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#HBC | ѕoup

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I dunno, Ryker just seems so relevant in this game now, almost he has made himself the star, and every time i try to look at him with a scum partner team, i can't seem to do it, and i almost don't want to.
 

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It's funny because I still have no damn clue what you're referring to.

Yes, Ryker is so damn relevant and making himself the centerpoint of the game. I don't think he'd make his scumbuddy obvious unless he trusted his buddy enough not to get caught or he knew he could get away with his partner's flip.

Judge his play. This is the last time I'm saying this. If you suspect him, crackpot conspiracy theories are not good reasons to feel that way.
 

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And from what I can tell from this, a lot of Ryker's conversation with Kantrip about hammering is setting up this crumb of what he can gain from it. It's really quite obvious in hindsight, but it's also somewhat vague and open-ended.
 

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EBWOP: The vague part isn't what bothers me, it's how open-ended it can be that sends up a red flag.

But his reads are lining up with mine at the moment, so I'm perfectly okay with him.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I don't suspect him, but i have put myself in this situation where i am re-reading that part of the game where Ryker just takes a steel chair to the game.
 

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I don't suspect him, but i have put myself in this situation where i am re-reading that part of the game where Ryker just takes a steel chair to the game.
He does this every game. It's not indicative of alignment.

The reason it wasn't obvious is because Ryker could say the same things when they're not true.


It's a crumb, he's not going to outright clarify what he's getting at. His play lines up with his claim.
 

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Serious question to all you dudes putting a damper to Ryker's game: As long as what Ryker is doing is not something you think is scummy, or not something you think will cause a detriment to your scumhunting... Why do you care?
gorf i love you

hey guys, this is a thing that hasn't really stopped being true or anything.
 

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I always feel so... rejected by you Meadow.

I'm saying why it wasn't obvious yesterDay. I'm not saying it doesn't hold weight.
 

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I don't really understand what you're trying to get at by that then. The point I've been trying to make is that Ryker's play matches up with his goals. If you want to question him, question the motive of positioning himself to take Acrostic's power, using it on himself, and then following it up by calling for doc to follow him all game. That's incredibly self-centered and is the one thing preventing me from outright trusting him.

However, his reads are lining up with mine and a lot of the things he's said about Acrostic and Inferno are things he's beaten me to the punch on. .
 

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All I was doing is responding to your #645. I was saying why it wasn't obvious at the time, even though you claim it was obvious in hindsight.
 

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That's exactly what I was saying though. :v His crumb is obvious in hindsight, now that we have the knowledge of his claim.
 

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That's usually what crumbs are, then. Something that people may not pick up on originally that will fit perfectly once you point it out. I thought you were saying that in hindsight his crumbs were really obvious and you can't believe you didn't pick up on them or something like that.
 

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After the trouble it was to replace Joey, I will be modkilling Felipe's slot in a few days unless someone volunteers.

Anyone else who replaces out (and isn't dead irl) will be black listed from any further games I run. If you can't play, don't sign up.
 

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That's usually what crumbs are, then. Something that people may not pick up on originally that will fit perfectly once you point it out. I thought you were saying that in hindsight his crumbs were really obvious and you can't believe you didn't pick up on them or something like that.
I was never saying anything like that. Ryker's crumbs are generally not meant to be found, he usually has to point them out.

See: Our Gastrodon crumb in UPickemon.
 

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Actually I do recall soup failing hard in Upick lol.

Honestly I'm still confused on what to think of the Acro case. When I first looked at it I thought Ryker was just creating a bunch of WIFOM off a meaningless thing about Soup's flavor crumb (which I still don't know yet). Although I still think that's true and don't want to put my vote on him yet, I do see some of the points. I don't like how Ryker wants him to claim so early. We have 5 days remaining and there are people still yet to post. On top of that, Ryker words how he wants Acro to claim so poorly it hurts. Really Ryker?
So. Why. Don't. You. Question. Him. About. It. If. You. Don't. Understand. Instead. Of. Asking. For. ****. You. Don't. Need. To. Know.
 

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@Meadowsizzle talk to me more about Ryker, I'm sure washed head has something interesting.
why are you always so damn intrigued by what i think about ryker. stop playing off my read of him and think for yourself. he's not as cryptic as he makes himself about to be if you stop and distance yourself from all the WIFOM he causes.
 

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I'd like to ask someone who played with Gorf before how good he is.

Like, make a few areas (pushing and planning should be there fo sho) and rate him 1-10/give an explanation. If nobody does this I'll just go the Ryker route and sell my deeds for their deeds. Doesn't matter if it's short btw.
He's a lot better than most people give him credit but that's because he ****s around a lot. Good player, picks up on things, very proactive and can lead but isn't always right.
 

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@soup- I quoted some posts of his that strike me as scummy. His wording is awful and I see no town intents. This case was based on passing you based on you crumbing your flavor. He really has nothing to work on imo.

:phone:
There's a reason I took over writing in our AM hydra during FF9.

This is bull****, though. His intent is practically crystalline now with everything, you can only question it so much. The more of his posts that I read that aren't him posturing for the hammer are very obvious town in attempt.
 

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EBWOP: P.S. that means I like Ryker. The more I mull it, the more I realize his reasoning for setting himself up for the hammer. I'm not completely against him being scum, but the only reason to suspect him at the moment is basically role speculation. Up to this point, his game is not scum.
 

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There are no minor details in mafia.

Besides it's day1. I nedd everything I can get and if I have to ask (i dont think im THAT verbal Bout it) some 'weird' questions for it than thats how it is. Ive learned some things at least.


Besides, none of you scumbags bother looking into 'minor' details, and none of you is secretive enough to deny me info I need so I guess im good Eh?

That said my readlist is really fleshed out by now, bar a few exceptions

:phone:
Given the fact that everything Acro used to defend himself was a minor detail leading away from his own scumminess, I'm calling bull**** on that first line.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Vote: Ryker

You have some explaining to do.
"No one died", but yet his body is missing?
Something tells me you forget who got lynched.
Hmm, but why did he note that Acro's body is missing if he got lynched.
If someone gets lynched, they die and that's it...there usually isn't "follow-up" as to where their body went.

Interesting that there was no NK.
I kinda lol'd at this exchange.

I'm not gonna think much into the disappearing bodies thing, a theory can be that it's a enter-scum-PR-here used to counter enter-town-PR-here. But who the eff cares at this point, it was a body that disappeared due to a lynch.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Infoerno said:
You mean the mafia game where you and Ryker won due to bussing Panta with Ryker's extra kill? If anything Upick Poke-mafia makes me believe more that Ryker is scum.

Vote: Ryker
The f*** is this s***?
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Ryker said:
Inferno, as impossible as it is for you to believe, the case I made was legitimate and quite damning.

I reiterate, why does reading you always have to be a crapshoot? Hey, Gorf, Werekill, Xonar, LAK, and Moth, gimmie an Inferno read.
I don't like em.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Kantrip said:
Yeah that's my only problem. I find it hard to believe that you happened to find scum with this.

That claim is interesting. The whole "I got a bulletproof ability from my hammer and scum happened to target me too" is a bit hard to fathom, but it makes sense also.

Not clearing you, Ryker, because you could have bussed your scummate and chose to No Kill so your claim would work out.

However, it makes enough sense for now.

Your wagon is me and felipe, and you said one of your wagon is scum? Between me and felipe then, who is it and why?

Unvote
You forgot the scum on your wagon.

Vote: Kantrip

loljk Unvote Vote: Inferno
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Werekill said:
You're basically saying here that we can't put anyone at L-1 because you'll pretty much hammer, correct?
No, he did that cuz he's hilarious. Ryker's just gonna have the hammer bro.

P.S guys I think it's unquestionable that Ryker's town (play wise).
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Obtw cuz I know I'm gonna be questioned about this, when I say (play wise), it's because I'm not going to be letting go of my town read on him unless it's blatantly obvious that Night actions point to him being scum.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Werekill said:
Ugh, I keep wanting to go against you for the quick hammer, but I still can't find anything solid against you. Unless someone else brings up something, I'm moving on to paying more attention to someone else. >_<
I seriously don't get people's problems with Ryker pulling this. 1, it got scum, and 2... Where. The. Hell. Was. This. Game. Going.
 

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Well the quick hammer at least now has some justification. Would've at least liked to have heard Acro claim. I really hope I don't hate myself for this but I'm going to trust Ryker for now. Also I'm also gonna confirm his smog power to be true. I targeted him with my night action and it failed. I still want to know if his smog power can only target himself.

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