Toonami Mafia - Adult Swim Edition - The sun has risen!

[BSL]

So now can we lynch TBG?

 

[.L-]

Raz, my comrade, I would like to hear from you before anyone else now that the petulant distraction is out of the way.

 

[.L-]

But I will settle for BSL! BSL, how are you.

What are your thoughts on the game in lieu of Soup's flip?

 

[BSL]

I'm surprised that I was right about wanting soup gone. I assumed I was wrong, but since I'm right I feel a little more confident about my TBG read.

I'm still upset that no one is really doing anything because you're OS+EE and I can't read you.

 

[.L-]

I thought you wanted me dead? Now I am null?

 

[.L-]

I can finally post now.

Yo TBG, thoughts. Ya know, to keep someone other than you from being lynched and whatnot.

@BSL what's your TBG read. I forget the specifics and whatnot. Whatchoo got fer me. Gimmie specifics man.

 

[.L-]

Also, tell me why you thought you were wrong.

 

[Asdioh]

Well I guess I owe an apology to Raz. You're not Domon Kasshu after all :/

@TBG you're the one who's been executing people, are you not?

 

[Raziek]

Hear from me about what?

Soup's defensive attitude was starting to shine through like the last time I played with him, which I thiiiiiink was League UPick. I wasn't certain, but the CC sealed the deal.

What I'm confused about is how Soup is dead. Clearly he was the one doing the Shining Finger kills, which explains Kantrip's death. Soup was executed, however. Are we presuming that to be TBG's doing?

I'd like that claim on the table.

 

[BSL]

I can finally post now.

Yo TBG, thoughts. Ya know, to keep someone other than you from being lynched and whatnot.

@BSL what's your TBG read. I forget the specifics and whatnot. Whatchoo got fer me. Gimmie specifics man.

I think TBG is scum. He hasn't done much to make me think he is town. On top of that, he's promised content more than once and it's fallen through every time. He did that whole executioner slip thing, too.

As for you, you've always been null. I wanted you dead for that reason. I couldn't read you, and you were doing a bunch of stuff.

Since there was/is no way for me to figure out if you were/are town, I sort of want(ed) you dead. Not anything huge, otherwise I'd be pushing you rather than just being sad about it.

 

[.L-]

I think TBG is scum. He hasn't done much to make me think he is town. On top of that, he's promised content more than once and it's fallen through every time. He did that whole executioner slip thing, too.

My brain is just so, so foggy. Can you remind how "not doing much" and "being KevinM" make someone scum? I'm not trying to defend TGB here; I'm just trying to point out that you sound more hollow than a cursed man's soul.

Executioner slip, executioner slip... Could you remind me of that stuff too? Quote the posts that are relevant if you can. It's just so foggy up in this noggin' o-mine.

As for you, you've always been null. I wanted you dead for that reason. I couldn't read you, and you were doing a bunch of stuff.

Since there was/is no way for me to figure out if you were/are town, I sort of want(ed) you dead. Not anything huge, otherwise I'd be pushing you rather than just being sad about it.

If I were merely null, wouldn't it make more sense to make me un-null or promote discussion on my slot than just "wanting me dead"?

 

[BSL]

My brain is just so, so foggy. Can you remind how "not doing much" and "being KevinM" make someone scum? I'm not trying to defend TGB here; I'm just trying to point out that you sound more hollow than a cursed man's soul.

"not doing much to make me think he is town" isn't the reason he's scum. it's that stacked with the other things I said that make me think he's scum. on it's own it's nothing, really.

Executioner slip, executioner slip... Could you remind me of that stuff too? Quote the posts that are relevant if you can. It's just so foggy up in this noggin' o-mine.

here's his post where he does it. read from there to see relevant stuff. multiquoting is too hard.

There's not a lot to explain, really. I've been busy as **** with robotics and studying.

As far as the FML lynch, he was already at 4 votes when I voted him. (or so we all thought) The **** reason do I have to vote the guy and summarily execute him before anyone posts? Especially when I can either do it without even posting in thread, or vote him, but wait to do it. There's literally no reason for me to thrust myself in the spotlight like that. It's just horribly flawed logic.



I don't.



Blindly speculating is one of the easiest ways to waste a day, imo.


Anyway, between the long night and being busy, I've just been way the out of the game. If y'all want something, ask, and link any relevant posts.

Gheb starting a wagon on me feels opportunistic, and the TOM lynch is just stupid, but I'm obviously incredibly biased so iono.

If I were merely null, wouldn't it make more sense to make me un-null or promote discussion on my slot than just "wanting me dead"?

because i have absolutely no idea where to begin on changing my read on you. anything you say i'm taking with about 12 grains of salt, and so it's only making it harder for me to play the game rather than easier. when you say something, i can't take it at face value because i automatically assume any of your posts are covered by 17 layers of WIFOM. there's really nothing that can change that, afaik, sorry.

 

[BSL]

how'd that image get there twice?

 

[.L-]

What you're describing sounds a whole lot more like a scumread than a null read to me. Automatic distrust and assumption of Fort Knox-thick walls of WIFOM...?

 

[BSL]

Sure. Except you haven't done anything this game to make me read you as scum. It's just that you're EE+OS.

 

[.L-]

Something rubs me the wrong way about L's push for the kingmaker set up. My gut says to lynch him for it.

???????

 

[.L-]

Ranmaru, your excuses are wearing thin. Why am I seeing at best half the effort I've seen from you in every other game?

What is your updated view on the game?

 

[.L-]

@KevinM: Do anything. At all. Anything at all.

 

[BSL]

???????

Oh yeah, that. I think OS suggested kingmaker once in a game as scum and used that to earn "doing something, therefore town" points. Right? So I threw that Out there. Since the kingmaker thing wasn't discussed any further, it didn't really matter.

 

[.L-]

If you read my notes afterwards, you'd have read that it was actually a good idea for town to follow it in that game. Which is why I suggested it. Because I was scum. And town wouldn't do it because it was different. All I had to do was bring it up and drop it and then the game would tilt in my favor.

Different game entirely here, especially since you don't need to do anything.

Don't believe me?

Who here wants to lynch KevinM? Remember that he's in this game?

Name two reads he's got.

Oh, right, no one is pushing anyone to do anything.

@mod request prod on KevinM

 

[ranmaru]

Ranmaru, your excuses are wearing thin. Why am I seeing at best half the effort I've seen from you in every other game?

What is your updated view on the game?

It's easier to get into a game that is just starting rather than one that I had to replace into. I also prioritize being there when a game starts, or it'll be hard to be there at all.

Currently I'm not liking BSL. Mostly because of his uncertain 'null' read on you. Details below. I'm also fine with KevinM being lynched, where is that guy.

L is doing work, but no one is really challenging it. So it's not giving me any insight into the slot's alignment. It could all be entirely made up and influencing us in the wrong direction or it could be supertowny L trying to help us all out. It's over my head so I can't do anything about it myself. It's a problem I have with OS's slot every time I'm in a game with him.

This seems like him trying to set it up so that there may be possible discussion about your 'enigmatic nature', since having others have negative opinions is beneficial to scum. Anyways, it can be possible he may be just conflicted about you, but If so, I don't really see an effort to try and understand you, and I don't think him wanting you dead really lines up with that. I mean, if he is conflicted about you, I don't see how he would arrive to the conclusion of wanting you dead.

Vote: BSL

 

[ranmaru]

EBWOP:

Messed up with the code, this should be in the post too:

because i have absolutely no idea where to begin on changing my read on you. anything you say i'm taking with about 12 grains of salt, and so it's only making it harder for me to play the game rather than easier. when you say something, i can't take it at face value because i automatically assume any of your posts are covered by 17 layers of WIFOM. there's really nothing that can change that, afaik, sorry.

I feel these justifications are bull****. To me, BSL 'wanting you dead' feels like he is trying to throw things out there

 

[BSL]

I literally said that I was just throwing that out there, just so you know.

 

[Raziek]

Tell me I'm not the only one who just went "What the ****?" At Ran's vote on BSL?

 

[BSL]

I did the same. But that much is understandable in any circumstance.

 

[.L-]

@Asdioh: What do you think of Ranmaru's vote? Of his argument?

 

[.L-]

@BSL: What do YOU think of Ranmaru's vote? Who is your #1 pick for TBG's scumbuddy? #2?

 

[.L-]

@mod: Request prod on KevinM.

@all: What would you guys think of a KevinM modkill?

 

[.L-]

Detailed responses are, of course, greatly preferred here.

 

[Asdioh]

@Asdioh: What do you think of Ranmaru's vote? Of his argument?

I don't get it. Idk.

TBG and Kevin's silences are speaking plenty to me.

Modkill on Kevin is ok with me. Also don't forget that we seem to be in control of 100% of this game's deaths now, as long as Raziek is alive. I find it hard to disbelieve he's town.

 

[Evil Eye]

The fact that his being alive gives us total control of death doesn't encourage skepticism for you at all?

 

[Raziek]

Well, here's the thing EE.

I believe I mentioned this before in the setup speculation I did, but I feel that the Indy daykiller is offset by the fact that my "likely" death (based on all the ******* modding attached to the role) probably enables mafia to start killing again when I die.

So Indy kills if I'm alive, Mafia if I'm dead.

Granted, this ****s the mafia pretty hard if I play it like I have.

 

[.L-]

That's all well and good, Raz, but I wasn't talking to you.... and it answers next to nothing about the reason for my skepticism, actually. Nothing you said there was new to me or an answer to my concern. You also didn't answer my question directed at the whole town. Please start contributing things of substance that don't relate to your roleclaim or this game will be unwinnable.

But I'm talking to Asdioh here. So yeah. Sup acid dough ignore Raz and answer mah q n ****

also

I don't get [Ran's vote/argument]. Idk.

Does this mean you're reading it as TvT, or what? What are TBG and Kevmo's silences telling you?

 

[.L-]

@BSL: At the start of this day I asked you what your updated reads/grasp of the game are in lieu of Soup's flip. All you've given me is a lot of hokeypokey stuff about me that amounts to nothing and "I'm now even more sure about TBG", which is kind of a feat, given that yesterDay he was scum 5ever and such.

Since literally none of that is new it doesn't feel like much of an update, gnamsayn

 

[Raziek]

That's all well and good, Raz, but I wasn't talking to you.... and it answers next to nothing about the reason for my skepticism, actually. Nothing you said there was new to me or an answer to my concern. You also didn't answer my question directed at the whole town. Please start contributing things of substance that don't relate to your roleclaim or this game will be unwinnable.

What? You directly said:

The fact that his being alive gives us total control of death doesn't encourage skepticism for you at all?

And I responded by illustrating we DO NOT have total control of death just because I'm alive. We only do because the Indy is dead now, or so we presume is the case.

Why should a false premise encourage skepticism?

As for the KevinM modkill:

I feel it's a very risky proposition that could swing either direction. If he's scum, hunky-dory, we're good and in the same position with one less scum to find. If he's Town, we lose our ability to lynch TBG or someone else that has actual content.

But he's a liability. So deciding on a modkill is essentially calling him as a lynch that lets us lynch again if he's scum.

So if we want him gone over someone else, sure, go for it.

 

[.L-]

the activity in this game is ****ing horrendous

@mod: Request prod on KevinM, again

 

[Raziek]

If you've got time to complain about activity, maybe you can explain to me why my being alive (potentially allowing us full control of death) should cause Asdioh skepticism?

Also, does anyone want to go ahead and claim they have a day ability they've been using to investigate or something? Because if it turns out we do, we can presumably just no-Lynch until we have a dickload of results.

 

[.L-]

Why doesn't everyone claim today?

Let's start with Raziek because he technically already has, but I'd just like a repeat and it's easier to start with someone who's already claimed.

So Raziek if you'd be so kind, please claim in full. Someone else will follow you!

 

[Raziek]

Not sure if you're skimming or what, but here:

That sounds more or less like mine.

Alright. Here's my full-claim:

Don Patch, Town Aligned Day-Switch.

(Paraphrased) Upbeat guy, moreso than most. When things go bad, I'm able to say something to break the mood or make things even more bizarre. Somehow.

Abilities:

Obnoxious: People don't like me if they're around me very long. So I turn up guilty.

Unlucky: I always seem to end up in ****, so I'm always seen at the body. I'm also told that any role that "gauges" my position will see me at the body.

Persistent: <Insert list of ways to die>, yet I always seem to come back. I'm true BP. Nothing can kill me at night, but there may be something that can.

Attention *****: Night Lightning rod.

And Finally the part that I'd kept under my hat:

Dayswitch: If I die, Day abilities stop working.

I assume that the mafia regains effective use of their NK through my death, but this blocks what I assume is likely an Indy dayshooter.

That is the full-claim.

 

[Raziek]

Oops, thought you were referring to my original D1 claim. Whatever.

Convenience! *cartwheels*