Dragon_Hawk
Smash Lord
FFS just do 4 stocks each.
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Europhoria
Smash Lord
If he wants to then fine. I'm making it 6 so it's vaguely fair.
Runawayfire
Smash Lord
No no, we'll do 6 just like you said.
I know your ego will hold you to it.
I know your ego will hold you to it.
Europhoria
Smash Lord
*Shrug* That's fine. I don't care tbh, your ban?
Runawayfire
Smash Lord
Yoshi's...
Dragon_Hawk
Smash Lord
unknown522
Some guy
Stupid pointless arguing. Time for my post.
Seriously tho, u guys really need to pick up more characters. U guys get counterpicked all day, and the skill somehow doesn't seem to really come from there if u win just by character.
About Jake: he does have a gay play style and does win because he uses only peach, but still he wins so wae can't argue about that. Plus he beats lots of marths, (and other characters if they actually does counter peach)
Nate and Mike: If u guys are gonna MM, then do it properly, because if nate were to win in a fair 4 stock match, then there can be no complaints. If u guys do it with Nate having 6 stocks, then if mike loses, then he can hold it against nate that he had a 2 stock advantage. Otherwise, it'd be a win-win for mike (besides the money, but that's not what the arguement's about). He could just say if Nate were to win: "he had a 2 stock advantage" or "even though I lost, I took 4-5 stocks off Nate.........(which could lead to more)" obviously.
Still, what is it going to prove when one of u win?
Seriously tho, u guys really need to pick up more characters. U guys get counterpicked all day, and the skill somehow doesn't seem to really come from there if u win just by character.
About Jake: he does have a gay play style and does win because he uses only peach, but still he wins so wae can't argue about that. Plus he beats lots of marths, (and other characters if they actually does counter peach)
Nate and Mike: If u guys are gonna MM, then do it properly, because if nate were to win in a fair 4 stock match, then there can be no complaints. If u guys do it with Nate having 6 stocks, then if mike loses, then he can hold it against nate that he had a 2 stock advantage. Otherwise, it'd be a win-win for mike (besides the money, but that's not what the arguement's about). He could just say if Nate were to win: "he had a 2 stock advantage" or "even though I lost, I took 4-5 stocks off Nate.........(which could lead to more)" obviously.
Still, what is it going to prove when one of u win?
Europhoria
Smash Lord
Look, if he wants to do 4 stocks then that's fine. (I wouldn't challenge to a 6 stock vs. 4 stock if I thought I would lose btw...)
unknown522
Some guy
obviously, but u never know
Dragon_Hawk
Smash Lord
Europhoria
Smash Lord
Fine. If there's a demand to do 4 stock each, then cut it to Bo5.
To balance it out, we can do a low tier match, same rules, same cost. His Luigi is the heavy favorite there much like my Marth is in the high tiers. Would that appease Nate (and the crowd? xD)
To balance it out, we can do a low tier match, same rules, same cost. His Luigi is the heavy favorite there much like my Marth is in the high tiers. Would that appease Nate (and the crowd? xD)
unknown522
Some guy
^ Do whatever, but just keep it even stocks, otherwise it'd be weird
I would say the same thing if u were on the top of the PR, winning and only using shiek, but u play fox and ICs as wellBut I play SheikI don't have a bad matchup.
Dragon_Hawk
Smash Lord
i usually go fox vs ambrose because i hate sheik dittos even though i'm good at them. i use ic vs low tiers because i feel sorry for them. after that it's sheik.
Runawayfire
Smash Lord
You mean My Luigi vs your Yoshi I'm assuming? Bo5 or something like that?
If its going to be an even 4 stock then why even do it for money when we could just be in the same pool or whatnot. I didn't take this challenge to prove anything, I took it because it was rediculously cocky and I want to see you lay in the bed you've made.
Europhoria
Smash Lord
Yoshi or Link. Bo5.
I don't mind my current terms, but there's a demand for a 4 stock. I like a MM because then there's no "I wasn't trying" johns afterwards because it wasn't for anything.
So, then we've come to... 4 Stock each MM,
Your whatever vs. My Marth, Bo5, 10$
Your low tier (Luigi) vs my low tiers, Bo5, 10$
?
(My stage ban changes for low tier)
I don't mind my current terms, but there's a demand for a 4 stock. I like a MM because then there's no "I wasn't trying" johns afterwards because it wasn't for anything.
So, then we've come to... 4 Stock each MM,
Your whatever vs. My Marth, Bo5, 10$
Your low tier (Luigi) vs my low tiers, Bo5, 10$
?
(My stage ban changes for low tier)
Chaotic Yoshi
Smash Lord
that was an insightful post david, glad i read it before you edited it you bas tard child
Runawayfire
Smash Lord
Somehow I think we're both going to meet up in the normal tourney anyways.
So the low tier challenge is accepted as it spices things up.
So the low tier challenge is accepted as it spices things up.
Europhoria
Smash Lord
Both 4 stocks, or neither preferably.
Or just the original one; 6v4.
Or just the original one; 6v4.
Dragon_Hawk
Smash Lord
@ Chaotic: Well, if people are still interested...
My worst matchups as a player are Peach and Fox. I suck vs both of them. I don't know why but I do. Lack of experience probably. Anyways. Peach I go Sheik because I feel Sheik has the advantage or is even so I don't see the need to use a secondary, even though my Fox seems to be quite effective against Peach given how campy, laser-happy and drill-shine proficient it is, which is what you need in Fox to beat Peach. I feel more comfortable as Sheik.
Vs Fox the only counter is Falco and I don't feel like learning another character for a single matchup given that Sheik vs Fox is even or about even anyways and Falco vs Fox is also about even (55/45 maybe). Falco is useless for my every other matchup so I don't see why I should.
The only time I use my secondaries (IC and Fox) are when I feel like loling around or on gay stages that Sheik cannot fight. If, for instance, Nate wants Mute City I go Fox because I like the low ceiling and space for laser camping and bair camping and dd camping. It's workable as Fox whereas it's murder for Sheik (her worst stage on top of one of Jiggly's best ones).
IC I don't use because they suck vs Fox it's not even it's more like 55/45 or 60/40 for Fox (actually it's closer to 57.5/42.5 but that's a decimal so pick one of the nice whole numbers). I go IC vs low tiers because I feel sorry for them. I suck with Sheik vs a few of them, namely Luigi and DK. But I feel more comfortable vs low tiers as IC. I've played the matchups more. Only exception is Kirby, where I feel Sheik is better choice but fortunately I'm the only good Kirby around ergo I don't have to worry about it. If I did face a Kirby I'd probably go Fox anyways because I'm lazy and it's just 3 minutes of lasers, u-smash, u-smash from shield, bair, nair --> u-smash, u-throw u-air and dd camping.
Oh yes. I forgot this. I usually beat the other IC of the GTA given that I know the matchup very well and have the best IC in GTA anyways so I'm probably most understanding of their abilities vs Sheik and what they have to do to win. I also know how Sheik fights back and fight the matchup in the gayest way possible ask Ambrose or Steve for more information on the matter. I find the matchup easier than I should, perhaps this is because I am grossly better with Sheik than they are with IC but somehow I doubt this. Steve and Ambrose are proficient with IC. I'm more inclined to believe that IC don't actually counter Sheik that hard it's more like 45/55 for Sheik. Definitely manageable. In any event, the other day I played Jeffman's IC and found him easier with Sheik than with Fox in every game I played. I won all of them, often by 2-3 stocks but most of the 3-stocks were with Sheik.
So, overall, I just generally feel more comfortable as Sheik. If you want to counterpick me, I encourage you to do so. I usually wind up losing to the people with solid mains more often than the people with ******** secondaries so I really don't care. Only person I use Fox r1 against these days is Ambrose because I despise the Sheik ditto (even though I'm okay at it).
My worst matchups as a player are Peach and Fox. I suck vs both of them. I don't know why but I do. Lack of experience probably. Anyways. Peach I go Sheik because I feel Sheik has the advantage or is even so I don't see the need to use a secondary, even though my Fox seems to be quite effective against Peach given how campy, laser-happy and drill-shine proficient it is, which is what you need in Fox to beat Peach. I feel more comfortable as Sheik.
Vs Fox the only counter is Falco and I don't feel like learning another character for a single matchup given that Sheik vs Fox is even or about even anyways and Falco vs Fox is also about even (55/45 maybe). Falco is useless for my every other matchup so I don't see why I should.
The only time I use my secondaries (IC and Fox) are when I feel like loling around or on gay stages that Sheik cannot fight. If, for instance, Nate wants Mute City I go Fox because I like the low ceiling and space for laser camping and bair camping and dd camping. It's workable as Fox whereas it's murder for Sheik (her worst stage on top of one of Jiggly's best ones).
IC I don't use because they suck vs Fox it's not even it's more like 55/45 or 60/40 for Fox (actually it's closer to 57.5/42.5 but that's a decimal so pick one of the nice whole numbers). I go IC vs low tiers because I feel sorry for them. I suck with Sheik vs a few of them, namely Luigi and DK. But I feel more comfortable vs low tiers as IC. I've played the matchups more. Only exception is Kirby, where I feel Sheik is better choice but fortunately I'm the only good Kirby around ergo I don't have to worry about it. If I did face a Kirby I'd probably go Fox anyways because I'm lazy and it's just 3 minutes of lasers, u-smash, u-smash from shield, bair, nair --> u-smash, u-throw u-air and dd camping.
Oh yes. I forgot this. I usually beat the other IC of the GTA given that I know the matchup very well and have the best IC in GTA anyways so I'm probably most understanding of their abilities vs Sheik and what they have to do to win. I also know how Sheik fights back and fight the matchup in the gayest way possible ask Ambrose or Steve for more information on the matter. I find the matchup easier than I should, perhaps this is because I am grossly better with Sheik than they are with IC but somehow I doubt this. Steve and Ambrose are proficient with IC. I'm more inclined to believe that IC don't actually counter Sheik that hard it's more like 45/55 for Sheik. Definitely manageable. In any event, the other day I played Jeffman's IC and found him easier with Sheik than with Fox in every game I played. I won all of them, often by 2-3 stocks but most of the 3-stocks were with Sheik.
So, overall, I just generally feel more comfortable as Sheik. If you want to counterpick me, I encourage you to do so. I usually wind up losing to the people with solid mains more often than the people with ******** secondaries so I really don't care. Only person I use Fox r1 against these days is Ambrose because I despise the Sheik ditto (even though I'm okay at it).
Runawayfire
Smash Lord
I assumed the low tier would be even 4 stocks. Lets do that first, and then assuming I win, lets do the original 6v4 one as well if we're both still up to it.
Europhoria
Smash Lord
I issued the low tier because I'm hideously under-confident in my low tiers and I expect to lose; this compensates for a 4stock vs. 4stock of my Marth v. your whatever.
Tbh I just want the original challenge, there just seems to be some demand for a change to it.
Tbh I just want the original challenge, there just seems to be some demand for a change to it.
Runawayfire
Smash Lord
I still want the original challenge, so then lets stick with that.
Oooor we could even do the low tier followed (most likely) by a 4v4 bo5 real match if you want.
Oooor we could even do the low tier followed (most likely) by a 4v4 bo5 real match if you want.
Europhoria
Smash Lord
Yes, I prefer the original challenge. People seem to want to change my terms of money match with someone else who isn't themselves (yeah, I was confused too.)
TyrantWolf
Smash Lord
wth are you looking forward to? This is a PR thread, lol.
Dragon_Hawk
Smash Lord
where the hell have you been adnan
read the ****ing thread
read the ****ing thread
Kjdjy
Smash Journeyman
David we havent had a match in like over a month and I won the last IC vs Shiek match we had.
What im trying to say is we need to have more matches.
What im trying to say is we need to have more matches.
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
Is he coming from New York? Thats odd...
Cause' the fact of the matter is, I don't really give two ****s how my perceptions make you feel.
Love you Jake <3 we're going to smash soon kthx.
Nate we should play friendlies, you are the only jiggs I play and I suck at that matchup.
I'm comin ova next week boi.
I didn't mean to stir **** up. I have the right to say whats on my mind, regardless of how hazardous or conflict-inducing those thoughs may be. So be surprised; hell, continue to BE irritated by my thoughts.DeLoRtEd1 said:
Cause' the fact of the matter is, I don't really give two ****s how my perceptions make you feel.
Love you Jake <3 we're going to smash soon kthx.
lolwut?! That happened? With evidence like that I shouldn't be starting **** at all. I don't mind waiting to talk about it at the next one. Though I'll probably not care at that point and will just want to play.Europhoria said:
Nate we should play friendlies, you are the only jiggs I play and I suck at that matchup.
I'm comin ova next week boi.
TyrantWolf
Smash Lord
i am up to date with the current dramadnan.
GTA smashers always fulfill my drama entertainment needs. <33 you guys though.
We should be talking about the more important questions like.
The infamous question of all: Zen or Ken?
Or why does Dzenan's homemade pizza make you gassy (Imadh, was it just me? or did you get that too) (The pizza falcon kicked some *** Dzenan).
GTA smashers always fulfill my drama entertainment needs. <33 you guys though.
We should be talking about the more important questions like.
The infamous question of all: Zen or Ken?
Or why does Dzenan's homemade pizza make you gassy (Imadh, was it just me? or did you get that too) (The pizza falcon kicked some *** Dzenan).
Chaotic Yoshi
Smash Lord
*remembers bernard vs pointman on japes*
Dragon_Hawk
Smash Lord
lol i forgot about that. but yeah. sounds good. i must have confused your ic for ambrose at some point lol.
my sheik's better than when you played it last time.
much better.on the zen note i think zen > ken but not by much. Zen gave me more trouble tbh but Ken is good iunno.
Drolian
Smash Journeyman
this place is like a soup opera
TyrantWolf
Smash Lord
i smell some good chicken soup opera LOLLL
People gotta do it like sauga does it :000 T.O is too serious lollll I kidddd.
People gotta do it like sauga does it :000 T.O is too serious lollll I kidddd.
coolhat
Smash Journeyman
sauga is apparently "where people come to die"
Europhoria
Smash Lord
Adnan, honey, how come you never come out to Scarborough anymore? We miss you and your chicken based diet. More importantly it's just not the same playing without hearing you swear at the top of your lungs.
D
Deleted member
Guest
Dude. It is.
What else is in Sauga than Square One. The bus drivers give you the most ridiculous look as if.."what?! YOU'RE LEAVING SQUARE ONE?!"
Everyone mopes and hopes God smites them with lightning.
Also Bernard, you know I love you, when I read it I was just like, "yoooooooo bnar y d chagne of hart"
Also question
Why does every single intersection in Mississauga look i-freakin-dentical
I guess you know you're in for supreme boredom when your mayor is old enough to be Jesus's grandmother
What else is in Sauga than Square One. The bus drivers give you the most ridiculous look as if.."what?! YOU'RE LEAVING SQUARE ONE?!"
Everyone mopes and hopes God smites them with lightning.
Also Bernard, you know I love you, when I read it I was just like, "yoooooooo bnar y d chagne of hart"
Also question
Why does every single intersection in Mississauga look i-freakin-dentical
I guess you know you're in for supreme boredom when your mayor is old enough to be Jesus's grandmother
Drolian
Smash Journeyman
sauga soup *****es
Clash of the Sausage >XD
Clash of the Sausage >XD
Pointman Rob
Smash Journeyman
</3
>:3
Other than that I have no real comment for PR discussion. I've been away from the tournament scene too long to make judgements just yet.
at the Biweekly I want friendlies against every one of yall. No MMs, I've just been informed I barely have enough money to make my next residence and tuition payments. (**** you halo 3)
Dragon_Hawk
Smash Lord
POINTMAN ROB <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
we need moar games
we need moar games
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