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Utah Thread - Dead thread is dead

spiritdragon

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Okay, so here's basically the quick version of the tourney. Got knocked into the loser's bracket just barely by some guy named IzzyInfamous for the tourney, he was using Sonic. As usual, I keep forgetting about Dave's Stupid Rule and we had done FD twice, but this was about ten minutes after the match, so oh well. Knocked a few people around, then barely loss to G&W because I got too hasty and then lost miserably to Fox (definitely need to play those two more). I believe the player was spiritdragon. His tag was Ferdi. Teams were so-so, but I'm amazed at how much back pull I did with the partner I had (we both knew it'd be that way, friend of mine that went with). But, alas, that didn't go much better.

Full report time! In three words: The organization sucked. Let's start with registration.

We found the building (after driving around for about 20 minutes in arriving in the city) and had to wait around for registration to open. That's cool. While in line when it did open, met a few people who were pretty cool. Talked awhile, we noticed our line wasn't moving, so we decided to go to the other line. Stood there for a small sec, when a guy who was a friend of theirs came by and said, "You guys are going to be disappointed. This is the Halo line. Smash line is over there." Same line we were in, yep. That would probably mean they need to put some **** signs up. Anyway, why the line was moving so slow was because the computer had some issues, so it held up for, like, 20 minutes. If they had got a pen and paper they could've done ATD registrations no problem, but noooooo. Wait for the computer to get back up, of course.

Anyway, so it starts way late, that's fine. Fight the first match, lost, that's fine too. However, it took forever for my match to start. Why? Because they decided to break up the 61 competitors into three different brackets. I have no clue why they couldn't, you know, simply do a 64 person bracket. Maybe it was computer limitations? If so, then draw one up by hand. It's not hard folks.

Tournament proceeds slowly. I get information once in awhile, tell them a TV is free and what not. At one point there are FOUR OF SEVEN TVs FREE. I go inform the guy, and he's all, "Hold on, I'm making the next set of brackets." I'm thinking to myself, "If you actually went down the list in order rather than jump around and kept on top of things you wouldn't have to wait." Of course don't say anything. Rather not piss off the staff (though right now I'm cool with it. The only guy who knew how to run this was DancingFighterG). And they keep wondering why things are going slow. I laughed. Also, side note, around this point, I get asked a question time to time as to how the tourney is running. When a player is being asked those questions and not the staff, there is a MAJOR problem folks.

Another thing is they had also changed the rules from what was on the site (example: Yoshi's Island become Counterpickable and Port Town Aero Dive become banned). It didn't bother me that much, but there should've been note of it at least three days before the tourney started. If it was just then that it happened, it shouldn't have happened.

One last thing was they sucked with the whole "disqualification" thing. I understand they want every player to have a chance, but when it has been ten minutes and the player hasn't shown up, get rid of them, please. There's a bathroom rule we use for the DDR tourneys. If you aren't there for your match, then you get one more chance, that chance being the go through the rest of that area (Winners' matches, losers' matches, etc) and then loop back to that person so they can continue the tournament. That probably sounded more confusing.

And I believe when finals came, they took the top two from each bracket (three of them, remember?) and pitted them in another double elim bracket. Don't quote me on that though, that's my assumption from seeing the computer here and there. Though they shouldn't have done the three different brackets, seeing as they did, and did those final six or whatever, round robin would be the best way to go. But hey, that's all my assumption, so please do NOT take my word on that.

Players were pretty chill. Met some awesome people. I'm pretty sure I have the best Zelda though from the matches I had. I fought like, two or three Zeldas and won all of those. One guy had a pretty sick Zelda/Sheik combo though.
Unfortunately, most of Colorado agrees with you. I don't know why I thought they were using Tio for their brackets, but C3T uses different tournament brackets for some reason. And the Tivoli is amazingly hard to find for first timers(not new mexico when they came wtf?) The worst thing mentioned though, is how there were OPEN TVs GO****! A lot, and I mean A LOT of people told the guy to start the next bracket, and nothing would happen. Nite somehow basically got taken over by that other staff for smash wtf? We've thought many times that we're just going to go with our own tournaments, but we're going to see how brawl tournaments would work out, and this was our biggest starting one to date, we'd like to see how many people would show/rules/working on stuff before we start ours. Sorry about everything, our C3Ts(DFG and his staff) usually fail.

Still, mad props for coming, awesome Zelda, dunno, maybe if you guys held a massive tourney we'd go OOS.
 

Tsuteto

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Yeah, figure that now. Won't compete in one for at least another 3 years though. Mission coming up XD

And on that note as well, if mission wasn't coming up I'd see if I can't get a big one going. Got the connections, just would need to the time. Unless FTS would want to host one in the summer, I'm sure I can get everything started. FTS, you'd be down for doing that?
 

InterimOfZeal

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IzzyInfamous is my other handle. Sorry I forgot about DSR, that tournament was ******** stressful. I ended up losing to a complete scrub, and the Ferdi. Or was Ferdi the complete scrub? Lololol. Be careful about how much you rely on sidestep dsmash. It messed me up for a while, and still did alright in general because I suuuuuck, but it's what allowed me to pull the win. Well, that and the fsmash, fully charged, bs, etc etc. XD

Other than that, not bad.

Sorry C3T ended up being run HORRIBLY. They took over smash from us. Our director didn't even get to do his job, and was instead replaced by some dumb**** that allowed as many as 4 TVs to be open at any given moment, and was generally an annoying idiot. Really sorry. That wasn't CO smash running it, it was just some asshat. That's the problem with C3T. Good money, stupid *******s randomly take over, though. At least the ruleset isn't TOO retarted, even if Nite went and changed the neutrals to fit his preferences.
 

Demolisho

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Yeah, figure that now. Won't compete in one for at least another 3 years though. Mission coming up XD

And on that note as well, if mission wasn't coming up I'd see if I can't get a big one going. Got the connections, just would need to the time. Unless FTS would want to host one in the summer, I'm sure I can get everything started. FTS, you'd be down for doing that?
I don't know why I was surprised when I read this, then I noticed you're in Utah. I'm CO's resident mormon player.
 

Tsuteto

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Seriously, I was like "Three neutrals? WTF?"

And yeah, I've been noticing I sidestep way too much in general. Works well in wifi, not realtime as much, but still just enough if there's enough lag on the attack.

I don't know why I was surprised when I read this, then I noticed you're in Utah. I'm CO's resident mormon player.
Ah. Yeah, though I'm going on a mission, my language still needs some fixin'. If you were watching me and Fredi fight you probably heard me drop the f-bomb after our match.

Next time I go OOS: Get there with more time than two hours before a tourney, even if I sleep the whole ride up XD
 

Demolisho

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Ah. Yeah, though I'm going on a mission, my language still needs some fixin'. If you were watching me and Fredi fight you probably heard me drop the f-bomb after our match.

Next time I go OOS: Get there with more time than two hours before a tourney, even if I sleep the whole ride up XD
****ing language doesn't need to be changed. **** that. I cuss all the ****ing time. I went on a mission, I'm still active, I have 3 callings, and I don't give a ****. Don't worry about it until you wear the mantle.

*edit*
You can IM me at DemolishoCola via aim. You seem like a pretty cool guy from the tourney. And tell DFG that usurping is stupid.
 

Tsuteto

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****ing language doesn't need to be changed. **** that. I cuss all the ****ing time. I went on a mission, I'm still active, I have 3 callings, and I don't give a ****. Don't worry about it until you wear the mantle.

*edit*
You can IM me at DemolishoCola via aim. You seem like a pretty cool guy from the tourney. And tell DFG that usurping is stupid.
Hell yes! I think you just became my new favorite person! After living in Utah, it's like you say so much as "***" you're shunned. Save for the crew I went up with to the tourney. They all are like "meh" and stuff and cool with it.

As for AIM, rarely will you see me. I don't like AIM. Though if you use the gtalk or whatever thing with gmail, I'm there time to time. tsuteto@gmail.com is the address.

EDIT: And I think I'm falling in love with Peach again. She's got huge range. Probably because she doesn't mind flashing everyone her crotch....
 

sLicK.tdf

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UTAH!!! You guys should check out Az1-2-Step on june14-15th. we're hoping for many of the OOS Southwest brawlers to make their way over here. So we can find out who's the best in SW. We're also expecting a few crews from Socal to head out to.

check out cizber.com for pre-reg and rules
 

EoW

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one person is not enough for a entire state not to show! no johns son!
 

Tsuteto

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Most of Utah hates Brawl. They all want Melee back, but of course aren't going to get rid of Brawl completely.

Yeah, I'm in the minority here....
 

Junpappy

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Most of Utah hates Tsuteto :laugh:

jk jk

But seriously Brawl sucks. I'm not going to go OOS until its a major national tournament liek teh FCz!!
 

Tsuteto

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Hartford, Connecticut. Unless my parents feel I'm not ready, then CT has a lot to fear <insert evil fox smiley here>
 

lengeta

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I'll consider going to AZ's tourny. Depends on a lot of things I won't know for quite some time though.
 

Junpappy

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I hate traveling by car so it'd have to be a **** good experience to make the plane ticket worth the money.
 

slave1

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come on sucker lick my battery
i love brawl. i am done with melee. and i got a new keybaord so i am getting use to it. and it is hard to type.

i need to practice more. too much school and halo is so sexy. it consumes time. if i had a wii i would practice more.
 

EoW

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Hey guys for those of you showing interest in Az's tourney we have a confirmed venue Location: 202 N. Sycamore Mesa, AZ 85201
 

Perfect Chaos

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It's funny how the majority of the people around here fall into one of the following two groups (although they may not admit it)...
1: They hate it, with the main reason being that they can't win as often as before due to the change in the metagame.
2: They love it, with the main reason being that the character(s) they played in Melee sucked and/or they couldn't win as often in Melee as they can in Brawl.
I'm proud to say that I don't fall into either of these two groups! :)
 

Tsuteto

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I'd probably fall more into the second category, but not because my character sucked in Melee. She was still awesome... just really really hard to use. That's why I had Marth and Peach XD
 

~S@G3~

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I would have to say that i like both for different reasons, but i see no sense in trying to practice two games at once. or just giving up on a game that we waited so long for,
 

harpuia190

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It's funny how the majority of the people around here fall into one of the following two groups (although they may not admit it)...
1: They hate it, with the main reason being that they can't win as often as before due to the change in the metagame.
2: They love it, with the main reason being that the character(s) they played in Melee sucked and/or they couldn't win as often in Melee as they can in Brawl.
I'm proud to say that I don't fall into either of these two groups! :)
ha i don't fall into either of those!
 

lengeta

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My Melee Falco was decent, but definitely behind. Winning/losing has nothing to do with why I prefer to play Brawl, it's just the new game to move onto. I still like the feel of Melee better, but Brawl is still incredibly young, and I actually haven't faced off with you guys in a tournament, so I could still drop down into 12th place or whatever anyway. I think your categories are off; it's not competence people miss, its all the comboing and skill they developed they miss.
 

TheBuzzSaw

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Continuing to play Melee is one thing; dumping Brawl is another, and it could be fatal. I am rather shocked that Utah is considering dumping Brawl entirely. You have to keep in mind that the Brawl community is already ridiculously huge, and growing quite fast. Cleaving unto Melee will only decrease chances of new members joining the community.

It also pains me to see anyone considering abandoning Brawl after one to two months of it being out in America. Melee has had over six years to develop; how is judging Brawl right now even remotely fair? Sure, continue playing Melee for fun. It is a great game after all, but keep competing in Brawl! Even if a smash game came out that was 400x better than Melee, none of you would ever discover that by giving up one month into the new game. Wavedashing, l-canceling, and teching were not immediately common tactics when Melee came out. It took YEARS to reach that point...

Sorry to hear about the Colorado blunder. IoZ, come visit me.
 

Tsuteto

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It's the "read between the lines and interpret your own way" thing that's going around.

Doesn't effect me, unless I decide that I don't want to go on my mission XD
 

harpuia190

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Continuing to play Melee is one thing; dumping Brawl is another, and it could be fatal. I am rather shocked that Utah is considering dumping Brawl entirely. You have to keep in mind that the Brawl community is already ridiculously huge, and growing quite fast. Cleaving unto Melee will only decrease chances of new members joining the community.

It also pains me to see anyone considering abandoning Brawl after one to two months of it being out in America. Melee has had over six years to develop; how is judging Brawl right now even remotely fair? Sure, continue playing Melee for fun. It is a great game after all, but keep competing in Brawl! Even if a smash game came out that was 400x better than Melee, none of you would ever discover that by giving up one month into the new game. Wavedashing, l-canceling, and teching were not immediately common tactics when Melee came out. It took YEARS to reach that point...

Sorry to hear about the Colorado blunder. IoZ, come visit me.
Fp, S@G3, and I are currently looking into hosting some tourneys that will be predominantly brawl, and upon searching for people who want to come we have found a lot of people who want to play, both old and new. So in no way is the brawl scene in utah dying anytime soon
 

Xsyven

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I love Brawl. I honestly think that I'd do great at a tournament, if I had the time to go to one. :( Having Melee alongside Brawl at tournament isn't a bad idea at all. Hell, I'd support the idea of SSB64 singles along side Brawl and Melee as well.

We should do an online crew battle. All of you vs. my Wolf and 'chu.
 

spiritdragon

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Continuing to play Melee is one thing; dumping Brawl is another, and it could be fatal. I am rather shocked that Utah is considering dumping Brawl entirely. You have to keep in mind that the Brawl community is already ridiculously huge, and growing quite fast. Cleaving unto Melee will only decrease chances of new members joining the community.

It also pains me to see anyone considering abandoning Brawl after one to two months of it being out in America. Melee has had over six years to develop; how is judging Brawl right now even remotely fair? Sure, continue playing Melee for fun. It is a great game after all, but keep competing in Brawl! Even if a smash game came out that was 400x better than Melee, none of you would ever discover that by giving up one month into the new game. Wavedashing, l-canceling, and teching were not immediately common tactics when Melee came out. It took YEARS to reach that point...

Sorry to hear about the Colorado blunder. IoZ, come visit me.
Excuse me please?

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=516492&topic=42199054

Also keep in mind we weren't looking for advanced techniques at all save the ones already known(such as L cancelling), in brawl, we have everyone and their mothers looking for advanced techniques.
 

lengeta

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If anyone has room i would like to go to that AZ tournament with you guys :)
I'm planning on going, but right now details are sketchy. I'll let you know once I've secured transportation.

::EDIT::
Buzz said when it became a common tactic, not when it was first discovered. It took a long time for Melee players to figure out how everyone was playing it a few months ago.
 
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