Toonami Mafia - Adult Swim Edition - The sun has risen!

[Raziek]

Ruy, I'll be declining to answer that question until after more players have commented.

 

[Aggressive Mediation]

Day 1 Event 1

A man stood from the back of the crowd.

"You there. Yes, you. The one with the hair shaped like an asparagus. You say you're a Sayain? You get stronger every time you face death and it turns out you've been on the brink or more multiple times? There's only one explanation. YOU HAVE ACQUIRED ATTRIBUTES OF THE DARK GUNDAM WITH THE HELP OF KYOOOOOOOJIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZpa9RF9aj4

"Take this! My love, my hate, and all of my sorrow! Shiiiiiiining Fiiiiiinger!!!!"

Red Ruy, Vegeta Town Scouter, has been slain.

Day 1 continues. Deadline does not change. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Rah Rah go town.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

How in the blue ****

 

[FullMetalLynch]

VOTE: TBG

autobots, let's roll out

 

[KevinM]

Sup homies.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Not much #YOLOSWAGKevbro

you feel like slammin some scum and joining my ballin waggon ?

We all know women love guys who jump on wagons

 

[Raziek]

Oh jesus.

Well, that's interesting.

 

[TBG]

8. TBG - I do not know you, newer to me. Tell me about your ?past mafia experience and how well you place yourself on a scale of 1-10

I guess you're not going to get to know me now. =v

So, I started over at AiB and played there until it died. (~1 1/2 years?) I picked up playing at BGG from MagMag before AiB died, and I've played on and off there ever since.
I found a new mafia home over at NS2, and played there for ~1 1/2 years before it died too. The surviving mafia community there founded CCC, which I play at now, although it's just a shadow of the 40 player NS2 games. CCC's had some cross-pollination with NISA, which I played one game at. I'm currently in my second game over at MS, first there was ~15 months ago.


At my peak, 9 Town 10 Scum. Considering I'm still getting back into into serious high-level games and my skills have atrophied some, 7 Town, 8 Scum.

vote kevin

 

[Terywj [태리]]

RIP in pizza Red Ryu.

Considering I haven't played in how long? Everyone is "unreadable" until I'm convinced otherwise.

 

[TBG]

RIP in pizza Red Ryu.

Considering I haven't played in how long? Everyone is "unreadable" until I'm convinced otherwise.

How experienced were you prior to your break?

 

[asianaussie]

wtf this game

im ignoring all of the pre-game shenanigans

re: dead guy's questions

tery is aizen so he's clearly scum, but im not voting him since that's exactly what he wants me to do, the *******

not a clue about potassium but he's probs town because dkc2

 

[Kantrip]

So is anyone going to take responsibility for that shining finger?

@TBG: Lynching dead weight/inactive players D1 - for or against?

@Tery: Do you have any leans right now? I don't want you using your hiatus as an excuse for a lack of reads. Give me feels if you got em.

 

[Kantrip]

omg the ninja and the recognition of the best game ever. Too good. AA I like you already but can you reconsider ignoring pregame? I think FML dropped some scumtells in there don't you agree?

 

[Asdioh]

Let's get down to business.

Vote: Potassium

Gotcha scummer!

2 minutes after the game opened, Ruy says this. Ruy is now dead.

I do confirm that all information relayed from the Game Moderator in public is strictly accurate.

Alright then, Red Ruy is confirmed (dead) town with presumably some sort of scouting power role. Since he's dead mere hours after the game started, I would assume some sort of scum killed him during the Day phase. I don't see why any town player would do something like that, especially before the guy even gets to play.
Anyway, if we believe the scum has a Daytime role, it's not far off for us (and them) to assume that Ruy's power might have been a Daytime use as well. This leads me to some questions:

-Is it possible Ruy had something on Potassium? It was only 2 minutes into the game so it seems unlikely, but then again he could have sent in whatever his role was during the period before the game actually started, and the mod could have responded right around the time the thread was opened. My point: "gotcha scummer" is something that needs to be looked at, coming from a dead town PR where there is evidence of possible Daytime abilities. Especially in this game.

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I do not confirm that all information relayed from the Game Moderator in private is strictly accurate.

Also something to consider.

-Was his death caused by retaliation? We can see that Potassium has posted between the game opening and RR's death, so he's had time. If you ask the question of "Why was RR, specifically, killed?" I find it hard to think of any other reason. Scum would have waited to kill someone, unless they wanted to shut someone up ASAP for fear of any info they might have on them.


Enough about that, suffice it to say that my first vote of this game will be

Vote: Potassium




Then there's Raziek's claim. A claim like that is generally risky for scum, so I'm just gonna go with town on this one.


And then there's Gheb's info. Someone's been lied to in their PM, and everything can be pierced by something. I guess there isn't much to discuss about this right now. Now, I doubt Gheb's pulling this out of his behind, so it's in his role PM as either part of his role, or safeclaim. Since the fact that he outed this info so quickly screams "town" to me. Normally I'd feel uncomfortable about having two towny reads (Raz and Gheb) off the bat, but with a townie already dead, I think it sorta balances out.

"Take this! My love, my hate, and all of my sorrow! Shiiiiiiining Fiiiiiinger!!!!"

It's supposed to be "anger"

I have no idea if we're supposed to look into flavor from this post, but if we are, then the killer was Domon from G Gundam, which was indeed on Toonami. Although he's a protagonist, it could of course be a scum role. And since I see NO way it was a townie that did it... yeah.


@TBG: questions about peoples' experiences are pointless. I haven't played with you, PrivateJoker, or the people in the FullMetalLynch hydra. I won't be inquiring into your past experiences, because I should be able to judge your alignment solely based on this game. This isn't a newbie game, so I'm assuming everyone has some experience :x

@Tery: do you have anything to comment on all besides that weird john?



Sorry for the wall of text. I normally hate Day 1, but this game actually has interesting stuff happening, so it's easier to get into the game.

Also nobody has really talked about RR's death and the possible causes until me. Am I being perceptive, or just paranoid?

 

[Kantrip]

I actually think the flavour of the kill seems like town flavour reading it now, but that could be meant to mislead.

"There's only one explanation. YOU HAVE ACQUIRED ATTRIBUTES OF THE DARK GUNDAM WITH THE HELP OF KYOOOOOOOJIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!"

Don't know much about the move itself or the show or the circumstances though. I think suggesting that I'm scum that jumped the gun (excuse my pun here) and shot RR because I was scared of his RVS vote is a bit ridiculous. Also your reasoning that with a townie dead you think it's more reasonable for you to have 2 town reads is also pretty silly. Those factors are completely independent of each other, how are you coming up with that logic?

 

[asianaussie]

re: potassium, i dont think there is anything substantial in pre-game, and i would never try to build a case or even support a case on something like that, want to guide me in the direction of these 'scumtells'?

the kyoji thing is just a recurring theme that g gundam's protag uses to tell himself he is murdering in the name of justice - i am not going to take this too seriously until someone flavours up domon or w/e his name is

bit of flavour/role spectulation @everyone, but especially at anyone who has not yet posted: what do you think about the phrasing 'everyone can be pierced by something'? i personally think this means there are multiple types of penetrating weapons in the game, though i dont know how raziek's lightningrod claim ties in to all of this

also, was gurren lagann ever on toonami? if so, that could simply mean there are bulletproofs who still die to whichever lucky ******* scored the kamina/simon role

 

[Detective Prince.]

A man stood from the back of the crowd.

"You there. Yes, you. The one with the hair shaped like an asparagus. You say you're a Sayain? You get stronger every time you face death and it turns out you've been on the brink or more multiple times? There's only one explanation. YOU HAVE ACQUIRED ATTRIBUTES OF THE DARK GUNDAM WITH THE HELP OF KYOOOOOOOJIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZpa9RF9aj4

"Take this! My love, my hate, and all of my sorrow! Shiiiiiiining Fiiiiiinger!!!!"

Red Ruy, Vegeta Town Scouter, has been slain.

Day 1 continues. Deadline does not change. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Lm fao.

 

[Detective Prince.]

Talk about the shot is speculation and as about as worthless as the reason it was done. You joined a game that heavily implied it was *******.

Words

Vote: Potassium

I don't think Potassium would waste his time killing Ryu, and certainly not for one RVS vote. Nobody is going to confess to shooting this phase, and that's even the case if it was actually a player who did it. Do you know who loves guns, along with dayvigs? Ryker. Do you know who is modding this game? Ryker. Perhaps this game isn't ******* at all, and if anything the only thing I see worth delving into is what the living hell is in store for us.

 

[Detective Prince.]

VOTE: TBG

autobots, let's roll out

Vote: Rake

 

[Detective Prince.]

re: potassium, i dont think there is anything substantial in pre-game, and i would never try to build a case or even support a case on something like that, want to guide me in the direction of these 'scumtells'?

the kyoji thing is just a recurring theme that g gundam's protag uses to tell himself he is murdering in the name of justice - i am not going to take this too seriously until someone flavours up domon or w/e his name is

bit of flavour/role spectulation @everyone, but especially at anyone who has not yet posted: what do you think about the phrasing 'everyone can be pierced by something'? i personally think this means there are multiple types of penetrating weapons in the game, though i dont know how raziek's lightningrod claim ties in to all of this

also, was gurren lagann ever on toonami? if so, that could simply mean there are bulletproofs who still die to whichever lucky ******* scored the kamina/simon role

Refer to my last post. You're in a game with Ryker as mod. The man lives off his own ego and masculinity. 'Piercing' is a specific action, and could have been worded in any other way.

 

[Detective Prince.]

Day 1 Event 1

Leads me to believe that these 'events' are triggered by the mod in some shape or form. This isn't the last 'event' that is going to happen if he's numbering them.

 

[Detective Prince.]

RIP in pizza Red Ryu.

Considering I haven't played in how long? Everyone is "unreadable" until I'm convinced otherwise.

I'm going to quote this again if you haven't posted anything of substance in a few days. Don't slip up now.

 

[Detective Prince.]

Indecisive.

Vote: .L-

Asianaussie town.
Asdioh town.
Raziek town.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

It was less about concluding something about Ryu and more about reading you.

So what did you get from it then ?
Besides that tone thing you mentioned.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

What I did with TBG was simply to garner a reaction, and that was my intention. How I worded and how I did it might have been questionable, but for the sake of progression I had to keep the pressure on.

What about his reaction caused the town lean for the swords side, and why / how did you disagree with that conclusion, Soup ?

 

[Detective Prince.]

What about his reaction caused the town lean for the swords side, and why / how did you disagree with that conclusion, Soup ?

Me and Swords agreed he was town and that I was just jumping the gun. His reaction is justified in a sense the game didn't start yet, but if that attitude stays consistent when there is something to talk about, it will be noted.

What about you? You're still certain on what was said?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

omg the ninja and the recognition of the best game ever. Too good. AA I like you already but can you reconsider ignoring pregame? I think FML dropped some scumtells in there don't you agree?

 

[.L-]

A man stood from the back of the crowd.

"You there. Yes, you. The one with the hair shaped like an asparagus. You say you're a Sayain? You get stronger every time you face death and it turns out you've been on the brink or more multiple times? There's only one explanation. YOU HAVE ACQUIRED ATTRIBUTES OF THE DARK GUNDAM WITH THE HELP OF KYOOOOOOOJIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZpa9RF9aj4

"Take this! My love, my hate, and all of my sorrow! Shiiiiiiining Fiiiiiinger!!!!"

Red Ruy, Vegeta Town Scouter, has been slain.

Day 1 continues. Deadline does not change. With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Does anyone take responsibility for this?


It is to be noted that several things occurred prior to this. For one, Raziek claimed Lightning Rod. This proves he was either lying or his lightning rod is limited to Night Actions; it is possible Raziek gave away information that allowed scum to decide to kill during the day instead of at Night. If there are routinely no Night Kills and only kills during the day this is a safe assumption.

Raziek, do you have any more information about your role that is useful to us? Specifics, specifically. At this point unless someone takes responsibility for the Ryu kill, it is an anti-town action. With this in mind it is important for us to recognize that they have a way around your lightning Rod, at least potentially, and we need to be able to plan accordingly.

I'ts a shame we don't know what a "town scouter" did.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Me and Swords agreed he was town and that I was just jumping the gun. His reaction is justified in a sense the game didn't start yet, but if that attitude stays consistent when there is something to talk about, it will be noted.

What about you? You're still certain on what was said?

Paraphrasing what I told Orbo, I felt initially uncomfortable because it seemed like he was forcing himself to take it as a joke, rather than believing it to be so.

In a sense of: he was worried, so he convinced himself you weren't serious , and then made his response to you.

I could look over it again, possible i'm reading too heavily into it , or being stubborn , but for now, my vote shall remain.

 

[Detective Prince.]

Fair enough. You can be town too.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Hm, a detective giving me a easy town pass card ?

Color me intrigued.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

I said that my role PM suggest that there is a lie in somebody's role PM, not that an entire role PM is a lie. It's also nothing I'd worry about since his claimed role doesn't seem to be a threat to town. It may actually be not that bad a role to have in the game at all, from town's point of view.

Does it worry you that it can be circumvented, as we've already seen today?

bit of flavour/role spectulation @everyone, but especially at anyone who has not yet posted: what do you think about the phrasing 'everyone can be pierced by something'? i personally think this means there are multiple types of penetrating weapons in the game, though i dont know how raziek's lightningrod claim ties in to all of this

Could mean strong man(pierce the bulletproof, etc) or it might be something we don't know about yet.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Does it worry you that it can be circumvented, as we've already seen today?

Did we actually see that though? Not only do Lightning Rods work specifically against Night Actions but the Ryu kill was also referred to as an "event". While this could be the result of some sort of Daytime Action it could also be just that - an event, that might've been triggered through a specific course of action. Based on the information we have I don't see how there's a contradiction to Raziek's claim. In fact, it wouldn't be that far off to have a bunch of Daytime Actions or Events in a game with a Lightning Rod.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

@Gheb: Raz is town for claiming y/n?

No.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

SDO, your 215 is bad and you should feel bad for it.

Request Votecount.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

How experienced were you prior to your break?

Uh. Games here and there in 2011. I stopped being active on Smashboards early 2012. That being said, I'm still a rookie to this type of Mafia.

@Tery: Do you have any leans right now? I don't want you using your hiatus as an excuse for a lack of reads. Give me feels if you got 'em.

I won't be, but I'm merely ignoring everything said in pregame which was quite a lot even if I skimmed over some of it. Raziek is probably town, everything is null.

@Tery: do you have anything to comment on all besides that weird john?

Also nobody has really talked about RR's death and the possible causes until me. Am I being perceptive, or just paranoid?

I'm not one for flavour speculation so I'm not going to be doing it / responding to it / trying to analyze it. It's something I've never done much and I don't really remember the flavour to begin with.

RR's death happened near instantly, which makes me feel it hints at someone who was active early enough to see RR's posts as a threat, but at the same time given the nature of this game it could just as well be some random bull****. I've nothing more on that until we get new information. Don't think it matters so much "how" as it does "why".

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Did we actually see that though? Not only do Lightning Rods work specifically against Night Actions but the Ryu kill was also referred to as an "event". While this could be the result of some sort of Daytime Action it could also be just that - an event, that might've been triggered through a specific course of action. Based on the information we have I don't see how there's a contradiction to Raziek's claim. In fact, it wouldn't be that far off to have a bunch of Daytime Actions or Events in a game with a Lightning Rod.

I suppose dayactions are more of a counter balance then a circumvention, but It still stands that there's a way for people to get around it via day actions.
I also don't think that there was just a random event that happened to be a kill. In one of Tom's FF7 mafia's sephiroth's daykill was listed as a"game event" iirc.

Raziek is probably town, everything is null.

why is Raz town? The claim or his play?

 

[.L-]

Did we actually see that though? Not only do Lightning Rods work specifically against Night Actions but the Ryu kill was also referred to as an "event". While this could be the result of some sort of Daytime Action it could also be just that - an event, that might've been triggered through a specific course of action. Based on the information we have I don't see how there's a contradiction to Raziek's claim. In fact, it wouldn't be that far off to have a bunch of Daytime Actions or Events in a game with a Lightning Rod.

This was not a pre-scripted event, at least not one that could ultimately lead to Ryu's death on D1 every time this game is played. We can determine this by the fact that he flipped as a specific role. This was done on purpose and with intent rather than a random "game event".

 

[FullMetalLynch]

That sounds better then my version.