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U.N Owen Was Jigglypuff - June 27th at Succasunna, NJ LIVESTREAM!!!

Kaiber Kop

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I think Luigi is too low, but that's not the issue. Tiers are made for a reason. Don't call it a low tier, call it "bad characters and whatever i want in it because I don't know about tier lists or why their made tournament"
I've stated several times that I think allowing the bottom half of the overall tier list would be a good idea and naming it as such instead of the vague term of "low tier" when it doesn't specify just how low down it would go.

Oh well, it's all up to puff anyway.
 

Jigglymaster

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According to DM i'm breaking the community rules so i dunno what I want to do. I definatly don't want to put all of C tier in.

Wait, what about at Airmain where Ike and Bowser were allowed, what do you have to say about that?
 

Kaiber Kop

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According to DM i'm breaking the community rules so i dunno what I want to do. I definatly don't want to put all of C tier in.

Wait, what about at Airmain where Ike and Bowser were allowed, what do you have to say about that?
Did you read what I said at all about the "communities rules" or anything else??

Also, it's your decsion, if you dont want any of C tier dont put them in, if you want some put some in, if you want all put all in.
 

Allied

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i really wish i can come to this or gaunlet but i'm graduating this day =)

yay!
 

dmbrandon

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According to DM i'm breaking the community rules so i dunno what I want to do. I definatly don't want to put all of C tier in.

Wait, what about at Airmain where Ike and Bowser were allowed, what do you have to say about that?
I didn't run airman. Ike is hot garbage. Sonic is clearly a superior character. If you allow him and no one else, you're basically just catering to friends. That's lame.

Did you read what I said at all about the "communities rules" or anything else??

Also, it's your decsion, if you dont want any of C tier dont put them in, if you want some put some in, if you want all put all in.
Kai loves manipulating people.
 

CT Chia

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This is why I always strictly used the SBR Tier List for low tiers even when it sucked - to avoid arguments like this. However dm's right, the tier list is even better. Just go with it how it is.
 

Kaiber Kop

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Puff and I aren't friends XD. I barely know him.

Manipulating him by saying it's his opinion? :laugh: You don't even know me dm, don't try to turn a discussion into something personal

I present my view and let others judge. Like I said earlier, the whole C tier being allowed would be fine with me anyway but comparing Luigi and sonic isn't accurate
 

dmbrandon

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Why? Has Sonic taken games off of M2k?

HAS LUIGI?

Has Luigi beaten Overswarm? SONIC??!?!?!

blah blah fact fact. and I can tell when people are being manipulative. I do it all the time, thx.
 

Kaiber Kop

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Yup, the best sonic took 1 game off the best mk in a game that isn't too much in mk's favor.

Is it hard to believe that Shugo and Malcolm simply played better than M2k and OS in the games they took off them?

You said "Kai loves manipulating people". Thats wrong. You may do it all the time but I don't so I don't see why you'd say it. Like I said, we were having a discussion about characters in an event, don't make it personal.
 

dmbrandon

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If you think it's personal, you have it all wrong. However, what you're doing is a manipulative tactic. I've studied manipulation and its degrees for YEARS and whether or not you know it, it's happening. Just take my word on it.


Has the best Luigi ever taken a game on m2k? Malcolm's Sonic the first I played it beat me in game one cause I didn't know about tricks. Boss was the same way. But I'd easily take a MM on either person right now. I'm not guaranteeing a win, but I can say I'm fairly confident. Malcolm's Wario, on the other hand. >_>

Is it hard to believe that Sonic players play badly, which might give you the understanding that he's above his actual placing. That street runs 2 ways, sweetie. The fact is, Sonic has the tools to compete if used properly. I saw you almost beat shadow not two weeks ago, and NO jiggly puff or ganon is EVER going to be able to do that.
 

Ninja Edd

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If you add Sonic you need to add:

Peach, Fox, Luigi, Wolf, Shiek

Well actually dont do that cause then Diem and Ether aka Axel Foley will be able to play there secondaries and win low tier teams.

On the other hand i then can be with Zucco's Ness, serouisly its like better then his Lucario.
 

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Pokemon Trainer is better than Sonic. Sonic is slightly overrated on the tier list, while Pokemon Trainer is massively underrated.

I still think you should allow Sonic since he sucks.
 

Jigglymaster

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Ugh lol, whenever I make a descision some1 else disagrees.

I was thinking about taking squirtle out of PT in low tiers because PT is pretty good with squirtle.

Charizard and Ivysaur together are low tier.
 

Jigglymaster

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Is this going to be big?

I might come.
It SHOULD be. The place is 4000 sqr ft so it can fit many people in it.

Just reminding you guys again to bring setups. Tvs, wiis, or both. If you do you don't have to pay the venue fee (that is if you bring both) You still get partial off if you bring a wii or tv alone.
 

Kaiber Kop

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Puff, just make a final decision about C tier chars, and Squirtle/PT in your next post and do not change it. You can't please everyone, but you can make a final judgement in order to avoid more discussions about something thats up to you anyway.
 

Ninja Edd

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If Sonics is allowed you need the other C tier characters in

And why not allow Squirtle he is apart of PT, do you see Squirtle on the tier list or do you see PT?
 

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why wont u allow mk in it. after any B move he goes into fall special and cant do ****

whata dumb char.


anyone wanna partner with a pro mk O_O
 

Kaiber Kop

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No sonic again??? Ugh...back to camp fest low tiers....yaaaaaaaaaaaay -.-
Sonic's movement on the tier list means hes gonna win more matches, increase his priority so simple moves like jab wont cancel spin dash, and greatly increase his killing power. How dumb of you to think he should belong in low tiers. You're supposed to be the best, you should know this stuff more than anyone.

Use squirtle, I'm starting to like Fair battles
 

Jigglymaster

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U gotta blame SBR for it.

It really comes down to including the C tier. and The C tier is defiantly not low tier.

Just make sonic suck for the next tier list.
 

Kaiber Kop

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U gotta blame SBR for it.

It really comes down to including the C tier. and The C tier is defiantly not low tier.

Just make sonic suck for the next tier list.
Thats why he isn't using him anymore lol. More money for him in the long run.

I'm on to your tricks malcolm...:chuckle:
 

Jigglymaster

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PLEASE READ THIS: I found out that my entire crew will not be coming. Meaning I won't have any support for running the tournament. Unless if I find new people to help me run it I'm going to cancel the tournament. That is all.
 
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