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[Idon]

Dammit Matpat, why do you always bring us back to either the pope or sans.

 

[KMDP]

I mean, that's exactly what it is. My super religious colleague does this **** too alongside about divorce is terrible and bringing up Mission Impossible 2 as an allegory for Christ or some ****

I mean, a lot of Hollywood films have Christ allegories built into them because Directors are a surprisingly uncreative lot.

A strange amount of American films and TV shows have main characters with the initials "J.C." because...

 

[Idon]

I mean, a lot of Hollywood films have Christ allegories built into them because Directors are a surprisingly uncreative lot.

A strange amount of American films and TV shows have main characters with the initials "J.C." because...

It's not just film either, all pieces of media love their christ allegories.

In fact, I'd say there's two things that you're gonna see references of forever. 1. The Bible. 2. Shakespeare.

 

[Shroob]

I mean, a lot of Hollywood films have Christ allegories built into them because Directors are a surprisingly uncreative lot.

A strange amount of American films and TV shows have main characters with the initials "J.C." because...

Just reminds me that Superman "Rose again" in.....Justice League.


Man of Steel was already eh.

You have the 'he has risen' sthick in ****ing JUSTICE LEAGUE.

 

[Diem]

I mean, a lot of Hollywood films have Christ allegories built into them because Directors are a surprisingly uncreative lot.

A strange amount of American films and TV shows have main characters with the initials "J.C." because...

I love that part of the review, it's like the one part I remember years later.

Yeah, that theme of the movie was pretty unsubtle. I actually like Man of Steel, but some parts of it definitely weren't crafted as well as they could've been. More than I can say for Batman v. Superman and Justice League, at least.

Just reminds me that Superman "Rose again" in.....Justice League.


Man of Steel was already eh.

You have the 'he has risen' sthick in ****ing JUSTICE LEAGUE.

The Death and Return of Superman is an old comic story that actually had a lot of weight to it and wasn't as much of a Jesus metaphor. It was even reported in the news when it happened: Superman dies.

But Warner Brothers, for some reason, decided to cram those two storylines into movies that already had major storylines, making everything a complete mess.

 

[Shroob]

I love that part of the review, it's like the one part I remember years later.

Yeah, that theme of the movie was pretty unsubtle. I actually like Man of Steel, but some parts of it definitely weren't crafted as well as they could've been. More than I can say for Batman v. Superman and Justice League, at least.


The Death and Return of Superman is an old comic story that actually had a lot of weight to it and wasn't as much of a Jesus metaphor. It was even reported in the news when it happened: Superman dies.

But Warner Brothers, for some reason, decided to cram those two storylines into movies that already had major storylines, making everything a complete mess.

I honestly wanted to like Justice League since I adored Wonder Woman and like The Flash.


It's nice to want things.

 

[Idon]

Just reminds me that Superman "Rose again" in.....Justice League.


Man of Steel was already eh.

You have the 'he has risen' sthick in ****ing JUSTICE LEAGUE.

USA: "By comparing a character with Jesus, we immediately draw a strong connection with the audience about what the character's motivations are."
Japan:

"HEY KID, WANT SOME STAND POWERS?"

 

[KMDP]

Just reminds me that Superman "Rose again" in.....Justice League.


Man of Steel was already eh.

You have the 'he has risen' sthick in ****ing JUSTICE LEAGUE.

I mean, characters coming back from the dead is just part of Comic Books in general.

"The Death of Superman" storyline (something Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice was pulling from by including Doomsday) ended with Superman coming back to life....

I love that part of the review, it's like the one part I remember years later.

Yeah, that theme of the movie was pretty unsubtle. I actually like Man of Steel, but some parts of it definitely weren't crafted as well as they could've been. More than I can say for Batman v. Superman and Justice League, at least.


The Death and Return of Superman is an old comic story that actually had a lot of weight to it and wasn't as much of a Jesus metaphor. It was even reported in the news when it happened: Superman dies.

But Warner Brothers, for some reason, decided to cram those two storylines into movies that already had major storylines, making everything a complete mess.

Dang it, Diem. You 'd me!

To be honest, a live action remake of the S:TAS Episode trilogy World's Finest would have been far better than Dawn of Justice.

 

[Deleted member]

I honestly wanted to like Justice League since I adored Wonder Woman and like The Flash.


It's nice to want things.

I'll never forgive Wonder Woman for giving me hope that the DCEU could maybe put out good movies.

 

[Idon]

Honestly, biggest gripe with DC movies is how the palette makes everyone look like they're in a hospital. Seriously, even Shazam, the funny one, looks weird and cold.

 

[osby]

USA: "By comparing a character with Jesus, we immediately draw a strong connection with the audience about what the character's motivations are."
Japan:
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"HEY KID, WANT SOME STAND POWERS?"

Good old "everyone in the audience must be Christian" fallacy.

 

[Idon]

Good old "everyone in the audience must be Christian" fallacy.

Hey man, your other option is like, quoting the Divine Comedy or William Blake. Or both.

 

[KMDP]

If you want a nice, comprehensive list of characters called "JC", TV Tropes has got your back on their "Significant Monogram" page.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I lost all faith I had in the DCEU upon the trainwreck that was Justice League. Somewhat or somehow Wonder Woman managed to just be an outlier.

 

[Shroob]

If you want a nice, comprehensive list of characters called "JC", TV Tropes has got your back on their "Significant Monogram" page.

>TVTropes

You trying to kill me? I'll get lost going in alone.

 

[Idon]

I'd like to remind everyone that Noctis is literally called THE KING OF KINGS.

And let's not even get into Persona 3.

HOW SUBTLE.

 

[Shroob]

I'd like to remind everyone that Noctis is literally called THE KING OF KINGS.

And let's not even get into Persona 3.
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HOW SUBTLE.

Don't forget the other one in the SMT series, Agony.

 

[KMDP]

I'd like to remind everyone that Noctis is literally called THE KING OF KINGS.

And let's not even get into Persona 3.
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HOW SUBTLE.

SMT/Persona has the excuse that that is literally Jesus and that's possible because of how Demons/Shadows work.

 

[Mythra]

Honestly, biggest gripe with DC movies is how the palette makes everyone look like they're in a hospital. Seriously, even Shazam, the funny one, looks weird and cold.

They gotta get the CSI: Miami filter guy to make their **** look warm at this point.

 

[Opossum]

Here's hoping that James Gunn's take on Suicide Squad 2 is more like Wonder Woman and Aquaman and less like...pretty much the rest of the DCEU.

 

[Shroob]

Here's hoping that James Gunn's take on Suicide Squad 2 is more like Wonder Woman and Aquaman and less like...pretty much the rest of the DCEU.

Ay dios mios it got a sequel? H-o-w.

 

[KMDP]

Honestly, biggest gripe with DC movies is how the palette makes everyone look like they're in a hospital. Seriously, even Shazam, the funny one, looks weird and cold.

They gotta get the CSI: Miami filter guy to make their **** look warm at this point.

The movies are full of Blues and Greens because they're trying to keep Henry Cavill's awesome Kryptonian powers in check by constantly bathing everyone in Kryptonite.

 

[Opossum]

Ay dios mios it got a sequel? H-o-w.

For as rough as it was, it made bank at the box office. That's really all it needed to do.

 

[osby]

I'd like to remind everyone that Noctis is literally called THE KING OF KINGS.

And let's not even get into Persona 3.
View attachment 199567
HOW SUBTLE.

I've always found it interesting that they kept it generic, like it can be any messiah and not just the Christian one (despite it having a cross on his back).

 

[Dr. James Rustles]

Here's hoping that James Gunn's take on Suicide Squad 2 is more like Wonder Woman and Aquaman and less like...pretty much the rest of the DCEU.

I keep reading that acronym as DEUCE... which still works.

 

[KMDP]

I keep reading that acronym as DEUCE... which still works.

What the DCEU?

 

[Mythra]

Im not ready to see that ****ty Harley Queen everywhere again.

 

[N3ON]

Im not ready to see that ****ty Harley Queen everywhere again.

We can't always get what we want

But if we try sometimes

We get what we need

 

[Idon]

Im not ready to see that ****ty Harley Queen everywhere again.

Dude, we're gonna get so many ****ing cosplayers.

 

[Opossum]

What the DCEU?

DC Extended Universe.

Presumably because they didn't want to copy Marvel with putting "Cinematic" in the title...despite desperately trying to rush toward a team-up movie.

 

[KMDP]

Im not ready to see that ****ty Harley Queen everywhere again.

I'm not sure if that's the "Sh" word or the "Sl" word, but to be honest both work.

 

[Shroob]

DC Extended Universe.

Presumably because they didn't want to copy Marvel with putting "Cinematic" in the title...despite desperately trying to rush toward a team-up movie.

*woosh*

I think.

 

[KMDP]

DC Extended Universe.

Presumably because they didn't want to copy Marvel with putting "Cinematic" in the title...despite desperately trying to rush toward a team-up movie.

I was making a "What the Deuce"? joke. I know what the DCEU is.

But thanks for the explanation anyway.

*woosh*

I think.

It was, in fact, a Whoosh.

 

[Mythra]

My dudes, DECU clearly stands for:
Distant Counter Extremely Useful


Oho!

 

[N3ON]

The cast of SS wasn't the problem. Not even the Joker. He wasn't in it enough to be a problem.

It was the pacing, the writing, the plot, and from time to time, the visuals.

Case in point, I bet the James Gunn version will be good, even if the cast remains largely the same.

 

[KMDP]

The cast of SS wasn't the problem. Not even the Joker. He wasn't in it enough to be a problem.

It was the pacing, the writing, the plot, and from time to time, the visuals.

Case in point, I bet the James Gunn version will be good, even if the cast remains largely the same.

Actors get a lot of **** for stuff that, a lot of the time, is out of their hands.

 

[Opossum]

The cast of SS wasn't the problem. Not even the Joker. He wasn't in it enough to be a problem.

It was the pacing, the writing, the plot, and from time to time, the visuals.

Case in point, I bet the James Gunn version will be good, even if the cast remains largely the same.

One thing I'm kinda worried about is that rumor has it Kinnaman isn't coming back as Rick Flagg. He was honestly one of the better parts of the movie, imo, so it kinda sucks if he doesn't come back.

On the other hand there's talk of Idris Elba replacing Will Smith as Deadshot and that's honestly kinda neat.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Ay dios mios it got a sequel? H-o-w.

If it makes you feel better it's already confirmed it's ignoring the first movie and the only things they're keeping are Margot as Harley and Deadshot. Everything else including Deadshot's actor is going to be different

 

[Idon]

If it makes you feel better it's already confirmed it's ignoring the first movie and the only things they're keeping are Margot as Harley and Deadshot. Everything else including Deadshot's actor is going to be different

So isn't that more of a reboot than a sequel?

 

[Opossum]

If it makes you feel better it's already confirmed it's ignoring the first movie and the only things they're keeping are Margot as Harley and Deadshot. Everything else including Deadshot's actor is going to be different

Weren't there murmurs of Viola Davis coming back to play Waller again or was that misinformation?