knee For Ftw!!!

 

[ye25]

knees are just hilarious.

 

[Big Burn]

dairs are fun to shffl but u shouldnt approach with them that much... follow techs with them instead... approach with a grab or a neutral or something else usually besides a dair...not enough range... even though the hitbox on dairs are ridiculous