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Toonami Mafia - Adult Swim Edition - The sun has risen!

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heh not sure what you're promising to fullfill here but I'm sure it was something I've asked for and am glad to hear it. So many unasnwered questions and unfullfilled promises in this game they're all starting to congeal into the same muck of a game
 

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3. Asdioh ()
4. asianaussie/BSL ()
7. KevinM ()
8. TBG (#swag, MOD, Soup)
9. Ranmaru ()
10. Soup (MOD)
11. L (EEOS) ()
12. Raziek ()
Not voting: Asdioh, KevinM, TBG, Ranmaru, L, Raziek
With 8 playing it takes 5 to lynch!
Deadline is Sunday March 3rd at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6)!
 

Raziek

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Hmm. Juicing up the mafia...

In Lost AM that was Gorf/Ryker/Kataefi right? With Gheb as indy and a townvig. I'm trying to think about ways Ryker would balance this **** if Raz is truthful town. There's no way Ryker would just put mafia in the exact same unwinnable situation as in Lost and go "trolololol". Raz, surely you have some thoughts. Everybody knows you're Ryker's prag, brother from another mother, the fish to his fisherman etc and I'm sure you guys have even talked about the Lost experience before. Add to that the fact that you are literally THE role that creates this nightmare condition for the mafia and I just don't believe you haven't put thought into this angle, and maybe thought it wasn't worth discussing at the time.
I have very much put thought into this. That's why I'm pushing for a massclaim right now.

I said early on (or at least implied) that my D1 claim was not a full-claim. There's a reason my role seems "too good to be true".
 

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The direction I'm feeling is Soup. I have concerns about him when I replace in, and he just tries to swat my questions away by saying that my catch up is townie. His 're-consideration' tells me that he didn't really read the catch up at all. His reasoning for his 'weird' stance on me is weak, as well. I think it's him trying to make up reasoning for a certain degree of dislike. I think that if Soup were town, he would have poked me/ask me questions right away, not just let a wagon go and not do anything about anyone else until the next day, like a line up. I also feel his answer to my questions are very lacking. For example, he just stated the same thing, when he didn't really answer my questions.


Ranmaru seems weird. I looked at his catch-up and his thoughts on Gheb/AA don't make sense. They aren't very clarified and his whole catch-up was lacking. However, It just doesn't look incriminating enough to make me want to lynch Ranmaru. The constant questions, The unvote and giving Gheb time to respond (even if he hammered himself), and pursuing his reads.
Underlined, if he really had a problem understanding my thoughts, he could have asked, and I could have 'clarified'. He also mentions my catch up lacking, when he himself said it was townie. I want to see why he didn't say my catch up was lacking before. I feel this is somewhat of a opportunistic switch of reads.

Bold, I don't know what these actions lead to in his statement. What were you saying here, Soup?

Vote: Soup
 

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Vote: Soup as I copy pasted that from evernote. Going to school now.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Unprecedented meta trying to jump to conclusions. your vote is laughable.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I'll humor you. I'm in a humourous "2 hours of sleep" mood."

The direction I'm feeling is Soup. I have concerns about him when I replace in, and he just tries to swat my questions away by saying that my catch up is townie. His 're-consideration' tells me that he didn't really read the catch up at all. His reasoning for his 'weird' stance on me is weak, as well. I think it's him trying to make up reasoning for a certain degree of dislike. I think that if Soup were town, he would have poked me/ask me questions right away, not just let a wagon go and not do anything about anyone else until the next day, like a line up. I also feel his answer to my questions are very lacking. For example, he just stated the same thing, when he didn't really answer my questions.
When you ask a question, you're either looking for answer or you don't understand something. The questions you asked about Pre-game meant absolutely nothing. The answer I gave you before would be the same answer I would give you now. I was trying to play a persona and I was excited for the game. It didn't really work in my favor and I dropped it.

Let me ask you a question: Where is the actual reasoning and depth to this dislike of me? You're using frail statements and inconclusive evidence such as me "make up reasoning for a certain degree of dislike." I wasn't making it up and there's an intention to read you. I don't have a truly strong stance on you and the reconsideration is bluntly pointed out. I can't trust Meta and I can't trust typical Ranmaru-tells because if I did that, then I would be playing like you are now. Need me to requote? Need me to restate?

Let me ask you another question. Why are these things not clear to you, and why are you assuming that if something isn't clear to you or you don't understand it, then that reasoning is somehow invisible therefore made up? This is lazy. You're being lazy and on top of it you're being vague. I'm not saying you need to bust out a case point-by-point, but you need to be more clear. This is why I dislike you this game. You're slipping and it concerns and frustrates me. This is why I reconsidered you. You go out of your way to do things, yet they seem completely artificial. Where is the substance? Where is the conclusions? Where is the..anything?

Let's get to the finer points as to why your post is horrible.

"I think if soup were town..."

I think? I think your post sucks. Does that make me right? Maybe. Everything is subjective.

"He would have done X instead of Y..."

That's all this is. I didn't do what you thought I would do and it bothers you. It's true that players may act differently dependent on alignment, but I'm not a sucker and I know how to play scum. I have two gold dice because of it. Slipping up because of an inconsistency isn't my style, and even then, why is your point so damning in the first place? My scum intention, again?

"not just let a wagon go and not do anything about anyone else until the next day, like a line up."

You're talking about Gheb? What? He self-hammered and we decided he was the lynch. I didn't have an issue with you. Why are you trying to imply that I did and that I was just letting a wagon go? I even did work for that lynch.

" also feel his answer to my questions are very lacking. For example, he just stated the same thing, when he didn't really answer my questions."

What is "Answer" to you? I answered. I responded. What do you want me to do, bend over backwards and do everything that you expect me to do? No. Nobody will do that. Not a single player will play exactly like you expect them to. I don't know what you want from me or what you want me to clarify, but speak clearer for me and stop playing like a moron.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Okay, I got a second wind going. Let me tackle what .L- wanted me to do.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Claim order: I don't care. I'll even go first if that's what people want.

Kevin: Absolutely nothing he's said or done has stuck out to me. Even less so than some of the other players, including replacements. Not good for a player of his caliber. Would lynch/10

TBG: Similar. Also that post BSL brought my attention to... I agree with BSL there. Also isn't it kinda suspicious that he's been brought to L-1 and L-2 without being executed, as FML was? When you combine that with how hasty he seemed to insist he wasn't the executioner...

Indy: It's Raziek. :3

L: His play's been fine by me. He (and maybe even Soup) seem to be holding this game together.
Explain? Who has the gun?
 

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@mod: By my count that was about 48+ hrs of on and off (mostly on) crashboards. On as in the crashing, not on as in "boards were accessible". js obv imo
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I swear to god if I get lynched, you will not hear the end of it. TBG, your vote is ****ing terrible.
 

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So what happened to all that substance you were gonna provide, TBG? Yes, crashboards, I know. Nonetheless, you are here, voting.

Conspicuously enough, voting for the one person other than yourself that looks like a lynch the town will have, and the one person you could vote for to tie the wagons.
 

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The Deadline has been extended by 48 hours due to Smashboards being unavailable. (forgot to update)

The new deadline is March 5th at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6).
 

TBG

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Crashboards and stuff made me stop caring. Didn't want to bull**** vote reasoning when I'm obviously just voting for whoever isn't me.
 

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I'm obviously just voting for whoever isn't me.
Sigh

I really hate that SWF's mafia community can't just safely policy lynch every scrub that drops this bomb, which should always always only be from scum, because some people really are that bad.

Nonetheless I'm as okay with a TBG lynch as ever. Do we want that massclaim, though...?
 

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Ranmaru what is your current scumteam looking like and why? Do work.

KevinM what the actual **** bro
 

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@Ran, what is your read on TBG and why?

@Raz: Reads on soup AND TBG and why, because given the current situation your prior read post doesn't cut it anymore.
 

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@soup: This is going to be a tall request, but deal with it. The sooner the better.

Using only the heat you've taken from the roster toDay, and the extent of it (if any), what are your reads on the roster?
 

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TBG has GOT to be lazy Town. I can't see scumplay this bad being a thing.

AND YET. HATE. ALL MY HATE. WHY WOULD YOU POST LIKE THAT.

I want claims from both TBG and Soup, even if we don't see a massclaim.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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No, it's called he doesn't have ****.

Don Patch, Vanilla Townie.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I got that reads-list for you soon.

Right now I'm comfortable with Asdioh, You, Raz, and BSL.

Scum-team resides in Ranmaru, Kevin, and TBG.
 

Raziek

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Soup's scum.

I'm Don Patch.

Give me one good reason not to vote you right this second.
 

Raziek

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Do I look like I'm joking?

What do you have explaining your flavor in your role PM? I've got a LOT of **** in mine because of all my abilities. Give me as detailed an explanation as you can without getting burned for direct quotation.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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You really think, as a member of the mafia, that I would be given the same fake-claim as a townie? I don't see your intention to cc me like that as scum either way. Paraphrase your Role PM?
 

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Hey, Gheb did tell us someone's role PM contained a lie. That's why we need to sort through this carefully.

You first, then I will expand in detail on mine.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Ninja'd.

Would Ryker give us the same PM intentionally? Mine doesn't really say that much, I can go into details if you like but I'm more interested in your claim. I actually watched bobobbo whatever the hell back when it aired and I know a couple of things and to why this could make sense.
 

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I would like your details first please, yes. Mine has a lot, so you could tailor your "not much" to roughly match mine, otherwise.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Hey, Gheb did tell us someone's role PM contained a lie. That's why we need to sort through this carefully.

You first, then I will expand in detail on mine.
Alright, Alright. It says I'm a loose cannon at times yet I like to be the center of attention. I can sometimes exert leadership when I need to, and many other traits. One of those traits is that there are other personalities that including liking to cross-dress and even trying to be serious.
 

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That sounds more or less like mine.

Alright. Here's my full-claim:

Don Patch, Town Aligned Day-Switch.

(Paraphrased) Upbeat guy, moreso than most. When things go bad, I'm able to say something to break the mood or make things even more bizarre. Somehow.

Abilities:

Obnoxious: People don't like me if they're around me very long. So I turn up guilty.

Unlucky: I always seem to end up in ****, so I'm always seen at the body. I'm also told that any role that "gauges" my position will see me at the body.

Persistent: <Insert list of ways to die>, yet I always seem to come back. I'm true BP. Nothing can kill me at night, but there may be something that can.

Attention *****: Night Lightning rod.

And Finally the part that I'd kept under my hat:

Dayswitch: If I die, Day abilities stop working.

I assume that the mafia regains effective use of their NK through my death, but this blocks what I assume is likely an Indy dayshooter.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I'm interested in the aspect of the Day abilities. I want to mass claim and see if there are other roles that can use Day abilities. It just seems like a trump for the Indy atm.

..Any idea why Ryker would give out the same role?
 

Gova

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Soup, (Domon Kasshu, Independent Dark Gundam Eradictor), has been executed!

3. Asdioh ()
4. asianaussie/BSL ()
7. KevinM ()
8. TBG (#swag, MOD, Soup, Asdioh)
9. Ranmaru ()
10. Soup (MOD, Ranmaru, TBG)
11. L (EEOS) ()
12. Raziek ()
Not voting: KevinM, L, Raziek
With 8 playing it takes 5 to lynch!
Deadline is Sunday March 3rd at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6)!


Night 3 has begun!

Deadline is March 5th at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6)

I can't lock threads anymore, so no posting!!!
 

Gova

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No one has died.

Day 4 begins!

3. Asdioh ()
4. asianaussie/BSL ()
7. KevinM ()
8. TBG
9. Ranmaru ()
11. L (EEOS) ()
12. Raziek ()
Not voting: Asdioh, #swag, KevinM, TBG, Ranmaru, L, Raziek
With 7 playing it takes 4 to lynch!
Deadline is March 14th at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6).
 
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