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Akko is my dear daughter!
I think Chrom will more better received than Palutena moveset wise.
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On top of this, it isn't fair to compare Smash 4 to Project M as they are different games with different goals in mind. It's like comparing Poker to Go Fish. I also hate it when people say that they won't buy Smash 4 because of Project M, when that is (from what I can tell) the exact opposite of the team's intentions. The Project M team doesn't want to try and compete with Smash 4, and likely want it to succeed.What many people don't realize is that Smash 4 has to be built on a timetable. Thinking it's fair to compare it to the likes of Project M, a game with no time pressure and designed by people who obsessively (in a good way) played the game to Smash 4 is laughable. I certainly hope the balance is good for fighters, but I also hope Sakurai takes the opposite tack Project M did with stages, and make them dynamic rather than boring, safe stages (because FD versions do that just fine, though Battlefield versions would be great too).
-Given that Kirby is still a relevant series, with very few bad games, and a constant presence, I feel that the franchise is more deserving of a high character count than Metroid, Star Fox, or Donkey Kong, although I do still want Ridley and K Rool.
/quote] When smash 4 started development other m was less then 2 years old so at the time the roster was created it was as relevant as it ever was and dk had tropical freeze and returns though star fox that just entered development now
Yeah pretty much the newest franchise to come out of the Wii generation was Wii Fit (I suppose Xenoblade and Rhythm Heaven count too but I'm just referring to those confirmed at the moment.). Every one else was either revived or just a new character in an existing franchise.After seeing E3 this year, I REALLY wish Smash's roster had been decided NOW rather than a year ago.
I'd of taken Captain Toad(obviously), Inklings and one of the Hyrule Warrior playable characters over about 50% of the newcomer roster thus far.
If anything it's just made me realise that the Wii Generation wasn't great for new characters(...although Pit and Little Mac did get a revival which is good.)
Me?Do you think Krystal has a chance of appearing alongside the starfox representatives or cutting either wolf or Falco?
This isn't really the thread to ask this sort of question. Feel free to ask it at the character discussion thread though.Do you think Krystal has a chance of appearing alongside the starfox representatives or cutting either wolf or Falco?
And that's exactly why I've been replaying Brawl without touching Subspace, just to get everyone normally.Getting characters from sub space did not have any where near the thrill of defeating a challenge whether it be classic mode with a certain character or some other obstacle..and then having that challenger approaching logo appear and then be thrown into a fight.
tbh a lot of classic megaman weapons are pretty similar i could see this working..Junk shield for leaf shield alt, shadow blades for metal blade alt etc. I could see it happening.And that's exactly why I've been replaying Brawl without touching Subspace, just to get everyone normally.
Not sure if this is unpopular or even something people talk about at all, but...
I really hope that Megaman's custom moves aren't just (for example) 'Leaf Shield + X property.' I'd be okay if it were still a shield, since Palu/Mii Fighters have the 12 moves gimmick, but at least let me swap it out, visually, for... uh... whatever other shields the classic series has.
Saying Lana is "deserving" may be going too far. Especially since she seems like not only a Zelda one-off (which seems to have a lot of them. Skull Kid, Ghirahim, Vaati, Zant) but she's also from a freaking Dynasty Warriors mod. Still, I support her only on the notion that she's extremely unlikely, but still support just for fun. Similar to how I support Groose or Hades.I've seen a few people want Lana from Hyrule Warriors. Now; nothing wrong with that in of itself. I'm interested in Inkling for next Smash, although they're very, very new...
What has me flummoxed though is people stating she's 'deserving' of a spot on the roster, which is frankly nuts. How has this potentially one off, spinoff character more 'deserving' than any of the other characters playable in that game who have also appeared in the Zelda main games?
Like I said previously; nothing wrong with supporting who you like, but deserving should be given to those individuals who have had a large impact in gaming or Nintendo. At least in my opinion.Saying Lana is "deserving" may be going too far. Especially since she seems like not only a Zelda one-off (which seems to have a lot of them. Skull Kid, Ghirahim, Vaati, Zant) but she's also from a freaking Dynasty Warriors mod. Still, I support her only on the notion that she's extremely unlikely, but still support just for fun. Similar to how I support Groose or Hades.
And lets be honest, there's support thread here for just about anyone (like freaking Agitha and Duck Hunt Dog.) I doubt they're all 100% serious like Ridley or K.Rool but it's still fun and that's my favorite part of Smash hype whenever a new game is announced.
Well said. We've probably gone on this topic for too long and I don't want this to come off like an argument or debate and close the thread again.Like I said previously; nothing wrong with supporting who you like, but deserving should be given to those individuals who have had a large impact in gaming or Nintendo. At least in my opinion.
For the record though, I totally support Duck Hunt Dog seriously. As a retro he's by far one of the most well known(arguably Balloon Fighter might trump him). SSB: Crusade is probably to blame though for my support.
I guess supporting him could be considered an unpopular opinion though.
Unpopular opinion related to this post(to not break rules completely);
Okay, that sounded a bit cheesy and preachy, but I do genuinely feel that way regarding Smash speculators.
- Personally I'd much rather hit people with ducks as a weapon in Super Smash Bros. than a samurai sword any day of the week. And then laugh about it.
- Guys like Diddy who support Impa passionately, Scatman with his Vaati support, Chandelure with Bandana Dee or Blue who supported Anna with such conviction I completely respect. Such passion for a character gets me interested in them.
- Similarly had I seen someone actually support Wii Fit Trainer with such a passion pre-reveal I'd probably be far more welcoming of her/him than I ended up being.
- I may not always agree with a fandom, but I can respect genuine love of a character far more than those who just support a character because they deem them 'inevitable'.
It probably sounds stupid, but surely that's what first drew us all to Smash in the first place; to play as our favourite characters.
I'm pretty sure PGP is one of the troll characters.I saw that there are 1,525 threads in the Character Discussion section, and while not every single one may be a support thread, that's still a huge amount. And on the first page I saw characters like Pink Gold Peach and Hatsune Miku mixed in with the usual suspects of Ridley and K.Rool. And then you have the infamous troll characters like Shrek, Goku, and Cory Baxter.
I agree with this 100%. Considering that it hasn't even been released yet, there is no real point in to propose having them unless you actually have finally played the game and made a personal judgement of "Yeah, cool game and cool character" AFTERWARDS. Otherwise it just feels like prioritizing new IPs that haven't made any sort of impact at all for the sake of having new IPs, which really doesn't make any sense.In a similar vein to what @ YoshiandToad said, it's sad and a bit pathetic that people never seem to look at new characters and grow to appreciate them for who they are, and instead instantly obsess over "LET'S REP THEM IN SMASH BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW."
Sure, if you play, say, Splatoon and think the Splatoon Squid would be a cool character, by all means, talk her up, but as it stands, people don't even give two damns about that game, they just view it as "NEW IP TO BE REPPED IN SMASH," which really cheapens it in my opinion.
It's all Roy's fault. We should cut him before he does any more damage-oh wait.I agree with this 100%. Considering that it hasn't even been released yet, there is no real point in to propose having them unless you actually have finally played the game and made a personal judgement of "Yeah, cool game and cool character" AFTERWARDS. Otherwise it just feels like prioritizing new IPs that haven't made any sort of impact at all for the sake of having new IPs, which really doesn't make any sense.
I feel ya so goddamn well I'm gonna quote this post of mine I wrote just yesterday on a FB group to show it:In my opinion Super Smash Bros. Brawl had the perfect roster of Nintendo characters at the time. I'm referring to the characters themselves, not the way they played. Before Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and even before Melee for the most part, my wishlist of character included:
1.King Dedede
2.Wario
3.Meta Knight
4.Diddy Kong
5.ROB
6.Charizard
When each and every one of them were announced in Brawl I was really excited and hyped. My number one complaint about Smash 4 is that the character roster doesn't have this level of excitement attached to it, for me at least. My top 6 characters, with the exception of ROB, are all major characters from Nintendo franchises that have been represented in dozens of games for at least a decade, if not longer, at the time of Brawl's release. The history behind them makes the characters seem vibrant and exciting.
The roster of Nintendo characters (excluding 3rd party) in smash 4 has felt underwhelming fin this regard. With the notable exception of Villager, and Little Mac both of which have a rich history with Nintendo and are very iconic in my opinion. I'm finding it difficult to get super excited for characters like WFT, Greninja, Rosalina, Palutena (and Shulk, Rhythm Heaven rep, and Chrom if geramtsu is true). none of these characters are bad, and I always love having unexpected representatives show up in smash but it feels like an increasingly large number of newcomers are secondary characters that appeared in a small handful of games (Palutena, Rosalina, Greninja, Rhythm heaven Rep.) Or characters that were the stars of games less then 3 years old (Chrom, Shulk). I feel like having a few secondary and recent characters in smash is always a great idea (I love Marth, Ike, Jigglypuff, Cpt. Falcon, etc.) but in the other smash games the newcomers usually featured one or two characters like this. I'm worried the newcomer list will be severely lacking in recognizable and beloved Nintendo characters. However, my complaints here are completely null and void if we get the likes of Mewtwo, K. Rool, Toad, etc. in the game. All this being said, I'm still excited for the game, and I think the newcomers will be really cool, I just wish I could get as excited about them as I did back in Brawl.
Indifferent to Megaman's inclusion... More hyped about WFT's reveal due to the unpredictability factor + the lols... Love Charizard...I was the one of the very, very few people who was completely indifferent to Mega Man being in Smash Bros. I never grew up with Mega Man, instead, I only read heard about it from my friends and watched my brother get into it at some point. But when I first tried it out (the Classic games), I couldn't get into it. There was also the fact that EVERYBODY wanted him in, from the average consumer to freakin' Capcom itself. I got annoyed that so many people claimed that Capcom hated him and didn't want anything to do with him ever again, because that was clearly not the case when it came to Smash, because he was always on their top minds for Smash representation ever since 2008.
So when he was revealed at E3 2013, I was like:
".....Eh...."
I was much more interested in the Wii Fit Trainer's reveal, because it came completely out of nowhere and made me laugh hard.
Indifferent to Megaman's inclusion... More hyped about WFT's reveal due to the unpredictability factor + the lols... Love Charizard...
You might be my long lost twin.
Since customization was confirmed I wanted Skull Barrier customization for Leaf Shield.And that's exactly why I've been replaying Brawl without touching Subspace, just to get everyone normally.
Not sure if this is unpopular or even something people talk about at all, but...
I really hope that Megaman's custom moves aren't just (for example) 'Leaf Shield + X property.' I'd be okay if it were still a shield, since Palu/Mii Fighters have the 12 moves gimmick, but at least let me swap it out, visually, for... uh... whatever other shields the classic series has.