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What are you most excited about for E3?


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Rie Sonomura

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I still kinda think that DLC spirits only apply to new series, so if we get like Bandana Dee (who has a Spirit) we won't get Spirits with him, just a stage and music

there ARE a few Kirby tunes they could still throw in there, fyi
 

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Man, with the addition of DLC spirits I feel this convinces me further that Spirits have to be deconfirmations, unfortunately, so while I'll still be repping her I may have to pour one out for Elma...but this does make me REALLY excited to see who the rest of the past could be. No matter what, we are getting new and exciting possibilities complete with love and attention poured into them. Joker really set an amazing tone for the pass. No regrets getting the pass at all, not that I had them before but there was always that small nervous sensation...

Also, looking at the other fighter pass-esque things I buy (WWE games, Soulcalibur 6, Tekken) I gotta say this is among the best deals. WWE games as of late is the only one comparable in value since I buy those games for character creation and those packages always come with tons of new parts and moves to use.
Weren't there Rare spirits found in the code, or was that just a rumor?
 

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Shantae would probably have her ponytail rigged though to provide for hitboxes.

Whoever "jane" would be would have to have a regular ponytail.
Regular ponytail, huh?

 

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It was a 2016 wii u hack and slash published by Nintendo that was critically panned. It was produced by Tomonobu Itagaki who used to work at Team Ninja and made games like DOA and Ninja Gaiden, but I can't find anything on him being blacklisted.
So him being "blacklisted" is just some internet shenanigans as normal
 
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Weren't there Rare spirits found in the code, or was that just a rumor?
technically yes, but they were cut. This should explain more on it:
Nintendo owned the trademark for Star Twins, and they still do. That means they have the legal right to use the name in marketing. That's a huge difference, and not the same as owning the copyright, which is ostensibly the property in and of itself. That, like every other Rare created property, was kept by them in the transition to Microsoft.
Star Twins was a name that Nintendo had mandated when they published the game in Japan, so the trademark being theirs makes sense. Presumably the reason it was never applied by Microsoft was they either never intended to keep using that name, or it's just because it's a super low priority franchise. One thing to remember is that Rare was never an entirely owned subsidiary. Nintendo really only owned 49% of the company, so to a majority extent, most of the original creations Rare put out were in large part owned by themselves.
They wouldn't have retained trademarks for anything except Star Twins and Blast Dozer given that those were the titles that underwent name changes for Japanese publishing. Most likely Nintendo had trademarks for just about every other Rare franchise at some point (with the possible exception of Conker), but those were obviously given up because they were easy to track and not as esoteric or disposable.
That being said, I don't have any active links to those names on trademark databases. It's possible those trademarks have expired by now, but given their presence in the game's files, it's safe to assume they log their trademarks closely, and those two games appearing in Smash's files makes the most sense if any at all are present.
 
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Mark (the black kid) is like the cherry on top of Persona 1's frankly bizarre localization. A lot of the mythology surrounding the Personas were removed completely for creatives names like "IxI," "Fury," and "Alfred."

Most other characters became less Japanese over the localization to make them, well, look less Japanese for western audiences.

There is literally a boss named Super Guido, which is the most hilarious name I have ever heard in my life.

I could keep going, but the point is that when talking about Persona 1's localization, Mark was just made black for diversity and the monkey nickname was a carryover for his original Japanese skin. Honestly, it's kind of a big deal if you like diversity because Mark is usually the kid who goads you into the actual moral choices versus the rich white kid, Nate.
 
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Guns are A-ok now, this is you chance!

SHILL THE JILL DAMN IT, SHILL THE JILL
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN I'VE BEEN SHILLING SINCE YESTERDAY.

I'VE SHARED THAT IMAGE THREE TIMES SINCE MAKING IT.
 

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Mark (the black kid) is like the cherry on top of Persona 1's frankly bizarre localization. A lot of the mythology surrounding the Personas were removed completely for creatives names like "IxI," "Fury," and "Alfred."

Most other characters became less Japanese over the localization to make them, well, look less Japanese for western audiences.

There is literally a boss named Super Guido, which is the most hilarious name I have ever heard in my life.

I could keep going, but the point is that when talking about Persona 1's localization, Mark was just made black for diversity and the monkey nickname was a carryover for his original Japanese skin. Honestly, it's kind of a big deal if you like diversity because Mark is usually the kid who goads you into the actual moral choices versus the rich white kid, Nate.
Is it bad Im laughing extremly hard at Super Guido?
 

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Jill Valentine coming with a Phoenix Wright Mii costume would....actually be okay. A decent consolation prize.
 

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TBH I would be slightly disappointed if they went with RE 5 Jill
IMO if the ponytail thing is real (I don't think it is but I'm rolling with it) the Jill design they'd go with is her Revelations design.



It's her most recent and it was a 3DS exclusive. Changing the suit textures to purple and the hair textures to blonde would be an easy alternate color for Battlesuit Jill, too.

If Sakurai stuck to his usual mantra of sticking to a character's roots, Jill's original STARS look is more likely. And that'd be my preference anyway.
 

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Alright, it isn't pizza time for me but...

You know it's pizza time for Smash when you see this.
 

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So most people here in agreement that the next DLC choice will probably be announced at E3? What do you guys think the release schedule will be? 1 every 3 months? We still have 4 left, with only 9 full months left...
 

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IMO if the ponytail thing is real (I don't think it is but I'm rolling with it) the Jill design they'd go with is her Revelations design.



It's her most recent and it was a 3DS exclusive. Changing the suit textures to purple and the hair textures to blonde would be an easy alternate color for Battlesuit Jill, too.

If Sakurai stuck to his usual mantra of sticking to a character's roots, Jill's original STARS look is more likely. And that'd be my preference anyway.

One would think he'd use the STARS costume yeah, but I could see this being an alt (or the other way around)
 

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I thought your first words were "Jill Valentine."
Pretty sure you've been shilling Jill since day one.
Pft, my day one was in 2008.

I actually didn't shill any third parties until Ultimate. I've always been a Nintendo purist. But after ****ing Cloud, **** it. I'mma root for my favorite franchise.
 
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IMO if the ponytail thing is real (I don't think it is but I'm rolling with it) the Jill design they'd go with is her Revelations design.



It's her most recent and it was a 3DS exclusive. Changing the suit textures to purple and the hair textures to blonde would be an easy alternate color for Battlesuit Jill, too.

If Sakurai stuck to his usual mantra of sticking to a character's roots, Jill's original STARS look is more likely. And that'd be my preference anyway.
Wasn't Jane registered as an alt? Maybe if it is Jill, her battlesuit is an alt while her STARS outfit is the main costume?
 
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All the P4 music is great. That soundtrack holds a special place in my heart.

speaking of which we should've totally gotten mist in this game, all the other persona games got their final boss themes
Mist or The Almighty. Both are incredible tracks.

 

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Guys stop saying the h word,
All the P4 music is great. That soundtrack holds a special place in my heart.

speaking of which we should've totally gotten mist in this game, all the other persona games got their final boss themes
Doubts in Burn My Bread.
 
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