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Oh well. Theres always next w33k i suppose.it was supposed to be find out which one of us has the big spike pattern for the week and have everyone else sell their turnips there but uhh i forgot to buy mine
Indeed i do. Message me back when youre ready for me to visit and drop it off.
Better aerials that can actually hit below him, better specials (Freeze is much easier to hit than Flash, both the fires are preference, lucas' better for zoning, ness' better for grab setups, Magnet is a kill move and stops any 'bait out the magnet and approach play', and thunder gimps and is a less gimpable recovery), has a tether grab, making for a more reliable recovery than thunder, a thunder that recovers past blastzones, ez bake kill setups from grab (dthrow to upair, and dthrow sends them into so much hitstun its almost impossible not to get the upair) that kill ~the same as ness' bthrow (depending on if the vertical blastzone is closer/more farther away from horizontal), dthrow combos in general (so much hitstun that you can combo at any %, unlike ness' which dthrow>fair combo stops working at mid %s), better zoning than Ness with zair and pkfire, actual spikes, etc.
oh im here now!
Gates are open stop by whenever
Ness's backthrow will never be nerfed, and his grab is easy to avoid.
By not standing still and keeping a good distance between him and you.
Then pick a counterpick against Ness, or try to avoid getting too close to Ness.
Antonykun
for the record losing space against ness isn't too bad if you are at a percent where back throw would not kill with you behind the edge like that
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No I didnt leave your new shirt out in the middle of a thunderstorm i dont know what youre talking about.
Also, Ness does have a couple of kill moves, yes, but he struggles in approaching, his neutral is lacking, and his recovery is laughably gimpable.
And B-throw killed at 90% at ledges since 64, and its remained that good in every game since. 16ish years without a nerf and i doubt thatll change.
I wish I had a Wii U...
I wish I had that K.K. Slider amiibo...
i wish there was a mr Resetti Amiibo
I wish @Indigo Jeans was here...
I wish there was an @Indigo Jeans amiibo. That would be pretty cool.
Compatable withI can imagine it...
What happened exactly?
Shiek Up-B fills two bars of G&W's bucket. This combinaton stole the show, as shieks up-b is relatively safe and made for easy bucket setups.
Antonykun
Your bloody anteater moved in just as my dream villager was at the campsite. Why you gotta do this to me man 
Also because Sheik's up-b is so strong, G&W's Oil Spill attack is a OHKO almost every time, AND is a true combo out of down throw until like 60% or something. It's ridiculous. MJG and Shaky were beating them(Mr. R and Anti) until they started using that strategy.Shiek Up-B fills two bars of G&W's bucket. This combinaton stole the show, as shieks up-b is relatively safe and made for easy bucket setups.
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Oh god I thought I was finally done with her.Shiek Up-B fills two bars of G&W's bucket. This combinaton stole the show, as shieks up-b is relatively safe and made for easy bucket setups.
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Its the same problems back when pikachu and G&W were dominating the 3ds scene, and my answer is the same. Cap damage done by teammates to only one bar of the bucket, akin to brawl. Also maybe make it count as a projectile that can be reflected/pocketed. This way, he still has a powerful tool against energy users/shiek, and doubles would take as long to set it up as Villager teams to set up an instakill pocketed tree. We really dont need to be nerfing bottom tiers like G&W more than necessary.
I'd love that!
Seconded
