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BillNyeTheSamusGuy

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so who is actually going to best buy 2moro? I'm planning on going but the idea of hanging out with 50 randoms is daunting
 

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It's Utah 3ds that's handling most of this you know???
They'll pack up and go home before giving rj any authority
I trust tsu would get dibs on putting a tourney together
And they know me pretty well too
 

ZeroKarasu

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I would be there tomorrow, but I need a ride there, you see.
 

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Y'all have my number. If Best Buy is trying to do anything "tourney" related then give them my damn number. Going to try to show up myself to look at it, but probably going to be late to the party. Like, after five or so.
 

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so who is actually going to best buy 2moro? I'm planning on going but the idea of hanging out with 50 randoms is daunting
I'll more than likely be there. I barely signed up on these boards, though. I don't know anyone here. I guess it can't hurt to meet some of ya.
 

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I'm really sad about the flood updates. I was super happy about the Gamecube controller adapter, but none of it seems to matter given the continuing nerfs. I see no effort to innovate. Where are the new movement options? Why is Sakurai hellbent on taking things away? How on earth do the developers evaluate balance anyway?
 

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Dashing... has been nerfed.

How do you screw up footsies? This is how.

Ugh.
 
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I'm really sad about the flood updates. I was super happy about the Gamecube controller adapter, but none of it seems to matter given the continuing nerfs. I see no effort to innovate. Where are the new movement options? Why is Sakurai hellbent on taking things away? How on earth do the developers evaluate balance anyway?
Maybe this was a trial run. Maybe they had tons of questionnaires and interviews asking for feedback from the competitors. Maybe they've got plans to implement more changes before the final release. Maybe the ledge options were innovative.

Oh wait all of that is true lol.
 

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I'm just a little bit angry.

But it's not over yet. We still have way until October to see if they can get this to be perfect.
 

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Dashing... has been nerfed.

How do you screw up footsies? This is how.

Ugh.
wtf??
dash dancing is roughly the same as in brawl
and tripping has been removed
so dashing has been nothing but buffed
and everything seems faster

this is what i got will im looking foward to
 
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The invitational seemed more like a commercial to me. I don't think they'll be changing much of anything at this point. I think that Nintendo is just trying to hype people up for the game and get sales. I would love to sound optimistic and say differently, but this is about what I expected from the new Super Smash game.
 

BillNyeTheSamusGuy

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Maybe this was a trial run. Maybe they had tons of questionnaires and interviews asking for feedback from the competitors. Maybe they've got plans to implement more changes before the final release. Maybe the ledge options were innovative.

Oh wait all of that is true lol.
lol tuesdays 2 states away and still droppin the knowledge

@ OkamiFur OkamiFur samus was dropped from the roster because she's not balanced yet, sakurai was afraid that the game was gonna crash during the invitational, not to mention the above note from tuesday

i don't think the game is quite finished
 
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Supposedly you can't crouch cancel or shield cancel the dash. Not certain, though. We'll see soon enough.
 

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Maybe this was a trial run. Maybe they had tons of questionnaires and interviews asking for feedback from the competitors. Maybe they've got plans to implement more changes before the final release. Maybe the ledge options were innovative.

Oh wait all of that is true lol.
This doesn't make me feel better. Do you honestly think they'll fix everything? "Our bad! Here, have all your advanced techniques back!" They have made so many deliberate design decisions to restrict the game even further. Here, I thought the game would be a huge improvement over Brawl, but instead, we have a laundry list of defects that need to be corrected just for the game to resemble Brawl.

Meanwhile, the Brawl demo had awesome mechanics. Players excitedly reported the presence of (automated) L-canceling and fantastic dash-dancing (mainly Sonic's). The final game broke both those things. Where were the questionnaires then?

Sorry, I just don't have faith in Nintendo to address this. I would LOVE for them to prove me wrong.
 

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Supposedly you can't crouch cancel or shield cancel the dash. Not certain, though. We'll see soon enough.
you can't shield cancel the dash animation in brawl either only the running animation
buts thats why we have this SCSG
you can CC dashes in brawl to an extent but since CCing moves is gone
and you can't dsmash while crouching only dtilt its not as useful
but imo CCing moves is a broken dumb mechanic and im glad its gone
 

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Meh. I had fun with all the smash games. I'll have fun with this.

If it's not quite so fast paced and tech skill oriented as Melee I might not get too competitive, but I'm still interested in where it's going.
 

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Hey.... at least there's combos this time.... however there doesn't seem to be too many follow up options. Hopefully the game gets tweaked around to be good.
 

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I'm not saying everything will be fine and dandy release day, I'm just saying it's very preemptive to say the game has/doesn't have ANYTHING, even at this point.

Crying over spilled milk when it's still in the fridge, yo.
 

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I'm not saying everything will be fine and dandy release day, I'm just saying it's very preemptive to say the game has/doesn't have ANYTHING, even at this point.
Crying over spilled milk when it's still in the fridge, yo.
its not even in the fridge man its still in the cow
 

Tuesday

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No he doesn't. It looks like a spot dodge.

Look, all the people who played it today said DD was impossible. No matter how fast you tried.

Fox trotting works, though. So a multi-directional fox trot could happen.

Don't you think PP would've been DDing like mad today if it were possible?

Edit: Oh I was looking at 1:38. 1:28 looks like he may have ledge canceled a fall or something. Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that it couldn't be done by any conventional means by any of the pros.
 
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How bout you guys stfu and stop ****ting up the thread with your scrubby complaints you guys all suck anyways
 

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Edit: Oh I was looking at 1:38. 1:28 looks like he may have ledge canceled a fall or something. Regardless, that doesn't change the fact that it couldn't be done by any conventional means by any of the pros.
Idk man... really looks like dash dancing to me... I could definitely be wrong given the quality of the video. It is possible that there's some weird timing to it. I'm just speculating here but maybe pressing left and right as fast as possible isn't the way to do it and instead there's a specific window to where you can dash back? Idk I'm just throwing stuff out.
 
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Hey peoples, I think we might be able to play the game before its official release to maybe try and see if any of this stuff is possible. Just get your **** to best buy tomorrow or saturday and you can find out yourself

wow **** is censored. didnt see that coming
 
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Superw0rri0

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Ok... i was gonna post this but then the site went down for maintenance... check this out:

I paused during that spot where mario was possibly dash dancing and if you look at it a few frames at time this is what you get:

Go to 1:28 and look at mario:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOYyCYVQiEA

picture 1: landing
picture 2: dash forward
picture 3: dash back


For all we know two things are happening here:
1. actual dash dance
2. something happened that only looked like a dash dance

Who knows.. maybe it's only possible on moving platforms kind of like how in brawl platform canceling is only possible on moving platforms
 
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