Tranquility - Game Over

[Cream Team]

I said the interaction was TvT

then I voted you

it's pretty ****ing obvious something either changed or the vote is pressure, doesn't need to be spelled out for you to understand. Then I reverted back to a townread from your later content and dropped it. I shouldn't have to write a novel on why the jump went where it did. That's something I can share if someone asks, like you did here, but not something i'm gonna ramble about for the fun of it

Ohhhhhh. Dude, I actually feel you. But, like, listen man: you gotta find yourself in a comfortable place in between. It's out there why even GHEB wants people pushed, and he's being poetic about it.. Just laying votes n doing little else, like, doesn't expose your vibe. But, like, lemme feel your vibe. Vibe with me bro

 

[Cream Team]

Btw @ soup, know that I don't dislike the case at all. I just don't think it's enough personally to make me wanna switch from the likes of more scummy people. I'd rather look for a flip before I call anything because he's too null for my taste, in his actions.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

No. You don't get to do this. I get you're replacing in but it's not a long game in the slightest and I want more from you. C'mon Nabe, put at least a little bit of effort in.

What's with the antagonism? I fully intend to play this game. I've certainly been inactive since replacing in, but only owing to a router mishap, and giving me that treatment is definitely unwarranted.

 

[Cream Team]

Actually when all you say is who is play it kinda is, but please go ahead and post content it'd be highly appreciated.

 

[Kantrip]

Ohhhhhh. Dude, I actually feel you. But, like, listen man: you gotta find yourself in a comfortable place in between. It's out there why even GHEB wants people pushed, and he's being poetic about it.. Just laying votes n doing little else, like, doesn't expose your vibe. But, like, lemme feel your vibe. Vibe with me bro

I've been laying out thoughts way more than "just laying votes n doing little else" though, and I feel like I've commented on every major development in the thread, and been a part of some of them.

I want JTB to die because he's the grimiest of the slots that need to die or will stay alive until LyLo. I want Vinyl to replace out because he's not going to play the game and is one of those slots as well. I don't think Vinyl is scum, but I would lynch him just to get him out of the game. pawn and Joey replaced, which brings the number of nullinactivecrapshoots down to a manageable level, but JTB still needs to die for jumping back and forth between 2 wagons of players I townread in the scummiest possible way. Hopping on with a vote and no reasoning can be okay, hopping on with a vote and good reasoning is great, hopping on and trying to justify it with bull**** reasoning is a noobscum tell for me. When pressured for his bad soup vote, he ignored what people were saying and didn't address them at all, but simply jumped on the new biggest wagon that had formed on pawn. He continued to get pressure and basically left the thread without ever commenting on people voting him even though he has been in here since it happened. He needs to die. Then we've got shenan who I feel keeps coming in here and trying to fake Rake's town meta. I see a bunch of random questions or interacting with players, but I don't see anything getting done with it. Like, I can't see a development of reads, or even reads changing. They sat on soup forever even when there were things that totally (in my eyes) would have made Rake reconsider his read and back off, maybe try to pressure some other slots. Like, he always goes for the reactionary approach early in games, feeling people out and jumping around everywhere until he feels settled into reads. But he jumped on soup and stayed on soup and hasn't really done anything since. Sure I think he switched to JTB, but it was way after the fact (and they had been in thread). It can't have been because they disliked something new of his because people were still voting him for the same ****. I think shenan just realized that JTB was going to get lynched and jumped on to bus, but prior to that all he did was sit on soup and not develop his reads. So all the questions were hollow and the reaction tests were faked, and I truly believe he is scum with JTB. The last slot I don't like is YOLO, but it's more gut and it's the read I was trying to sit on and wait until later in the game to worry about.

 

[Kantrip]

There's an explanation of my scumreads. I feel like i've already been very transparent about my townreads but if you need me to go into that too let me know

 

[Cream Team]

There we go that's substance.

Did you read my post to yolo about JTB? His play was bad and lazy, but what does he benefit from doing that the way he did as scum? As town he benefits a vote, as scum he benefits ???. Maybe being behind a lynch? But that's a very noob line of thought. His play is lazy and unmotivated. But not scummy per se.

Maybe we do in fact have a vig. Wouldn't you rather go for someone who is actually scummy and let that person take care of it? I solemnly swear that if he stays inexplicably null (which he will if he's alive) toMorrow, doesn't replace out soon, or a vig doesn't kill him toMorrow, we can gun em for still being around. You're confident his play is dumb, but dumb vs scum is hard to differentiate, which is why I'd rather go for scummy slots.

And yea if you read back a page you'd see who I think is actually scummy.

Shenan, however, is an excellent route, and I do remember you mentioning his play earlier. My b for forgetting.

And no don't be soup and insecurely see this as me giving you permission to do one thing and not do another. This is developing reads with other players, and I like speaking definitely. So feel free to tell me why JTB's not just bad play, and why he's bad and scummy cuz I still don't see it.

Can't wait to be called white knighting again

 

[Cream Team]

Don't worry bout town reads it ain't important till it's important.

 

[Kantrip]

JTB had no content and obviously needed to get his head in the game somehow. Sometimes for inexperienced scum it can be hard to fake a scumread. He felt like he needed to get on board a wagon, so he found a player to dislike and came up with some reasoning for it. The reasoning was utter crap and not something I see someone thinking in a town mindset coming up with and actually believing. I don't think that JTB's soup vote was something that even he himself bought into. It was a popular wagon at the time, and plenty of people had some decent reasons for voting him. JTB's was just a terrible wagon hop. I don't see dumb town in this because I don't see any denomination of town buying into his ****ty post. It's the post of a newb scum player who wants to get involved in the game. I don't think he was necessarily expecting to contribute to soup's mislynch, but he was trying to voice a scumread with his own paraphrased reasoning. Turned out it was utter **** so he jumped on pawn instead and then left the thread forever so he wouldn't have to answer for his crimes, probably hoping a cleared slot would protect him so he wouldn't have to. Lo and behold, now you're deterring the wagon away from him while he's not even here and he's still scummy as balls

 

[Kantrip]

I want JTB dead toDay because I am sold on his play being impossible for me to justify as townplay and do NOT want him to slip away by being completely inactive while you defend him, or by him getting replaced where we think "hey let's just let the replacement catch up" and we forget how scummy he is.

 

[Cream Team]

JTB ain't inexperienced.

 

[YOLOSWAG]

so much for not whiteknighting

dont crumble to gorf. jtb dies today

 

[Kantrip]

Which proves my point more rather than less. There's even less justification for his play being town founded on "dumb over scum" when he's not inexperienced, and he's not dumb. He just made up crap reasoning for his scumread, tried to brush it off when jumping to someone else, and is now gone from the thread

 

[Cream Team]

The thing is, he's not dumb. His play is lazy and uninspired. I remember saying something like that to Garg earlier about you to deter him from tryna scum read you. Your D1 play isn't scummy, and it's hard to say that JTB's play is scummy. It's lazy and needs to go before lylo, but as much as I can't justify it as townie play I just can't justify it as scummy play. I'll support his lynch if that's what it ends up coming down to but there are actually scummier players.

 

[Kantrip]

Lazy jumps on wagons without giving reasoning

Lazy does not jump on wagons with reasoning that doesn't even make ****ing sense

 

[Cream Team]

I'm telling you it's not white knighting. You know I'm right and I'd probably support the wagon more if you admitted it's not cuz it's scummy but it's cuz he's unbelievably a non entity, for which I say I'd rather lynch a player that's actively scummy but if it comes down to a JTB lynch so be it.

Hey when's deadline?

 

[Cream Team]

I'm just saying if he's scum his mates are barking up a storm at him while we speak.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

youre def not right. his play is scummy and we want to get rid of him while its still early. the longer we wait the longer time we give people to start posting dumb **** to the tune of "no please lynch me instead!" cuz everyone gets scummier over time. just let the dude die and we get shenani tomorrow

 

[Cream Team]

**** I really wish I can fight this wagon into going through toMorrow but I mean it's justified so like ****ing ****.

****.

Vote: JTB

He DOES need to go and he WON'T improve. Just... ****.

 

[Cream Team]

PROMISE me Shenani dies toMorrow. Idgaf how we get there, he's lynched toMorrow. We can pressure whoever and hbc whoever but HE NEEDS to go too.

 

[Kantrip]

pree sure shenan and jtb are mates.

 

[Cream Team]

Btw I have no problem with the Day ending soon. The games gotten slow n a new Day to get Nabe read up would be groovy.

 

[YOLOSWAG]

youre def not right. his play is scummy and we want to get rid of him while its still early. the longer we wait the longer time we give people to start posting dumb **** to the tune of "no please lynch me instead!" cuz everyone gets scummier over time. just let the dude die and we get shenani tomorrow

my b

im fine with waiting for nabe to catch up to speed

 

[Red_Antoine]

I'm telling you it's not white knighting. You know I'm right and I'd probably support the wagon more if you admitted it's not cuz it's scummy but it's cuz he's unbelievably a non entity, for which I say I'd rather lynch a player that's actively scummy but if it comes down to a JTB lynch so be it.

Hey when's deadline?

the 11th.

 

[Red_Antoine]

pree sure shenan and jtb are mates.

Huh? How so?

 

[Kantrip]

Huh? How so?

They are both individually scummy

and shenan sat on soup all Day until JTB looked like he was going down at which time shenan jumped on JTB. JTB didn't have any new content so shenan's timing was really random unless it was bussing (pretty sure it was bussing)

 

[Red_Antoine]

Unless you have a good other direction in mind JTB is the best direction for today. He hasn't even tried to get back to us and we plain stand nothing to lose slot-wise if we're wrong on him while still having a really good chance of flipping scum.

I'm willing to wait, not the whole say phase but some time for him to post something.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

**** i need to play this game

why has it stalled so much in the past couple of days. am i really that necessary for progress, are we that decided on a lynch, or what?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

youre def not right. his play is scummy and we want to get rid of him while its still early. the longer we wait the longer time we give people to start posting dumb **** to the tune of "no please lynch me instead!" cuz everyone gets scummier over time. just let the dude die and we get shenani tomorrow

i'd rather lynch shenan but i can get behind this

a jtb saved is a jtb earned but if all we're earning is scummy play then i don't really want jtbay

vote: jtb

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

oh right

that's why there's no action

the wagon's sitting on an inactive, so there's no interaction to be had because anyone else ain't afraid of pressure at the moment

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Soup can tell you how fast me vs him can get completely out of hand, I wasn't about to do that to everyone. You should be thanking me for not pressuring him as hard as possible, because all that would have done is made him crack and probably be killed before anyone could talk about it, and that's not ok

this is more interesting in comparison to what you've posted above

I've seen you dive headfirst after newbies, both to see how they'd react and for who would take the bait. You sat your vote on soup and didn't really do anything with it the rest of the phase. I stand by having an incomplete view of your motives because of this based on how d1 went (gog****ing dammit bsp), so seeing how you continue d2 doesn't really do so much for me. BSP's modkill allows you to have time to recommit to it with it looking natural whereas earlier you held your vote on soup--again, seemingly holding him at arm's length--while you pursued other ventures. I did expect you to dive after him aggressively, given that I've seen you do that at any point in the game to bait reactions from the playerlist, but it doesn't really matter as much as the fact that you threw your vote then and then barely acknowledge soup for the rest of the day.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

cuz he can get away with it and hes done it before. im lookin at what hes done in this game

anyways i dont wanna lynch ruy today. i hate a lot of what that slots done but im not ****ing going into d3 with jtb/shenani/nabe all alive with a flipped town ruy id be mad as **** and i know you would as well

new page

request votecount

oh gog that'd be a repeat of luigi's mansion all over again

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I haven't read shen as much as I want to, but is there anyone who think they both could be town?

if shen is town, yes. i don't see ruy being scum here. played like a dip**** at certain parts of the game but he's probably town.

Moving on with this, something I really want to highlight is kantplay's attitude towards me and how he handled my wagon. Remember when kantplay voted me d1? Why didn't he follow through on d2? He never had a reason to particularily get off me. Kantplay is playing less open and I get the feeling he's afraid to step on some toes. He's playing far too safe. He's one of my picks for that reason. I don't buy that he changed his style because it hasn't warranted results. He hasn't even bothered to vote anyone yet, which is telling to me because he was quick to jump on shen (a common wagon) bsp (also a common wagon) and then me late d1 when I was gtting steam.

His votes are too calculated and his reasoning isn't enough for me to believe he had a good reason for his actions.

I recall kantplay also bursting into d1 stating that shen was scum, but it never went anywhere. He just voted and sat on it, never progressing at all.

I think kantplay is the best lynch because of this, and he's who I want today. His play doesn't line up and its too shady for me to call town. I also think it will help patch things up with shen as I feel there's meat to what I said about his shen vote earlier.

vote: kantplay

i do like this train of thought. i was wondering what happened to potato's vote on you earlier, though i don't recall ever making mention of it. it did vanish but at the time, i thought he was the only one who had a good reason to vote you d1 outside of arguably shen early.

 

[YOLOSWAG]

well thats hammer

this is why i kept doing the big letters -1 thing

feel free to finish your thoughts fore the day ends

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I just got done with a long-*** day of work and I'm bloody tired, but I still have some things I want to do, so I'm gonna try and power through it.

I'm curious why the game decided to quiet down as of late and I'm surprised nobody has gotten at me about Kantplay, beside Kantplay himself.

again, main wagon's on an inactive *****. it's necessary but i doubt we're getting much more done today because of it.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

well thats hammer

this is why i kept doing the big letters -1 thing

feel free to finish your thoughts fore the day ends

whoops

oddly enough, i don't really feel bad about it. the game had slowed down tremendously and i feel his flip will give us more than little fights between slots like soup v kantrip will at this moment. no real bite to back the bark, y'know?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

actively lurked
started the biggest wagon

The lynch I want is the one that's in the works and all my reads are out there. I don't see how I'm actively lurking at all and I'm not going to change my play to accomodate someone who doesn't like it

what is this lynch gogdammit kantplay you don't have to have a ****ing encyclopedia for someone to be scum

 

[Shenanigenius]

Looks like I got here in time. I maintain he at least wasn't important no matter what happens good or bad.


@Washed: Honestly I was afraid if we got on his case too much he'd just Mass Effect lol


@ Cream Team : I know you dislike our slot, but if you didn't lynch us tomorrow who would you look into?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

whoops

oddly enough, i don't really feel bad about it. the game had slowed down tremendously and i feel his flip will give us more than little fights between slots like soup v kantrip will at this moment. no real bite to back the bark, y'know?

like, i'm reading page 22 at the moment and instead of there being any major pressure from one side or the other, they're literally just being ***** to one another at the moment. soup's ******** that he's not a power player and kantrip's just toying with him with a ****ing faked dayvig shot.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Unvote

ruy pulling ruy town meta again