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Using the word '****' when pertaining to video games and other stuff...

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/doesn't actually read any of the above answering post: I'm lazy today.

I'd just like to say that is how you feel about the word and how it should not be used. As English and any language is used words are used incorrectly and for good or bad you will have to put up with it.....
Ah, whatever long story short: Language gets changed/misused all the time, just ignore it and life will be good.

Go with the flow man, A lot of internet troubles would be resolved if people just went with the flow.
 

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Not a big deal in my book. Honestly, I can see how some people can be offended by it, but there are much more offensive slangs or slurs that no one bothers to correct.

If someone says "I'm going to kill you" when playing a video game, no one would bat an eyelash.
 

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Don't justify saying the word **** casually by pinning it on the evolution of the English language, that's totally irrelevant. The English language "evolved" the latin derivative "niger" into "negro" and the into the most infamous derogatory term in the English vernacular we now know to be "The N Word." So we evolved from using its original meaning into one of the most vile terms in history, well! I guess that's just what happens right? Wrong. Just because we "evolve" doesnt justify it. Listen to me people.

*There is NO WAY you can justify using this word casually.*

Why do you even try justifying it? Do you realize that you're advocating for the use of this term in a casual light? Step outside yourselves for a second and think about that, I mean jesus, it gives me goosebumps.

It is immoral, inhumane, has no positive impact on you or the community (frankly it makes you look like an ignorant child.) It's not "evolving" it's being desensitized, which is the bane of growth among adolescence these days. And yeah, everything's desensitizing the youth, but that doesn't mean we need to perpetuate it with unnecessary utilization of an extremely offensive word.

I ask of you to do what very few humans can do correctly. Put aside all of your biases, your family, your community, your environment, your upbringing, everything, and just think in a 100% humanitarian way, think the use of this word, how it should and shouldn't be used, and how it impacts who you are and what you stand for when you use it.

If after doing this, you find that it's OK. Well, that being my problem is over.



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you only thing vile about the word ****** is potentially the person who utters it. theres nothing inherently vile in the word itself, which is why it is commonly used by African americans...

I think your confusing vile acts, with words that are associated with those vile acts.

they are not the same thing.

If I heard someone say the word **** who I know is rapist and is using it in a casual manner and making light of **** in the strictness sense of the word I would probably be strongly tempted do something that would be grounds for long jail term

If I were to hear young kids using the term **** who seemed to be using it in a way that seemed to describe it in a positive manner in their own minds, I would certainly be disgusted and try to set them right.

but If I heard a scientist that I knew to be a very good person and not a rapist use the term **** to say describe something not related to sexual violence, such as "oh **** that apple just got ***** by gravity"! I would probably laugh.

basically by scolding us for using the term **** you are implying that we are

glorifying **** (in our own minds not in any object sense of merely using the word)

and are not intelligent enough to realize that **** is a terrible crime.


basically if you know that **** is bad you should be able to use the word ****.


same as if you know that racism is ridiculous you should be able to use ethnic slurs. (disclaimaimer: but only around people who also realize the idiocy of racism lol)


because once you realize that basic truth the negative connotation of the word disappears
 

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Just to clear stuff up, I know people who have been ***** who really DO get upset when people joke about it--and I know women who have been subjected to other sexual violence who get EXTREMELY offended.

My point is, that there is absolutely no reason to use it. Same with gay, or ***, or whatever. Our brains are programmed in a very special way. We don't merely hear the words, we experience the many definitions of them almost at once. That's why some people will get offended at its usage even if it is in a 'joking' context. Just stop using it. Is it that hard? Is it really that hard to stop saying a four letter word? Do you have to debate it?

There are plenty of other words that could make someone feel a hell out a lot worse. You got trashed. You got wrecked. You got annihilated. You got snuffed.

Whatever. Why ****? It is the most violent, and horrific act I can imagine honestly, and I've known girls go from bubbly little things, into morose, often sexually addicted, and self-loathing shells of a person.

Don't tell me it is okay to say it.
 

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Wow me and you agree on something lol.

And for the one hudnreth time, there are little kids on this site, whos parents won't want them exposed and desensitised to that sort of language.

It doesn't matter what you mean when you say it, it can still offend alot of people.

It's like how you don't swear infront of little children, you don't mean any harm, but it's just a bad word you don't say infront of them.

The fact that you can joke about something that has ruined so many people's lives suggests the desensitisation of our youth is well in progress.

I seriosuly don't get why people are still arguing this, they know it offends some people and it's a problem for little kids on these boards, and it's nto as if you have anything to lose by not saying it.

Are you people seriously that self-centred that you're willing to offend, and potentially revive traumatic memories, and expose kids to bad language, simply because you don't want to change?
 

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Are you people seriously that self-centred that you're willing to offend, and potentially revive traumatic memories, and expose kids to bad language, simply because you don't want to change?

its not a good idea to bury traumatic experiences. If you have been ***** you should strive to be able to hear the word **** in a joking context and not care.

hiding from the fact that you've been ***** is not going to help you in the long term


Seriously thats real talk.


Don't tell me it is okay to say it.

saying **** isn't the same as ****** someone


but trying to control what words people can and cannot use is.


stop trying to **** my ability to use the word **** in non-sexual situations
 

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We disagreed on one issue, and thus we cannot agree on any issue? I see where your logic is.

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I am not trying to control what you say...I am appealing to your logic. The human mind is brilliant--it is a metaconsciousness. It actually involves many things working together, independently but also co-dependently.

So every time you say ****, the ENTIRE brain works on that word--at incredible speed. Every single way that it can be interpreted is almost fully realized before the correct meaning and usage bubbles up from the possibilities.

This is why it's offensive. Stop using it. If our brains were different, then I'd agree. But, it clearly offends. It strikes us involuntarily--I have been abused myself, and I am not afraid to admit it. Stop using the **** word. I hate it.
 

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We disagreed on two, and now we disagree on a third because I disagree with you on where my logic is lol.

It's funny actually, most people here are saying 'you can't change me you can't tell me how to act' etc. and I was thinking what the hell only fifteen year olds think like that.

Then I remembered most people here are around that age.

Jugfingers if you think **** is to be joked about then I think you have alot of maturing to do.

No it's not about controlling people, it's about having consideration for others. I might as well become a contract killer and whenever people tell me not to I'll act is if I'm 15 again and 'you can't tell me what to do' lol.

By saying **** you're exposing kids to bad langauge that will desensitise them. This board has over 160 000 members, not including guests, can imagine how young kids have learned to use the word **** in general conversation as result of this board, and likely have gotten in trouble with their parents?

Again, you're saying you're willing to offend people, revive traumatic memories, expose and desensitise kids to bad language, by using the word ****, even though there's nothing signifcant to lose from not usng it, all because you simply don't wnat to change or be told what to do?

Can some please answer that for me.
 

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Dude, you're wasting your time. They know everything--and you can't change the way they think.
 

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Yeah it's a hopeless cause, I was more just defending the OP's argument against the people attempting to counter him. I always knew you're never going to be able to get through to (most)adolescents on the net.
 

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We disagreed on one issue, and thus we cannot agree on any issue? I see where your logic is.

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I am not trying to control what you say...I am appealing to your logic. The human mind is brilliant--it is a metaconsciousness. It actually involves many things working together, independently but also co-dependently.

So every time you say ****, the ENTIRE brain works on that word--at incredible speed. Every single way that it can be interpreted is almost fully realized before the correct meaning and usage bubbles up from the possibilities.

This is why it's offensive. Stop using it. If our brains were different, then I'd agree. But, it clearly offends. It strikes us involuntarily--I have been abused myself, and I am not afraid to admit it. Stop using the **** word. I hate it.
please refrain from using the word hate,

whenever I hear it I think of all the hateful things that have happened in the history of the world and it makes me both sad and angry and I start to hiccup uncontrollably, plus hate is a very negative offensive word


I mean it shouldn't be a problem really its just a four letter word that some people find to have negative connotation and I know your really concerned about offending people. so maybe just replace that word with a less strong word like "dislike"

k thanks.






Jugfingers if you think **** is to be joked about then I think you have alot of maturing to do.
Actually I think everything should be joked about, its a lot more fun than being super serious and offended all the time
 

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We disagreed on two, and now we disagree on a third because I disagree with you on where my logic is lol.

It's funny actually, most people here are saying 'you can't change me you can't tell me how to act' etc. and I was thinking what the hell only fifteen year olds think like that.

Then I remembered most people here are around that age.

Jugfingers if you think **** is to be joked about then I think you have alot of maturing to do.

No it's not about controlling people, it's about having consideration for others. I might as well become a contract killer and whenever people tell me not to I'll act is if I'm 15 again and 'you can't tell me what to do' lol.

By saying **** you're exposing kids to bad langauge that will desensitise them. This board has over 160 000 members, not including guests, can imagine how young kids have learned to use the word **** in general conversation as result of this board, and likely have gotten in trouble with their parents?

Again, you're saying you're willing to offend people, revive traumatic memories, expose and desensitise kids to bad language, by using the word ****, even though there's nothing signifcant to lose from not usng it, all because you simply don't wnat to change or be told what to do?

Can some please answer that for me.

I will, in fact answer.

To begin with, you never responded to my post. For people to make an experience in their life bigger than it acutally is, to the point that it consumes them, is pathetic. For people to define themselves by their experiences is pathetic. Have you ever heard the phrase "It's done, nothing you can do, just walk away"? That is the attitude that society needs. For people to feel as if they have the right to get offended because of an exprience, race, or even gender, is stupid. People who do that, are putting themselves out to be offended, as opposed to those who don't think they are entitled to being offended.


As for the kids....I don't believe in sheltering little kids. Honestly. I believe in growing and nuturing but to bring this whole fanciful world into their lives is just a bunch of crap. They need to see reality sooner or later anyways, so why not get them into it to begin with? I'm not even going to bother with the whole santa bullcrap with them, if anything be a taboo, it should be lying.

As for significance and all those claims of you being holier than thou,

Yes, it isn't significant, but it obviously is to someone who is trying to stop people from saying what is now a common word. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me"?



Summary of post: Grow a pair and do some growing up yourself.
 

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please refrain from using the word hate,

whenever I hear it I think of all the hateful things that have happened in the history of the world and it makes me both sad and angry and I start to hiccup uncontrollably, plus hate is a very negative offensive word


I mean it shouldn't be a problem really its just a four letter word that some people find to have negative connotation and I know your really concerned about offending people. so maybe just replace that word with a less strong word like "dislike"

k thanks.








Actually I think everything should be joked about, its a lot more fun than being super serious and offended all the time
Hate is an intangible emotion. **** is a violent action. They are not the same. Honestly, I kinda wish I could snuff out your existence. But, I am crueler than that. Maybe in some sort of cosmic irony you will get ***** brutally and left to die somewhere. But, I hope that doesn't happen--but perhaps you will gain perspective on your ignorance right now.

I wish we could all joke about stuff too--but we live in the real world. Not some absurdist fantasy.

I will, in fact answer.

To begin with, you never responded to my post. For people to make an experience in their life bigger than it acutally is, to the point that it consumes them, is pathetic. For people to define themselves by their experiences is pathetic. Have you ever heard the phrase "It's done, nothing you can do, just walk away"? That is the attitude that society needs. For people to feel as if they have the right to get offended because of an exprience, race, or even gender, is stupid. People who do that, are putting themselves out to be offended, as opposed to those who don't think they are entitled to being offended.


As for the kids....I don't believe in sheltering little kids. Honestly. I believe in growing and nuturing but to bring this whole fanciful world into their lives is just a bunch of crap. They need to see reality sooner or later anyways, so why not get them into it to begin with? I'm not even going to bother with the whole santa bullcrap with them, if anything be a taboo, it should be lying.

As for significance and all those claims of you being holier than thou,

Yes, it isn't significant, but it obviously is to someone who is trying to stop people from saying what is now a common word. Whatever happened to "Sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me"?



Summary of post: Grow a pair and do some growing up yourself.

Oh and you. Take your own advice, scumbag. Try telling that to a **** victim after she got *****, or a young boy whose colon is almost splayed in half after someone ***** them with a broom handle. Tell them to not let that experience consume them--tell them that moment of extreme vulnerability and loss of your own control is something that isn't a big deal. Tell them that. Tell them that their PTSD is not a big deal either. Go ahead.

I am sick of this topic. It is making me so ****ing mad.
 

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Hate is an intangible emotion. **** is a violent action. They are not the same. Honestly, I kinda wish I could snuff out your existence. But, I am crueler than that. Maybe in some sort of cosmic irony you will get ***** brutally and left to die somewhere. But, I hope that doesn't happen--but perhaps you will gain perspective on your ignorance right now.

I wish we could all joke about stuff too--but we live in the real world. Not some absurdist fantasy.

Can you please refrain from using the word snuff? My mother had a cocaine problem and thats what she refered her powder as.



LAWL. SEE! This is getting rediculous.
 

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Hate is an intangible emotion. **** is a violent action. They are not the same. Honestly, I kinda wish I could snuff out your existence. But, I am crueler than that. Maybe in some sort of cosmic irony you will get ***** brutally and left to die somewhere. But, I hope that doesn't happen--but perhaps you will gain perspective on your ignorance right now.

I wish we could all joke about stuff too--but we live in the real world. Not some absurdist fantasy.




Oh and you. Take your own advice, scumbag. Try telling that to a **** victim after she got *****, or a young boy whose colon is almost splayed in half after someone ***** them with a broom handle. Tell them to not let that experience consume them--tell them that moment of extreme vulnerability and loss of your own control is something that isn't a big deal. Tell them that. Tell them that their PTSD is not a big deal either. Go ahead.

I am sick of this topic. It is making me so ****ing mad.

I know plenty of women who have been ***** and to be honest, most of them were asking for it. They were asking for it by drinking/drugs, meeting men off the internet after having a "cybersexual" relationship, oh, and wearing miniskirts.


PTSD shouldn't even be considered a disorder. It should just be called "woe is me-ism"


Now grow a pair and grow up. The world isn't going to change for those who feel entitled to get offended.
 

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I know plenty of women who have been ***** and to be honest, most of them were asking for it. They were asking for it by drinking/drugs, meeting men off the internet after having a "cybersexual" relationship, oh, and wearing miniskirts.


PTSD shouldn't even be considered a disorder. It should just be called "woe is me-ism"


Now grow a pair and grow up. The world isn't going to change for those who feel entitled to get offended.
Hahahaha. You're a brilliant satirist.

Can you please refrain from using the word snuff? My mother had a cocaine problem and thats what she refered her powder as.



LAWL. SEE! This is getting rediculous.

Still you are failing to see the connection. Doing cocaine is a consensual crime in the sense that your mother would have to CHOOSE to do it. **** is when someone ELSE decides what they want to do with YOU.

Now if the cocaine were to jump into her nose and break her capillaries and thus enter her blood stream--then I would absolutely say that using the word snuff is probably wrong. But, the drug doesn't do that. It requires a conscious and willing [albeit addiction can play a huge role in it] mind to insufflate it.
 

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Hahahaha. You're a brilliant satirist.




Still you are failing to see the connection. Doing cocaine is a consensual crime in the sense that your mother would have to CHOOSE to do it. **** is when someone ELSE decides what they want to do with YOU.

Now if the cocaine were to jump into her nose and break her capillaries and thus enter her blood stream--then I would absolutely say that using the word snuff is probably wrong. But, the drug doesn't do that. It requires a conscious and willing [albeit addiction can play a huge role in it] mind to insufflate it.

Oh but it is the same thing! There is a connection! Most girls who get **** practically beg for it and then they feel as if THEY have the need to get offended over something? How about if they....DON'T get themselves in those sitations. (aka drugs, cybersex/webcam, and miniskirts)


Honestly, I think **** should he a compliment. *shrug*
 

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How about if men just simply don't **** them? That's a cool solution too. Ever think of that? Why aren't men the problem? Why are women the problem?

Man, you keep tricking me! I keep forgetting that is a fake position you're holding.
 

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How about if men just simply don't **** them? That's a cool solution too. Ever think of that? Why aren't men the problem? Why are women the problem?

Man, you keep tricking me! I keep forgetting that is a fake position you're holding.
If I don't get a decent amount of **** during each day I feel lightheaded and can't really concentrate.
 

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How about if men just simply don't **** them? That's a cool solution too. Ever think of that? Why aren't men the problem? Why are women the problem?

Man, you keep tricking me! I keep forgetting that is a fake position you're holding.

A man can throw a pitch, but the catcher can choose whether or not to catch it.



Fake position? Do explain.
 

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I know plenty of women who have been ***** and to be honest, most of them were asking for it. They were asking for it by drinking/drugs, meeting men off the internet after having a "cybersexual" relationship, oh, and wearing miniskirts.
Assume for a moment that we have a murder who kills for the joy of murder. Now assume that we have another person who is alive, and flaunting the fact that they are alive by being out and about in the world. They're asking to be murdered, correct?




PTSD shouldn't even be considered a disorder. It should just be called "woe is me-ism"
And where exactly is your degree in psychology? PTSD has recognized definable symptomyns and causes deviations from the normal human brain that are recognizable.


You fail biology forever, thanks and come again.



If you're a troll, you're completely ridiculous, if you're not, well there a good chance your IP address is already being monitored and your local mental health institution will be in contact with you shortly, but I'm sure somebody is gonna give them an alert, just in case.


You realize that it's virtually impossible to hide all the traces of your identity online, right?



Either way... nothing to see here people.
 

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Assume for a moment that we have a murder who kills for the joy of murder. Now assume that we have another person who is alive, and flaunting the fact that they are alive by being out and about in the world. They're asking to be murdered, correct?






And where exactly is your degree in psychology? PTSD has recognized definable symptomyns and causes deviations from the normal human brain that are recognizable.


You fail biology forever, thanks and come again.



If you're a troll, you're completely ridiculous, if you're not, well there a good chance your IP address is already being monitored and your local mental health institution will be in contact with you shortly, but I'm sure somebody is gonna give them an alert, just in case.


You realize that it's virtually impossible to hide all the traces of your identity online, right?



Either way... nothing to see here people.

That analogy makes no sense. If a girl who consents to become intoxicated consents to anything that happens while she's intoxicated. right? Thats only common sense. People should take responsibility in everything that they do. Right?

Oh and as for the whole PTSD, I may not know how it affects the brain, but I persnally think that if people didn't take things to such heart and all of that, there wouldn't be PTSD. It is basically a reaction to something traumatic that happens in someones life, With a cause, is a reaction, therefore, it is the inividual's fault for taking things so hard on himself. Mmkay? Common sense.
 

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That analogy makes no sense. If a girl who consents to become intoxicated consents to anything that happens while she's intoxicated. right? Thats only common sense. People should take responsibility in everything that they do. Right?

Oh and as for the whole PTSD, I may not know how it affects the brain, but I persnally think that if people didn't take things to such heart and all of that, there wouldn't be PTSD. It is basically a reaction to something traumatic that happens in someones life, With a cause, is a reaction, therefore, it is the inividual's fault for taking things so hard on himself. Mmkay? Common sense.
Common sense tells us that the earth is flat. Common sense tells us that everything is solid. Common sense tells us a lot of stupid things.

You are really a good satirist. Maybe even the next Stephen Colbert.

You are very good at taking a deplorable point of view that is utterly indefensible, vile, and horrible, and probably anyone who really holds it should be tarred, hung up, butchered, have their innards strung out and shoved back inside of them while on a live feed 90 inch plasma TV right in front of them.

But, you aren't a bad guy at all. Just a troll. *shrugs*
 

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Lol what? So if I leave my window open am I consenting to being burgled?

A girl who gets intoxicated is doing it so she can have fun, **** is a violation, which is never consented to, the whole essence of **** is that it is against consent.

Girls who wear deliberately provocative clothing generally do it to make men look at them in a 'provoked' way. They're not doing it so some scumbag spieks their drink and violates them.
 

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I'll just use 'You got murdered' from now on because the only people who could complain about being offended by it are 6 feet under and having a hard time voicing their opinions.
 

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Now that's logical! I think we can all enjoy a little murder. But honestly, a lot of words are offensive--but **** is just stupid. It makes you sound like a child. It really does. Women won't wanna mess with a guy who sounds like a baby.
 

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Lol what? So if I leave my window open am I consenting to being burgled?

A girl who gets intoxicated is doing it so she can have fun, **** is a violation, which is never consented to, the whole essence of **** is that it is against consent.

Girls who wear deliberately provocative clothing generally do it to make men look at them in a 'provoked' way. They're not doing it so some scumbag spieks their drink and violates them.
So you're telling me that someone who depends on a substance to have a good time isn't dumb enough already? Jeez, Darwin! You need to start doing your natural selection crap, these people can't even THINK of a good time without using substances that kill them!


Girls who have no respect for themselves shouldn't be treated with respect. Ever thought of that?
 

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I'll just use 'You got murdered' from now on because the only people who could complain about being offended by it are 6 feet under and having a hard time voicing their opinions.
Dude, I think that is the most pansy solution ever!! Congrats!! *highfives with a cosmipolitan in hand*
 

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So you're telling me that someone who depends on a substance to have a good time isn't dumb enough already? Jeez, Darwin! You need to start doing your natural selection crap, these people can't even THINK of a good time without using substances that kill them!


Girls who have no respect for themselves shouldn't be treated with respect. Ever thought of that?
Your logic is really bad. :| Drugs have been in human culture for over 5,000 years.

And, men should respect themselves and not engage in criminal behavior. Ever thought of that?
 

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That analogy makes no sense. If a girl who consents to become intoxicated consents to anything that happens while she's intoxicated. right?
I really suggest you familiarize yourself with law, because no. A person is responsible for their actions while intoxicated to certain degree and dependent on the action, but it in no way gives people allowance to take advantage of said state. It only prevents them from using it as a defense for hurting others, especially in the case of drunk driving.


Oh and as for the whole PTSD, I may not know how it affects the brain, but I persnally think that if people didn't take things to such heart and all of that, there wouldn't be PTSD. It is basically a reaction to something traumatic that happens in someones life, With a cause, is a reaction, therefore, it is the inividual's fault for taking things so hard on himself. Mmkay? Common sense.
And that opinion only displays your ignorance of the topic, it doesn't occur because people "take things to heart", PSTD is entirely a disorder of the unconscious mind, willpower doesn't make it not so.




You're amusing, I'll play along for the moment.
 

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Your logic is really bad. :| Drugs have been in human culture for over 5,000 years.

And, men should respect themselves and not engage in criminal behavior. Ever thought of that?
I never said the entire human race was intelligent. >_>

Men, indeed should respect themselves, but it isn't their fault indecent whores are flashing their upper things and cleavage everywhere.
 

Superspright

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I never said the entire human race was intelligent. >_>

Men, indeed should respect themselves, but it isn't their fault indecent whores are flashing their upper things and cleavage everywhere.
Yeah, it isn't. It's their fault they did something based on it though. Why are men so pathetic that they lack the will power to turn down a woman? I've done it countless times, and I've gotten countless *** too. I am not a mayfly that lives for one day and must reproduce at any opportunity or have sex at any opportunity--I am a person. I don't need to **** everything that walks. I have a relatively long life span, so I don't need to have sex every chance I get. The mark of a real man is one who is in control of himself--a true master. Not some slave to his *****.

And, I smoke weed. Why the hell do you seem so dumb?
 

Thatfatcat

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Yeah, it isn't. It's their fault they did something based on it though. Why are men so pathetic that they lack the will power to turn down a woman? I've done it countless times, and I've gotten countless *** too. I am not a mayfly that lives for one day and must reproduce at any opportunity or have sex at any opportunity--I am a person. I don't need to **** everything that walks. I have a relatively long life span, so I don't need to have sex every chance I get. The mark of a real man is one who is in control of himself--a true master. Not some slave to his *****.

And, I smoke weed. Why the hell do you seem so dumb?
=).

Check out my new thread.
 

Brick_Top

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Dude, it seems to me like you're changing you beliefs because you want people to like you or something. That's some aspergers **** right there. Pick a side and stick with it, because otherwise, it makes you look weak.
 

Thatfatcat

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Dude, it seems to me like you're changing you beliefs because you want people to like you or something. That's some aspergers **** right there. Pick a side and stick with it, because otherwise, it makes you look weak.

....You missed the entire.freaking.purpose.of my thread. Did you even read it?
 
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