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Top Players & Videos by Character v3.5

FlashingFire

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EDIT: Smashboards was being weird and I accidentally double-posted. See below for the actual reply.
 
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TreK

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Just watched the two vids of Leon. I generally liked what I saw (seeing how Leon played without DACUS was interesting), but his opponents clearly were lacking some matchup knowledge.

Tekk literally threw away three stocks in the first match (4 if you count the terrible DI on that Fair) and continually got hit by Cypher when going in for Shine gimps throughout the set. He also got caught by the tranq in neutral an embarrassing amount of times for how well Fox's neutral game is.

Mahie got hit by even more tranqs in neutral, and some of his punishes off of ZSS Down Smashes and accidental tranq reloads were very sub-optimal.

I'd like to see Leon go up against an opponent that has a better handle on the matchup. *looks through the OP for other sets from that tournament*
Well, that raises an interesting question, @ KayB KayB , is there a particular reason why you're not putting matches where people lose in their respective sections ?
I mean, yeah, it's supposed to show how people play at their best, but I'd argue people only really try to play at their very best when they're losing.

In any case FF, here are the sets I'd say truly show what Leon is capable of :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISlS_vfbXVU (vs Leffen, ZSS, hf.lan 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRvuyIYQFQs (vs Ice, Fox, hf.lan 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOPtrsEbQ0s (vs Charby, Marth, Lan Fusion WF)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgcBhXbkr8E (vs Charby, Marth, Lan Fusion GF 1 and 2)

As far as your critiques go, yeah, Tekk doesn't really play PM, he just Foxes his way to top 8 when there's a PM side event at Melee events he's attending.
I can't john for Mahie though, he's definitely played Leon a good amount, at least in 3.0. Charby and myself know the matchup pretty well (I used to 2 stock Leon's Snake in 3.0, forcing him to go Marth against me, and, well, you can see how Charby does here =P), so look out for our sets against him they should be interesting.

btw don't mind Charby, he's pretty easy to offend. I think he just didn't realize you had only watched the two Leon sets that are in the Snake section atm.
 
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Eisen

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I realize that 3.5 is new and a lot of characters got changed but like...

what's the deal with Bowser's coverage of players, or lack thereof rather? Not to talk ****, but I seriously don't understand why either of those players are in the list.* I know a good number of people, including myself, whose Bowsers I'd argue are better. Lucas' section I can understand being completely scarce, but yeah. If you wanted to argue the adjustment period, then a lot of other characters should show this scarcity too.

Or does this thread just not get updated much? Do not many Bowser players exist? I thought there were a lot.

*Edit: Referring to the players inside the spoilers. I'd assumed if a player was listed, there would be a video of them. Guess not. Still, I don't think Bowser got changed enough to justify not listing his previous players, unless they stopped playing recently/haven't been to a 3.5 tourney.
 
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KayB

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Well, that raises an interesting question, @ KayB KayB , is there a particular reason why you're not putting matches where people lose in their respective sections ?
I mean, yeah, it's supposed to show how people play at their best, but I'd argue people only really try to play at their very best when they're losing.
I go through tons of videos when I update this. I try to look at all of them as much as possible, but ultimately it's a better guarantee of good play if they win. Is it possible they may be playing amazing even when they lose? Absolutely, but sometimes that's hard to gauge. To counter this, if players feel like they or another have played well in a particular match where they lose and link me to it, then I will absolutely put it in the OP.

There are still plenty of matches in the OP where the player linked in the video loses.

I realize that 3.5 is new and a lot of characters got changed but like...

what's the deal with Bowser's coverage of players, or lack thereof rather? Not to talk ****, but I seriously don't understand why either of those players are in the list.* I know a good number of people, including myself, whose Bowsers I'd argue are better. Lucas' section I can understand being completely scarce, but yeah. If you wanted to argue the adjustment period, then a lot of other characters should show this scarcity too.

Or does this thread just not get updated much? Do not many Bowser players exist? I thought there were a lot.

*Edit: Referring to the players inside the spoilers. I'd assumed if a player was listed, there would be a video of them. Guess not. Still, I don't think Bowser got changed enough to justify not listing his previous players, unless they stopped playing recently/haven't been to a 3.5 tourney.
I haven't listed previous Bowser players (ex. Kirk, Nick Riddle) because they haven't been to a tourney yet (that I've found anyway), not because they're not good enough.

If you want to provide more videos, that's fine.
 

Eisen

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Huh, that's surprising. After looking, there aren't nearly as many 3.5 tournament videos as I expected.

Oh, well. Thanks for letting me know, @ KayB KayB
 

Bazkip

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Okay dropping some videos of some pretty solid players from our region

Wak (Falco, also Marth/Fox/Jiggs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rShAmdxHEDs vs Zelmar (Falcon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CeCmtGT0sc vs Bidooof (G&W)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm-PaSGPRDw vs MadVillany2 (Ike)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0RWnYDaR0E vs Cheet (Ness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suX-BNy7vFg vs MadVillany2 (Ike, Mario)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_v46mZZ1N4 vs Pixie (Marth, Sheik)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw7_OjtuLTA vs Nijol (Squirtle)

There's also this one vs Zelmar again but he goes 4 different characters against him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J53a2_H8VbE

Nedd (ROB)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkccWA0bxZs vs Cheet (Ness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xlgk4rzdlbI vs Pixie (Marth)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLp3_m0gcGs vs Swordgard (Squirtle)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNbNxnija9A vs What! (Falcon)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYBsLtS62oA vs Cheet (Ness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyc6tx5dMQg vs Neh (Fox)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdxL9ilIgKs vs Cheet (Ness, Kirby)

Cheet (Ness, occasionally Kirby/Squirtle)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3NTVRpuCto vs Bidooof (G&W)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9pIetJUXHY vs Chemise Carrotee (Jiggs, Mewtwo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9RMyk0UAMk vs Pixie (Marth)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E6VjKtAxGo vs Jager (Ganon, Fox, Link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1MoAwPjLcU vs Swordgard (Squirtle)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQX-WNrhUjw vs Correct (Luigi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_DX7iKszU vs shairn (Falcon, Bowser)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFzKMQLTVA0 vs Meh (Fox, Wolf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hsHzRqofS0 vs Pixie (Marth)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW6C83r8jiE vs Nedd (ROB)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ7LgSLhNKc vs shairn (Bowser)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beeYYbbxvWA vs Bobo (Ike, Falco)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB7SolSO6Ac vs Dice (Mario)
 

KayB

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SCR2 videos uploaded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90lrManmhuk (Vs. Professor Pro, Snake, SCR2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oj43LFU8-g (Vs. Fuzzyness, Captain Falcon, SCR2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB8F6PhcFqc (Vs. Can~D, Bowser, SCR2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBZHLqCv2bw (Vs. Frenzy, Wolf, SCR2)

Is this formatted correctly?
Good enough.

Btw guys, I can't update until I get my computer fixed. Hopefully however I'll be able to update things before Friday.

Sorry.
 

FlashingFire

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I wanna see JZ vs a top Marth, has it happened yet ?
Not in 3.5, but JZ has consistently beaten Zinth (who was on the 3.0 top 5 Marth list) every time they played for the last few months. I don't think he played any Marths at The Salty Runback, but he hung pretty tight with Sethlon's Roy. I can't wait for the matches to be uploaded.
 

KayB

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Player spotlight:
Fuzzyness went insane in GF of a UK tournament, taking a set off Professor Pro and bringing him to game five, last stock of set 2, Pro was at high percent.

He still lost, but he left a mark with his Falcon.
 

Strong Badam

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Player spotlight:
Fuzzyness went insane in GF of a UK tournament, taking a set off Professor Pro and bringing him to game five, last stock of set 2, Pro was at high percent.

He still lost, but he left a mark with his Falcon.
how manly and cool, I'm sure his playstyle was extremely aggressive and interactive :troll:
 

Shokio

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OverZaelous was small this week so the win doesn't mean much, but I got some good ZSS gameplay today and came back to 6-0 Hamyojo after losing to him in Winner's Finals 3-2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m16B-HOD8Zc (vs. Hamyojo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymIs7mvXi8 (vs. Hamoyojo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjRMZeqGAdg (vs. HavikLink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQZ67pQuzA (vs. HvikLink)

Also do we include money matches here? All-Star money matches? xD. Did a Bo5 with Hamyojo, contains Olimar, Wolf, and Roy footage alongside ZSS, of course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K91GgUcTHwM
 
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hamyojo

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OverZaelous was small this week so the win doesn't mean much, but I got some good ZSS gameplay today and came back to 6-0 Hamyojo after losing to him in Winner's Finals 3-2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m16B-HOD8Zc (vs. Hamyojo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VymIs7mvXi8 (vs. Hamoyojo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjRMZeqGAdg (vs. HavikLink)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFQZ67pQuzA (vs. HvikLink)

Also do we include money matches here? All-Star money matches? xD. Did a Bo5 with Hamyojo, contains Olimar, Wolf, and Roy footage alongside ZSS, of course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K91GgUcTHwM
Oi vey. Christmas came early for ya. Hopefully tonight I'll make some IaB footage.
 

FlashingFire

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Hey @ KayB KayB I noticed that Cactuarz is listed in the Missouri section. He is in fact an Oklahoma player, though he rarely enters local PM events because he prefers Melee (it's kinda sad; the dude is incredible with ZSS).
 

Kipcom

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So I'm not very good, but I'm the only Lucas main left in existence, so I think I'm the best by default.
Don't worry you'll get 3.5 vids of my awfulness one day :yeahboi:
 
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