UTrick'd2, OVER! Mafia wins!

[T-block]

exam break until the 19th yay

zeke needs to answer a buttload of questions:
why were you so quick to assume you were the cause of meadow's death, especially when you don't receive confirmation and there was no second kill?
even if you were the cause, why were you so quick to claim credit for it?
where was the sentence that showed brosuke picked up on the crumb?
how was he able to discern your role from it?
why did that give you a town read on brosuke?

 

[T-block]

gord's the only one left alive who was given toast, LAK. here's proof i gave it to kantrip. i guess he rejected it though.

hi soup. i'm doing well

someone made a loud noise behind my head during the Night. my hearing's better now though.

you're welcome, kantrip

I'm such a jerk. And I'm kind of hungry.

With all these night actions, if we do a super duper mass claim we're sure to find scum.

Right?

 

[T-block]

where is everyone?

i can't find anything conclusive

d2:

Composer, where are you? I'm perfectly fine with lynching you if you don't get in here, even though, as Ryker said, you're good enough vig bait.

d3 (pressure on werekill for these posts):

Where the hell is composer? Scum until he ****ing gets in here and posts.

Composer SCUM. He was reading the thread yesterday, but he still didn't post. Vote: Composer until he gets in here.

I don't actually want a Composer lynch. I want him to freaking post. >_<

I am fine with getting rid of Composer, whether it be through a lynch, modkill, or a replacement.

Which begs the question ofwhy hasn't he been replaced. I remember the mod in Newbie 13 replacing someone an hour or two before deadline because the player was scum; who says a mod wouldn't do the opposite for a scum by not pushing him/her?

Of course, he could easily just be an inactive *******. In fact, that's probably it. >_<

I also wouldn't mind getting rid of Composer, be it through a lynch, modkill, or replacement.

True. He just seems like a major liability in LYLO.

Hm. Gorf. I want to get rid of Composer because he's dragging down the game. If I would even contribute to a self-quicklynch of me toMorrow, what would you say to a Composer lynch?

i can see both sides

most posts kinda have that hint of composer being town (being okay with modkill, for example), but he was under pressure, and with a scummate like composer, i would have no problems diverting to him.

last quote really makes me think that he could be banking on a composer scum flip to clear him - if composer were his scummate, he would be the most important player on the team and would need to survive at all costs. the desperation could just be him wanting to live another Day to use whatever power he had though.

inactives ****ing blow -_-

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Dude his reliance on a scumposer flip is EXACTLY why I'm thinking it's SvS.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Well, just about EXACTLY.

And btw yes I got dat toast.

 

[Zeke the Moth]

Zeke, is that the command your suppose to give? Because a Shoryken is Forward Down Forward punch, there is no second down in the input. It's basically a hadoken but you hit forward first then do a hadoekn input, Quarter circle forward.

You're wrong. Shoryuken is 623 which is Forward (6), Down (2), Forward-Down (3). There's also no punch required because the command PREPARES us to react with a Shoryuken.

I'm skeptical because of the lack of a night kill from the Indy, we sprayed ourselves again last night. Even if you did kill him, it doesn't explain the lack of the night kill from mafia.

exam break until the 19th yay

zeke needs to answer a buttload of questions:
why were you so quick to assume you were the cause of meadow's death, especially when you don't receive confirmation and there was no second kill?
even if you were the cause, why were you so quick to claim credit for it?
where was the sentence that showed brosuke picked up on the crumb?
how was he able to discern your role from it?
why did that give you a town read on brosuke?

I'll tell you why I'm so quick to assume that.

Because I know it to be true. (with relative certainty)

Consider the possibilities:

There was only one kill, and it was not by fire. As a result of that, we know the kill was performed by either my retaliation, or the mafia.

Now, the crux of why it was me lies in the ABSENCE of that second kill. If it was mafia who killed Laundry, the only possible way that there could be no second kill (Laundry's) is if LAK correctly sprayed, which is rather low likelihood.

Otherwise, the kills would have occurred at the same time and there would ALSO be a fire death tonight.

Yes, it's possible that LAK protected correctly.

Also, addressing the lack of mafia NK, there's really only two options I can think of:

1) They also targeted Laundry.
2) They targeted Gorf and he dove last night.

Now, regarding Brosuke. I don't want to hunt down the EXACT post because I'm lazy, but I will if I have to.

At any rate, right after we claimed Batman, he had noticed the bolded crumb and said something along the lines of "damn, we just got Shoryukened".

I also crumbed that the role was a fatal retaliation in this chain of posts:

I sure am glad F8AL can't infract me for double-posting in here.

In all seriousness, do we practically see this day ending in a lynch other than Inferno or Soup? I don't really feel comfortable with lynching either, but I'm not seeing many other places to go right now.

...Seriously? You're talking about that?

Can you crumb how it alludes to you being town?

Just did. Seriously.

Look at our claim. Look at what you think about it. Look at our other crumb, then get off the goddamn batman's nuts.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH

Unvote

Like wtf how did I miss that.

Brosuke's reactions are what gave me the Town read on him.

 

[Zeke the Moth]

Oh, and obviously I'm quick to claim credit for it because I've long crumbed my role and it's obviously not a scum role, unless you want to make the case that I'm a second Indy.

 

[T-block]

gord didn't dive, or he wouldn't have received my toast

that means mafia would have had to have targetted meadow. chances of that are the same as the chances of LAK getting the right protect, from a pure probability perspective. in reality, chances of LAK spraying correctly are actually higher, since he had claimed, and generally protectives can't self-target, making him a natural target for meadow, while LAK sprayed himself twice.

i found where brosuke caught the shoryuken. i find it hard to believe that he managed to figure out your role from the mention of f8al though. you think he figured out that you counter fatal actions? why wouldn't scum react in the way he did?

 

[Zeke the Moth]

It was a feel, and I was right, so what does this even matter?

 

[T-block]

i'm trying to see if your behaviour throughout the game makes sense now that you've claimed your role

because i'm not sure i believe you actually have that ability

 

[Zeke the Moth]

 

[T-block]

there's no proof

and it doesn't make sense that you would assume it was your doing when there was only one kill, and you don't get confirmation. there are so many other possible explanations for what happened - LAK could have protected correctly, meadow could have targetted gorf while he dove, mafia might have a kill that outprioritizes meadow's, meadow might have some restriction on when he can kill (no fire death n1 or n3, plus two unrestricted killing factions in a 13-player game is kinda silly). looks more like you were jumping on a chance to have some aspect of your role that could be proven.

 

[T-block]

i guess you didn't know about gorf when you claimed credit, but the rest still stands

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

A shoyuken is >v> + P of light medium or strong punch.

623 is about right to that though.

Still reguardless of this and the claims and mensions around, I can't let composer off the hook, he needs to die before lylo if he will not claim. I gave him a fewe days to offer a claim of any sort.

That player slot is a liablity no matter how you view it. I'll vote later.

As it stands, I think one of Zeke or T-block is scum, but no way in hell am I letting composer make it to lylo.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Racism, yo!

JohnRyu, why can't you hear anything! Sometimes when you march to the beat of your own drum, you hit the drum too hard, ta-don~!

48 hours is so close...

 

[Lovably Adorable Kanine]

Gorf is town no matter what happens with Zeke or T-Block in lylo, btw.

Gorf don't tunnel if we get NK'd btw, look at both T-Block and Zeke, aka don't write T-block off as obvious town if you are alive tomarrow.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

If you're town and NK'd, okay.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Okay, hoped it wouldn't have to come to this but the time honored tradition of the modkill is going to be reinstated.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

So you're in twilight I guess

 

[T-block]

meh

just pretend we lynched him if it makes you feel better

 

[T-block]

so... do we win?

 

[DtJ Composer]

Well I said I'd play so the game would continue. \o_o/


Do what you can ta~don!!

 

[DtJ Composer]

Also I'm town, ta~don

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Speedin things up a bit!

Spoiler

Composer, Don, Town Drum...guy has been modkilled!

Night phase! 48 hours!

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

It was... a heavy night, for the people of the town. They had lost so much in their struggle to overcome the oppressions of Scum, and now, on the brink of victory...

Catastrophe.

In the night...

Spoiler

LAK, Reflex’s Pokemon Trainer Water Gunning Ryker’s Falco, Town Spray Bottle has been killed!

AND

Spoiler

Gorf, Ron Jeremy performing autofellatio while skydiving without a parachute, Town Sexual Daredevil has been burned to ashes!

Zeke The Moth, the Shoryuken, Town Launcher has endgamed!

T-Block, Powdered Toast Man, Mafia Toaster Distributor has won the game!

SCUM TEAM WINS!​

I'll get role PMs and night action lists up if you guys would like, otherwise feel free to talk about anything now!

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Well that was an anticlimax.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I can only do so much.

/shrug

 

[Gova]

Gorf has hilarious flavors.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Activity took a major hit the past few Days and the excitement of the plummeted because of it.

Still, I'm very happy for the most part on how this game went down. A very strong showing from a number of players.

 

[John2k4]

Here's our flavor image...

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Wow.

Nice.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Oh btw I was gonna revive as scum halfway through this dayphase so you gotta be glad n stuff.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I would have sided with zeke over T-block in lylo based on the reread i did, the interaction to push the lynch at me over werekill compared to Zeke made me think scumblock, dang inactives and modkills, not to mension the soup quicklynch.

Also why did a double NK happen? and can I see role PMs?

Kinda salty since i had lylo ready if Gorf died over me and told him to not side right away with anyone. Oh well. GG.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Meadow had a delayed night kill.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

The indy kill took time to fully go through and had already ensnared Gord.

 

[John2k4]

Hydra chat log through Skype:

[collapse=Great Wall of text]
[11/7/2011 3:58:55 PM] Red_Ryu: yup yup
[11/7/2011 3:59:01 PM] Red_Ryu: got an idea? I got a couple
[11/7/2011 3:59:20 PM] John P.: The one I sent in for myself was Charlie, from Street Fighter Alpha
[11/7/2011 3:59:31 PM] John P.: Which ones do you have?
[11/7/2011 4:00:40 PM] Red_Ryu: I had
[11/7/2011 4:00:58 PM] Red_Ryu: Strawberry cake
[11/7/2011 4:01:15 PM] Red_Ryu: Lucario, lol I wonder why
[11/7/2011 4:01:29 PM] Red_Ryu: Kanye West
[11/7/2011 4:01:37 PM] John P.: I'd be cool with Lucario ...
[11/7/2011 4:01:37 PM] Red_Ryu: or Giant Robot Micheal jackson
[11/7/2011 4:01:38 PM] John P.: lol
[11/7/2011 4:02:01 PM] John P.: Not sure...I like Lucario, and the giant robot is hilarious
[11/7/2011 4:02:34 PM] Red_Ryu: Who is the guy from Bust A move again?
[11/7/2011 4:02:46 PM] John P.: Bubblun
[11/7/2011 4:02:50 PM] John P.: Well
[11/7/2011 4:03:04 PM] John P.: That's his Japanese name, in the US he was just called Bub
[11/7/2011 4:03:35 PM] Red_Ryu: I like that guy
[11/7/2011 4:03:41 PM] Red_Ryu: used to play that game a lot
[11/7/2011 4:03:47 PM] John P.: I almost did that for the cancelled DR UPick game, but Glyph warned that a lot of people might know my flavor instantly
[11/7/2011 4:04:27 PM] Red_Ryu: Oh I see
[11/7/2011 4:04:39 PM] Red_Ryu: he wants flavor that can confuse people and not let them guess it
[11/7/2011 4:04:45 PM] John P.: Yeah
[11/7/2011 4:04:53 PM] Red_Ryu: Alrighty, let me think for a sec
[11/7/2011 4:05:06 PM] John P.: That's why I chose Charlie from Street Fighter Alpha, since he was only in the first couple games
[11/7/2011 4:05:20 PM] John P.: He gets killed off in each of them, and in the later games is "replaced" with Guild
[11/7/2011 4:05:26 PM] John P.: Guile
[11/7/2011 4:05:43 PM] John P.: So unless you play a lot of StreetFighter, you might not know him too well.
[11/7/2011 4:06:09 PM] Red_Ryu: I know him
[11/7/2011 4:06:13 PM] Red_Ryu:
[11/7/2011 4:06:16 PM] Red_Ryu: love SF
[11/7/2011 4:06:36 PM] John P.: (I've got a SF Alpha Warriors Dreams arcade cabinet, so I know Charlie quite well...)
[11/7/2011 4:08:15 PM] Red_Ryu: I read ya
[11/7/2011 4:08:30 PM] John P.: Hmmm flavor...
[11/7/2011 4:08:36 PM] John P.: Oh
[11/7/2011 4:08:47 PM] John P.: How about "Ark", from an old SNES game
[11/7/2011 4:08:52 PM] John P.: Terranigma
[11/7/2011 4:09:25 PM] Red_Ryu: Who is that?
[11/7/2011 4:09:42 PM] Red_Ryu: also Charlie is fine with me, for the record
[11/7/2011 4:09:54 PM] Red_Ryu: I'm just trying to think of something rediculous
[11/7/2011 4:10:01 PM] John P.: yeah
[11/7/2011 4:10:21 PM] Red_Ryu: Asdioh's Kirby
[11/7/2011 4:10:27 PM] John P.: Alrighty obscure things...
...
[11/7/2011 4:10:28 PM] John P.: lol
[11/7/2011 4:10:39 PM] Red_Ryu: yeah, make it another person in the game
[11/7/2011 4:10:46 PM] John P.: Brilliant!
[11/7/2011 4:10:59 PM] Red_Ryu: oh he's not in it
[11/7/2011 4:11:01 PM] Red_Ryu: dang
[11/7/2011 4:11:02 PM] Red_Ryu: one sec
[11/7/2011 4:11:26 PM] Red_Ryu: Ryker's Falco being Water Gun'd by Reflex
[11/7/2011 4:11:31 PM] Red_Ryu: yup that flavor
[11/7/2011 4:12:01 PM] John P.: Ryker's avatar?
[11/7/2011 4:12:12 PM] John P.: Or his character bit
[11/7/2011 4:12:16 PM] Red_Ryu: No more so
[11/7/2011 4:12:25 PM] Red_Ryu: Ryker lives in Al
[11/7/2011 4:12:37 PM] Red_Ryu: he plays Reflex who is considered the best Pokemon Trainer player in Braw;l
[11/7/2011 4:12:49 PM] Red_Ryu: he tells me stroies of him playing against Relfex
[11/7/2011 4:12:52 PM] Red_Ryu: I wanna troll it
[11/7/2011 4:12:55 PM] Red_Ryu: lol
[11/7/2011 4:13:16 PM] John P.: Hmmmmmmmmm
[11/7/2011 4:13:32 PM] John P.: If there's a Falco sprite somehwere that's 2D, I might be able to make a picture to go with it.
[11/7/2011 4:13:45 PM] Red_Ryu: I can get that
[11/7/2011 4:13:50 PM] Red_Ryu: The name
[11/7/2011 4:13:50 PM] John P.: alright that would be great
[11/7/2011 4:13:53 PM] Red_Ryu: I think it should be
[11/7/2011 4:13:55 PM] John P.: I'll go grab a squirtle sprite
[11/7/2011 4:14:36 PM] Red_Ryu: Reflex's Pokemon Trainer Water Gunning Ryker's Falco
[11/7/2011 4:14:39 PM] Red_Ryu: That's the name
[11/7/2011 4:14:47 PM] Red_Ryu: You good with that?
[11/7/2011 4:14:48 PM] John P.: I like it.
[11/7/2011 4:15:33 PM] John P.: Alright, I have a sprite file here, with all the trainer sprites from HG/SS....I'll circle the few to pick from...
[11/7/2011 4:16:55 PM] Red_Ryu: Well
[11/7/2011 4:17:04 PM] Red_Ryu: yeah that works
[11/7/2011 4:17:43 PM] John P.: Alright, two that I like...
[11/7/2011 4:18:02 PM] John P.: http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb309/roger3245/Screenshots/HGSS-TR-2.png
[11/7/2011 4:18:16 PM] John P.: The one on the right that's breathing fire - I might be able to turn that into water, and color him blue.
[11/7/2011 4:19:06 PM] Red_Ryu: well
[11/7/2011 4:19:11 PM] Red_Ryu: actually it needs to be Red
[11/7/2011 4:19:15 PM] Red_Ryu: because
[11/7/2011 4:19:20 PM] Red_Ryu: Red is the PT from Brawl
[11/7/2011 4:19:28 PM] John P.: Oh?
[11/7/2011 4:19:34 PM] Red_Ryu: yeah cause
[11/7/2011 4:19:38 PM] John P.: (I have mine Texmodded to Gary Oak, so I don;t remember :D)
[11/7/2011 4:19:48 PM] Red_Ryu: lol it's ok
[11/7/2011 4:20:00 PM] John P.: Alright, so breathing fire....Want me to grab Red's sprite?
[11/7/2011 4:20:09 PM] John P.: And have that breathing fire onto Falco?
[11/7/2011 4:20:38 PM] Red_Ryu: have his Squirtle
[11/7/2011 4:20:47 PM] Red_Ryu: doing a water gun on a Falco
[11/7/2011 4:20:52 PM] Red_Ryu: it pretty much the idea
[11/7/2011 4:20:56 PM] John P.: Ah okay
[11/7/2011 4:21:04 PM] John P.: Do you want to use Red's sprite
[11/7/2011 4:21:08 PM] Red_Ryu: yes
[11/7/2011 4:21:18 PM] John P.: ah instead of cropping agian, I already have him somewhere...
[11/7/2011 4:21:21 PM] John P.: Ah yes
[11/7/2011 4:21:21 PM] John P.: http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb309/roger3245/Bubblun7.png
[11/7/2011 4:21:26 PM] John P.: That sprite of him?
[11/7/2011 4:23:28 PM] Red_Ryu: yes
[11/7/2011 4:23:30 PM] Red_Ryu: that is him
[11/7/2011 4:23:31 PM] Red_Ryu:
[11/7/2011 4:23:35 PM] John P.: Okay.
[11/7/2011 4:23:46 PM] John P.: Squirtle - use this...?
[11/7/2011 4:23:48 PM] John P.: http://www.serebii.net/Shiny/BW/007.png
[11/7/2011 4:24:20 PM] John P.: Ooh, or there's this...
[11/7/2011 4:24:21 PM] John P.: http://www.serebii.net/art/th/7.png
[11/7/2011 4:24:38 PM] Red_Ryu: use the first one
[11/7/2011 4:25:29 PM] John P.: Okay.
[11/7/2011 4:25:43 PM] John P.: While I;m making things, do you want a Tails/Bub avatar to go with the Hydra?
[11/7/2011 4:26:04 PM] Red_Ryu: I'll do
[11/7/2011 4:26:07 PM] Red_Ryu: Luc Bub
[11/7/2011 4:26:10 PM] Red_Ryu:
[11/7/2011 4:26:14 PM] Red_Ryu: ok I'll make it
[11/7/2011 4:26:17 PM] John P.: So you'll make it?
[11/7/2011 4:26:21 PM] Red_Ryu: yes
[11/7/2011 4:26:26 PM] John P.: Alright cool
[11/7/2011 4:26:49 PM] Red_Ryu: I wanted to leave our acatar as Fox Falco I put up, but that is good
[11/7/2011 4:27:17 PM] John P.: Sounds good
[11/7/2011 4:27:24 PM] John P.: So, for Red, he has three different "poses"
[11/7/2011 4:27:32 PM] John P.: Which one of them looks best....
[11/7/2011 4:27:35 PM] John P.: http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb309/roger3245/Screenshots/HGSS-TR-R3.png
[11/7/2011 4:27:47 PM] Red_Ryu: Third one
[11/7/2011 4:27:49 PM] John P.: alright
[11/7/2011 4:30:20 PM] Red_Ryu: how much woul dyou be against keeping the avatar as is?
[11/7/2011 4:30:39 PM] John P.: Um...
[11/7/2011 4:30:57 PM] John P.: It's a decent avatar...I'd be fine with a replacement too
[11/7/2011 4:31:54 PM] Red_Ryu: ok I'll replace it
[11/7/2011 4:32:01 PM] Red_Ryu: I'll use it as my own then
[11/7/2011 4:32:05 PM] John P.:
[11/7/2011 4:32:32 PM] John P.: Oh hey, fine time for "Eye of the Tiger" to start playing...
[11/7/2011 4:32:48 PM] John P.: Anyhow,
[11/7/2011 4:32:51 PM] John P.: Falco sprites...I found two that are....decent.
[11/7/2011 4:32:57 PM] John P.: http://www.spriters-resource.com/custom_edited/starfox/sheet/17236
[11/7/2011 4:33:03 PM] John P.: http://www.spriters-resource.com/custom_edited/starfox/sheet/17237
[11/7/2011 4:33:51 PM] Red_Ryu: I use the same site lol
[11/7/2011 4:33:58 PM] John P.: SR is great
[11/7/2011 4:34:10 PM] John P.: The second one looks...better to me, but what's your opinion?
[11/7/2011 4:35:04 PM] Red_Ryu: first one
[11/7/2011 4:35:19 PM] John P.: ah yes
[11/7/2011 4:35:34 PM] John P.: Dangit I meant first link, my browser tabs were switched :O
[11/7/2011 4:35:57 PM] John P.: The second link looks kinda like MSPaint to me. :/
[11/7/2011 4:36:06 PM] Red_Ryu: http://www.spriters-resource.com/custom_edited/starfox/sheet/17236
[11/7/2011 4:36:10 PM] Red_Ryu: this one I like
[11/7/2011 4:36:14 PM] John P.: Yes.
[11/7/2011 4:36:21 PM] John P.: Alright, any pose in particualr?
[11/7/2011 4:36:40 PM] Red_Ryu: Falco on the ground
[11/7/2011 4:36:51 PM] John P.: The right side has some interesting ones (both corners)
[11/7/2011 4:36:54 PM] John P.: Laying down?
[11/7/2011 4:37:00 PM] Red_Ryu: laying down eyes closed
[11/7/2011 4:40:13 PM] Red_Ryu: Ok so I'll work on our avatar
[11/7/2011 4:41:51 PM] John P.: Cool
[11/7/2011 4:41:55 PM] John P.: Here's what I've got so far...
[11/7/2011 4:42:19 PM] John P.: This is zoomed out to actual size...and the black line is temporary.
[11/7/2011 4:42:20 PM] John P.: http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb309/roger3245/Screenshots/GMP-TMP-SS-WIP1.png
[11/7/2011 4:59:58 PM] Red_Ryu: ok
[11/7/2011 5:00:00 PM] Red_Ryu: the
[11/7/2011 5:01:15 PM] John P.: Heh, I got the water effect finished right before you got back
[11/7/2011 5:01:33 PM] Red_Ryu: the profile
[11/7/2011 5:01:35 PM] John P.: Ah
***
[11/7/2011 5:01:58 PM] John P.: alright
[11/7/2011 5:02:06 PM] John P.: While i log into that, how does the water look...
[11/7/2011 5:02:08 PM] John P.: http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb309/roger3245/Screenshots/UTR-FLV-WIP2.png
[11/7/2011 5:02:29 PM] Red_Ryu: perfect
[11/7/2011 5:08:41 PM] Red_Ryu: oh
[11/7/2011 5:08:44 PM] Red_Ryu: I'm logged on atm
[11/7/2011 5:08:46 PM] Red_Ryu: one sec
[11/7/2011 5:08:52 PM] Red_Ryu: try is now
[11/7/2011 5:09:39 PM] John P.: Alright it worked
[11/7/2011 5:09:49 PM] John P.: Oh you and Smash Blue..
[11/7/2011 5:09:58 PM] Red_Ryu: lol
[11/7/2011 5:10:18 PM] John P.: Alright for the flavor picture...
[11/7/2011 5:10:24 PM] John P.: What kind of surface should the ground be?
[11/7/2011 5:10:31 PM] John P.: Dirt/grass, or other
[11/7/2011 5:15:39 PM] Red_Ryu: http://i42.tinypic.com/27yvnk4.png
[11/7/2011 5:15:49 PM] Red_Ryu: grass
[11/7/2011 5:25:27 PM] John P.: That looks great
[11/7/2011 5:26:51 PM] Red_Ryu: so did the password work?
[11/7/2011 5:27:00 PM] John P.: Yes
[11/7/2011 5:27:07 PM] Red_Ryu: awesome
[11/7/2011 5:27:20 PM] John P.: Had to go grab a harddrive for someone, I'll put in the grass now
[11/7/2011 5:31:15 PM] Red_Ryu: ok np
[11/7/2011 5:42:56 PM] John P.: Okay, I think it is done...
[11/7/2011 5:43:07 PM] John P.: How does this look?
[11/7/2011 5:43:08 PM] John P.: http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb309/roger3245/Screenshots/UTR-FLV-WIP3.png
[11/7/2011 5:45:04 PM] Red_Ryu: that is good
[11/7/2011 5:45:12 PM] John P.: Alright, cool...I'll upload it
[11/7/2011 5:46:21 PM] John P.: http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb309/roger3245/UTrick2-Flavor.png
[11/7/2011 5:47:59 PM] Red_Ryu: awesome, you can PM it early to Glyph
[11/7/2011 5:53:07 PM] John P.: Alright, so...
[11/7/2011 5:53:22 PM] Red_Ryu:
[11/7/2011 5:53:42 PM] John P.: Reflex's Pokemon Trainer Water Gunning Ryker's Falco
[11/7/2011 5:53:47 PM] John P.: That's all to include with the picture?
[11/7/2011 5:53:56 PM] Red_Ryu: yup
[11/7/2011 5:54:01 PM] Red_Ryu: that's all there is
[11/7/2011 5:54:04 PM] Red_Ryu: you got it down
[11/7/2011 5:54:09 PM] John P.: Alrighty, I'dd go send it
[11/7/2011 5:55:33 PM] Red_Ryu: one sec joey
[11/7/2011 5:55:48 PM] John P.: Hmm?
[11/7/2011 5:56:34 PM] Red_Ryu: my roomate wants to Tvo a show
[11/7/2011 5:56:42 PM] John P.: ah
[11/7/2011 5:57:29 PM] Red_Ryu: oh man wrong chat lol
[11/7/2011 5:57:30 PM] Red_Ryu: sorry
[11/7/2011 5:57:37 PM] Red_Ryu: also
[11/7/2011 5:57:43 PM] Red_Ryu: I'll change the avatar later
[11/30/2011 3:25:12 PM] Red_Ryu: hi
[11/30/2011 3:25:36 PM] John P.: Hey
[11/30/2011 3:25:54 PM] Red_Ryu: so you've read the mafia game atm?
[11/30/2011 3:26:12 PM] John P.: Been keeping relatively current, I need to read anything new from this morning
[11/30/2011 3:26:45 PM] Red_Ryu: ummm
[11/30/2011 3:26:53 PM] Red_Ryu: Brosuke made a case on Zeke
[11/30/2011 3:27:01 PM] Red_Ryu: I wasn't compelled
[11/30/2011 3:27:12 PM] Red_Ryu: Voting Inferno yes or no?
[11/30/2011 3:27:44 PM] John P.: I honestly do not feel he is scum
[11/30/2011 3:29:58 PM] Red_Ryu: Yeah I think that somewhat
[11/30/2011 3:30:06 PM] Red_Ryu: his recent posts are making me doubt it
[11/30/2011 3:31:42 PM] John P.: Reading through Brosuke's case now...
[11/30/2011 3:32:15 PM] Red_Ryu: I read it
[11/30/2011 3:32:21 PM] Red_Ryu: read the wisdom part mostly
[11/30/2011 3:37:28 PM] John P.: Alright
[11/30/2011 3:37:29 PM] John P.: That was an interesting case
[11/30/2011 3:38:31 PM] John P.: TB's vote on Brosuke - he doesn't buy the case, mehtinks
[11/30/2011 3:39:03 PM] Red_Ryu: yeah he doesn't
[11/30/2011 3:41:35 PM] John P.: Zeke had a crumb, and Brosuke removes his vote..
[11/30/2011 3:41:46 PM] John P.: Although I agree with Zeke, it makes Brosuke look towny
[11/30/2011 3:43:13 PM] Red_Ryu: yeah I trust Brosuke
[11/30/2011 3:45:10 PM] Red_Ryu: Ryker and Brosuke are town
[11/30/2011 3:45:14 PM] Red_Ryu: I'm certain of that
[11/30/2011 3:45:30 PM] John P.: Is Inferno is leaning town to you?
[11/30/2011 3:45:35 PM] Red_Ryu: he was
[11/30/2011 3:45:39 PM] Red_Ryu: until his recent posts
[11/30/2011 3:45:47 PM] John P.: ah, I just arrived at his mass read post
[11/30/2011 3:45:52 PM] John P.: #1339
[11/30/2011 3:46:22 PM] Red_Ryu: If he flips town
[11/30/2011 3:46:35 PM] Red_Ryu: we should read that for paper trails to see who he trusted and not
[11/30/2011 3:46:46 PM] John P.: agreed
[11/30/2011 3:47:20 PM] John P.: Inferno's post had everyone as either town or null :/
[11/30/2011 3:48:36 PM] John P.: Ah, they probably noticed me because I try to skim the game from phone for the mornings :/
[11/30/2011 3:48:40 PM] John P.: Maybe I should go invisible
[11/30/2011 3:51:38 PM] John P.: aand done
[11/30/2011 3:51:59 PM] John P.: So it's pretty much solid now that Inferno is the play...and just waiting on a TB response?
[11/30/2011 3:53:23 PM] Red_Ryu: yeah
[11/30/2011 4:41:01 PM] Red_Ryu: So we're going to vote Inferno?
[11/30/2011 4:41:16 PM] Red_Ryu: if we'ere agrred then we'll do that after T-Block posts
[11/30/2011 4:41:37 PM] John P.: Yep, looks like nothing's going to be changing
[11/30/2011 4:42:42 PM] Red_Ryu: Also wanna be careful of T-Block
[11/30/2011 4:42:49 PM] Red_Ryu: he needs a reread for me
[12/5/2011 7:43:19 PM] Red_Ryu: hey you there?
[12/5/2011 8:35:45 PM] John P.: Yeah
[12/5/2011 8:35:49 PM] John P.: Sorry didn't see this notification
[12/5/2011 8:37:31 PM] Red_Ryu: np
[12/5/2011 8:37:43 PM] Red_Ryu: so what is up with mafia atm?
[12/5/2011 8:38:07 PM] John P.: The Hydra - I've been wanting to post reads or something, but I feel that without knowing where *you* are at, I could create a very confising situation
[12/5/2011 8:39:00 PM] John P.: Therefore, I try to answer small things at hand to prevent the prods while you are away
[12/5/2011 8:39:28 PM] Red_Ryu: oh
[12/5/2011 8:39:36 PM] Red_Ryu: don;t feel afraid to take center stage
[12/5/2011 8:39:39 PM] Red_Ryu: because
[12/5/2011 8:39:50 PM] Red_Ryu: T-block may have said it in housepets but
[12/5/2011 8:39:54 PM] Red_Ryu: if your a strong enough player
[12/5/2011 8:40:08 PM] Red_Ryu: taking center stage is a town tell sinc eyou got nothing to hide if you do it right
[12/5/2011 8:40:13 PM] Red_Ryu: if your scum
[12/5/2011 8:40:21 PM] Red_Ryu: and good players all are taking the initiative
[12/5/2011 8:40:27 PM] Red_Ryu: it will tell who is scum
[12/5/2011 8:40:34 PM] John P.: I see your point
[12/5/2011 8:40:38 PM] John P.: Alright
[12/5/2011 8:41:02 PM] Red_Ryu: well anyways
[12/5/2011 8:41:07 PM] Red_Ryu: thanks for the help
[12/5/2011 8:41:10 PM] Red_Ryu: lets look it over
[12/5/2011 8:41:14 PM] Red_Ryu: I think T-Block is scum
[12/5/2011 8:41:21 PM] Red_Ryu: Werekill idk
[12/5/2011 8:41:30 PM] Red_Ryu: his reads sorta feel like town tells
[12/5/2011 8:42:01 PM] John P.: Werekill keeps using self-meta
[12/5/2011 8:42:21 PM] John P.: Making us feel sorry by apologizing for sounding dramatic
[12/5/2011 8:42:35 PM] John P.: His playstyle, although he said he was changing it, seems different in this game
[12/5/2011 8:42:50 PM] Red_Ryu: ok let's talk about it
[12/5/2011 8:42:51 PM] Red_Ryu: for me
[12/5/2011 8:42:57 PM] Red_Ryu: I feel like hsi playstyle is riding on it
[12/5/2011 8:43:04 PM] Red_Ryu: but I;m not certain
[12/5/2011 8:43:12 PM] Red_Ryu: I feel like in past games he never did that
[12/5/2011 8:43:23 PM] Red_Ryu: in this one he is using it to excuse himself more
[12/5/2011 8:43:34 PM] John P.: Yes
[12/5/2011 8:44:14 PM] John P.: He is doing a lot more, it seems, than what I was reading in MM
[12/5/2011 8:44:32 PM] John P.: As in he is seriously trying to get as much info out there into the playfield as he can
[12/5/2011 8:46:01 PM] John P.: If you read it, what's your thought on T-Block's temporary deaf-ness?
[12/5/2011 8:46:30 PM] Red_Ryu: Ewww
[12/5/2011 8:46:36 PM] Red_Ryu: I hate that part with T-Block
[12/5/2011 8:47:18 PM] John P.: I honestly thought he was trolling, since it seems odd to only have a deaf condition that lasts....15 minutes?
[12/5/2011 8:48:09 PM] John P.: Unless that has something to do...wait a sec
[12/5/2011 8:48:25 PM] Red_Ryu: what did ya find?
[12/5/2011 8:48:33 PM] John P.: Unless it has something to do with his flavor. But - could there have been an explosion or something? (To explain the double killings)
[12/5/2011 8:48:36 PM] John P.: As in, a bomb or something
[12/5/2011 8:49:01 PM] John P.: Therefore a flavor condition or something relating to the bomb harmed his hearing a bit
[12/5/2011 8:49:04 PM] Red_Ryu: Arsonist?
[12/5/2011 8:49:17 PM] John P.: Well it said he was a pile of ashes...not blown up
[12/5/2011 8:49:28 PM] John P.: Uness he *did* blow up somehow, and hurt TB
[12/5/2011 8:49:56 PM] John P.: Or Ryker maybe exploded from one ofhis many powers
[12/5/2011 8:50:09 PM] Red_Ryu: I think it was arsonist
[12/5/2011 8:50:13 PM] Red_Ryu: blown up
[12/5/2011 8:50:20 PM] Red_Ryu: that alone makes me think we are a fire fighter
[12/5/2011 8:50:42 PM] John P.: We kinda are a fire-fighter..We protect from the arsonist with that water spray
[12/5/2011 8:50:57 PM] John P.: Maybe we blocked the arsonist N1, hence the one kill
[12/5/2011 8:51:03 PM] Red_Ryu: wait
[12/5/2011 8:51:06 PM] Red_Ryu: remember
[12/5/2011 8:51:13 PM] Red_Ryu: Ryker stopped all night actions on him
[12/5/2011 8:51:18 PM] Red_Ryu: or was that just kills...
[12/5/2011 8:51:35 PM] John P.: Hmm..I thought I remember him saying he was bulletproof
[12/5/2011 8:51:41 PM] John P.: And then people were calling it OP and whatnot
[12/5/2011 8:52:15 PM] Red_Ryu: If he said it made him BP
[12/5/2011 8:52:22 PM] Red_Ryu: then it is possile for arsonist to target him
[12/5/2011 8:57:29 PM] John P.: But Brosuke is the one who burned..
[12/5/2011 8:57:49 PM] John P.: Could one of Ryker's own actions have caused his death?
[12/5/2011 9:02:49 PM] Red_Ryu: I wonder
[12/5/2011 9:02:52 PM] Red_Ryu: since
[12/5/2011 9:02:58 PM] Red_Ryu: we did spray brosuke down
[12/5/2011 9:04:50 PM] John P.: Yeah?
[12/5/2011 9:05:28 PM] Red_Ryu: we did
[12/5/2011 9:05:32 PM] Red_Ryu: and hje died from an explosion
[12/5/2011 9:05:37 PM] Red_Ryu: I'm confused
[12/5/2011 9:06:11 PM] John P.: We sprayed Brosuke N1. He died N2. We sprayed Zeke N2, and he's still alive...
[12/5/2011 9:07:02 PM] Red_Ryu: yeah I don't get it
[12/5/2011 9:07:07 PM] John P.: We don't know that Brosuke exploded; it only said that he was a pile of ashed
[12/5/2011 9:07:10 PM] John P.: *ashes
[12/5/2011 9:07:48 PM] Red_Ryu: I don;t get it atm
[12/5/2011 9:09:13 PM] John P.: Okay then..speculation on why Meadow is comatose?
[12/5/2011 9:09:23 PM] Red_Ryu: hmmm
[12/5/2011 9:09:27 PM] John P.: Could it be a role similar to poison, where it is a delayed effect?
[12/5/2011 9:09:28 PM] Red_Ryu: maybe an abductor like role
[12/5/2011 9:09:41 PM] Red_Ryu: nah
[12/5/2011 9:09:41 PM] John P.: Or abductor yes...but in that case, when does he become "healed"
[12/5/2011 9:09:43 PM] Red_Ryu: he is stilll alive
[12/5/2011 9:09:58 PM] John P.: Does a town doc or something need to target him?
[12/5/2011 9:10:14 PM] Red_Ryu: I'm not sure atm
[12/5/2011 9:10:23 PM] Red_Ryu: I need deep thought for this
[12/5/2011 9:10:26 PM] Red_Ryu: if not
[12/5/2011 9:10:32 PM] Red_Ryu: we might wanna focus on scum picks
[12/5/2011 9:10:38 PM] John P.: True
[12/5/2011 9:10:44 PM] Red_Ryu: since it;s our only lead if people don't agree with a massclaim
[12/5/2011 9:11:11 PM] John P.: We have, what, three people (counting our hydra) that agree to it?
[12/5/2011 9:11:24 PM] John P.: Only problem with a massclaim is the setup...everything is possible
[12/5/2011 9:12:19 PM] John P.: I could claim Earplugs: prevent hearing loss by someone else and easilly be scum
[12/5/2011 9:12:32 PM] Red_Ryu: nah
[12/5/2011 9:12:40 PM] Red_Ryu: if we claim he do it by the book and be honest
[12/5/2011 9:12:45 PM] Red_Ryu: because it shows town intent
[12/5/2011 9:12:51 PM] Red_Ryu: wer gotta tell the truth
[12/5/2011 9:12:59 PM] Red_Ryu: lying can help town
[12/5/2011 9:13:04 PM] Red_Ryu: but not in this case
[12/5/2011 9:13:52 PM] John P.: Yeah, that's a good point..
[12/5/2011 9:14:45 PM] Red_Ryu: I wanna se a mass claim since 1. I think today might be a do or die situation with how last night went
[12/5/2011 9:14:54 PM] Red_Ryu: 2. I think we can catch scum from it
[12/5/2011 9:14:56 PM] John P.: The # of kills..
[12/5/2011 9:15:03 PM] Red_Ryu: exactly
[12/5/2011 9:15:05 PM] Red_Ryu: + the coma
[12/5/2011 9:15:09 PM] John P.: Yeah
[12/5/2011 9:15:37 PM] John P.: Town Reads: My mind wants to say Werekill is town, simply because of all he is posting, but his meta is rubbing me wrong
[12/5/2011 9:16:16 PM] Red_Ryu: I'll trust ya on that
[12/5/2011 9:16:20 PM] Red_Ryu: for T-Block
[12/5/2011 9:16:21 PM] Red_Ryu: like
[12/5/2011 9:16:34 PM] Red_Ryu: He is screaminf ascum to me
[12/5/2011 9:17:15 PM] John P.: Kantrip: He has town intent behind his posts, but I need to read into him more (and haven't seen him for a bit)
[12/5/2011 9:19:01 PM] Red_Ryu: Gorf i'm unsure
[12/5/2011 9:19:07 PM] Red_Ryu: his proactiveness is good
[12/5/2011 9:19:17 PM] Red_Ryu: it;s the lack of good reasons it making me go eh
[12/5/2011 9:19:42 PM] John P.: Composer - I completely forgot he was in this game until someone mentioned it earlier
[12/5/2011 9:20:40 PM] John P.: I don't remember seeing a V/LA from him, so I'm wondering if he is really gone, or trying to hide
[12/5/2011 9:30:22 PM] Red_Ryu: I think he is gone
[12/5/2011 9:30:26 PM] Red_Ryu: based on what I know from him
[12/5/2011 9:30:36 PM] Red_Ryu: since I stay at his placetwo weeks ago
[12/5/2011 9:30:37 PM] Red_Ryu: it's inactivity
[12/5/2011 9:31:55 PM] John P.: Alright
[12/5/2011 9:37:57 PM] Red_Ryu: umm
[12/5/2011 9:38:01 PM] Red_Ryu: so for scum
[12/5/2011 9:38:07 PM] Red_Ryu: isdk outside of T-Block
[12/5/2011 9:38:51 PM] John P.: Thought on Moth?
[12/5/2011 9:41:24 PM] Red_Ryu: Oh moth
[12/5/2011 9:41:28 PM] Red_Ryu: I forgot him
[12/5/2011 9:41:30 PM] Red_Ryu: he's null[/collapse]

 

[T-block]

oh cool

RR i didn't know what to think of you this game man... when you came out saying i was matching my meta and stuff i was mad impressed, but then you were like JAYKAY I JUST WANTED A READ and i was like >_<"

i was defs most scared of you in the end, although i was pretty confident i'd be able to discredit anything you pulled up against me with how you played earlier =\ i haven't read your logs yet though, so maybe that will explain something. i killed you because that's what zeke would have done.

 

[Dooms]

I'm sad that I was force replaced .

I'm even more sad that my replacement didn't play xD.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

1. Ryker - Beautiful early game play, drew both fatal night actions on N2 (effectively setting Meadow back to square one) and just did well pretty much overall. I really liked your flavor/role in that so long as you played it right, there was no reason for a cool night action to never get used.
2. Soupamario - You didn't get modkilled!
3. Brosuke - You made a lot of solid connections, just not to the right players generally hahaha. You had Werekill as super duper town for the same reasons I would have put him as mafia, but such is life man.
4. Werekill - Your play worked out here, but playing the same noob card is going to stop working for you before too long man. Just a friendly word of warning.
5. Kantrip - I regret making it optional for people to take your barrels in the regard that you only got to use it once (I'm curious as to your thought process for choosing Soup with it, btw), but the fact that they would override a players actual abilities made it necessary to program some kind of flaw into it.
6. Acrostic - D1, we've all been there man. I still think you're a good player, just sometimes they get ya early ha.
7. JO_OEY - STAY OUT OF SKYPE CALLS YOU BONER
8. Composer - Really, thank you a bunch for replacing in. In the end it just delayed the inevitable modkill, but at least I had more time to attempt to get a replacement in.
9. felipe_9595 - Replacing out makes me cry
10. T-Block - Stupendous play imo, though not as stupendous towards the end of the game. Still good, and probably my personal pick for MVP
11. LAK - Whhhhhhyyyyyy did you target yourself twice with your night action? Hint: You were not the player who needed to cool down, it was Meadowsizzle! There was a whole dynamic that would have been triggered if you had hit him, in which he would have been recruited to town and a QT between you would have been opened (a concept stolen from Pizza Mafia iirc). There's more to it, but I'll detail it later.
12. Inferno3044 - Another good PR that didn't get much time in the sun. Makes me
13. Zeke_The_Moth - You guys should have seen my face when T-block had originally targeted you guys instead of Meadowsizzle, but before all the night actions were in he changed his mind. That was a massive swing in the game.
14. Meadowsizzle - You guys played really well, and had you made it to the end would have been a lock for MVP.
15. Gordito - Sorry I broke your spine, but at least you survived! Good play on your end.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

T-block, if you had targeted Gorf instead the game would have continued which would have been crazaaaay