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need more drama here

the forum i mainly frequent recently had a Thunderdome of Bull**** megathread and it turned immediately into ad hominem attacks and most of us getting banned. gotta love heated discussion. then one of our married members had an affair with another user from canada who has ****ty teeth. just another day in the life of jimmy nutron
 
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Guys, something similar to L-Canceling was just found in Smash 4, only it's harder to do (close to frame perfect) and doesnt work on every aerial:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spHWz-9F7c

The way it works is, if you hit with a move the frame you're about to land, then fastfall on the same frame, you'll cancel your hitlag and immediately go into landing lag, generally cutting around half to 2/3rds of your lag, so move that you can land during the same frame the hitbox comes out work with this (ie most moves, mostly just uairs wont work).
 
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Z'zgashi said:
Guys, something similar to L-Canceling was just found in Smash 4, only it's harder to do (close to frame perfect) and doesnt work on every aerial:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spHWz-9F7c

The way it works is, if you hit with a move the frame you're about to land, then fastfall on the same frame, you'll cancel your hitlag and immediately go into landing lag, generally cutting around half to 2/3rds of your lag, so move that you can land during the same frame the hitbox comes out work with this (ie most moves, mostly just uairs wont work).
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It's a shame it doesn't work on shield. Good stuff though.
 
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SoapSuds

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@ Z'zgashi Z'zgashi The description you provided is definitely wrong for Falcon. Looking at it frame by frame it looks like C.F is going through his landing lag and hitstun at the same time (You can tell he hit the ground by the dust cloud.) The source video is much more interesting
 
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SoapSuds said:
@ Z'zgashi Z'zgashi The description you provided is definitely wrong for Falcon. Looking at it frame by frame it looks like C.F is going through his landing lag and hitstun at the same time (You can tell he hit the ground by the dust cloud.) The source video is much more interesting
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...No, my description is correct, he goes through them at the same time because, how it works, is that on the last frame before landing, if your character's model touches the ground at all (aka Falcon's toes in the gif and Falco's toes in the video), your fast fall will instantly ground you in the middle of your hitlag, which cancels hitlag and instantly skips to landing lag, hence the last frame thing. Look at the Falcon gif, he gets the dust cloud for landing right as the move connects, because he Fast Fall Canceled the hitlag, then look on the left, the landing dust cloud doesnt happen until after because he didnt cancel it.

Basically how it works is you trick the game into thinking you're grounded due to the character model clipping into the ground by inputing a fast fall the first frame of hitlag, which for whatever reason instantly puts you into your landing lag.

Oh and btw, that video as also in my post lol
 
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Weekly tonight! Smash for Wii U starts at 7:30, with Project M afterwards. Venue fee is $5, with the entry fees being $3 per division. Venue fee is waived if you being a Wii U system, with adaptor and unlocked game. I will not accept late entries, so make sure you're there on time before hand.

Also, no stream this week as Nqztv is out of town.
 
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Devon beat Darkpancake? Darkpank cake bodied everyone at the BYU tourney including Kenny. Lol, good **** Devon. If I would have know you were coming I might have gone.
 
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whos coming to vegas next month i MIGHT be able to house extra people
 
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Hi everyone. I'm BBNathan, nice to meet y'all. Currently living in Provo and just started my first semester at the U, looking for some homies to smash with. I pretty much exclusively play Sm4sh at this point because it's the only game I own. (Also the first smash I've taken the time to be decent at) Hit me up!
 
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BBNathan said:
Hi everyone. I'm BBNathan, nice to meet y'all. Currently living in Provo and just started my first semester at the U, looking for some homies to smash with. I pretty much exclusively play Sm4sh at this point because it's the only game I own. (Also the first smash I've taken the time to be decent at) Hit me up!
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when you say "the u" i assume you mean the university of utah
 
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BBNathan said:
Hi everyone. I'm BBNathan, nice to meet y'all. Currently living in Provo and just started my first semester at the U, looking for some homies to smash with. I pretty much exclusively play Sm4sh at this point because it's the only game I own. (Also the first smash I've taken the time to be decent at) Hit me up!
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FEST AT RJS TONIGHT 2522 horseshoe circle go to the house at the back of the driveway 2nd floor. 6:30 pm until dawn. Lagless benq smash 4 or melee!
 
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