Toonami Mafia - Adult Swim Edition - The sun has risen!

[ranmaru]

Meaning, I'll try to do that after live/tonight.

 

[Gova]

3. Asdioh ()
4. asianaussie/BSL (Ranmaru)
7. KevinM ()
8. TBG
9. Ranmaru ()
11. L (EEOS) ()
12. Raziek ()

Not voting: Asdioh, #swag, KevinM, TBG, L, Raziek

With 7 playing it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is March 14th at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6).​

 

[.L-]

Just expand on TBG as much as you can and I'll ask some questions after if I have any. And if you could provide other content of real substance, maybe reread the game, I'd appreciate it. I'm off to work in a bit so you'll have all night to do work with no dogging from me as long as you don't play XBL for the next like six hours

 

[.L-]

@People that have played with Raz: Is he always this focused on mechanics-and-roles-above-all-else? He's like an exaggerated caricature of Old Town Overswarm right now and it's bugging me

 

[.L-]

Vote TGB

Raziek's played a lot of my games, where mechanics are a pretty big deal. This setup does seem to imply a very... coordinated design. I cannot confirm it with the knowledge we have of yet though.

I think it's about time TGB dies though. Anyone against this & why?

If you're for it, I'd like to see it with your vote.

 

[Raziek]

Why would we not sooner go KevinM, who is literally not posting and will be likely be modkilled anyway?

I don't like this lynch, I've got to trust my instincts on this one.

 

[Asdioh]

Vote: KevinM
Even when he was posting, I didn't like him this game :O

 

[.L-]

Raz I get that you're setup speculating him into a town read, but explain just how the **** TBG's play "doesn't scream scum". Literally all he has done is coast and coast and coast and coast, and speak up when his ass was in a sling (but meticulously avoid providing content), and so forth. He hasn't provided a single ****ing stance since D2, unless of course you count his vote on Soup, which was "voting for anyone that isn't me"... and followed by Soup's subsequent execution.

 

[.L-]

And then of course there's the D1-2 play, which consisted of waiting around doing **** all until somebody obtains a wagon, voting them, dropping a ton of justification in the process (textbook for late-voting scum) and in the case of FML, leading to their town execution.

And the execution saved TBG yesterDay.

I reiterate: You can setup speculate all you want but if you think TBG's play doesn't hoot and holler "I'M MAFIAAAAAAA" from the rooftops something is seriously wrong with your brain. Like brain damaged by fire until you become sexually attracted to adolescent elephants level of wrong.

and speaking of setup spec

His play is bad, but doesn't scream scum to me. His role is basically DESIGNED to cluster**** with mine from the Town side by having his shot pulled at me, and his track shots would see me at the body and encourage him to shoot at me or double-vote me.

I find it more than a little disturbing that you stated that completely on faith, without considering for even a half of a second that it could be a ****ing safe claim. As though TBG's word means anything in this game, and can just be taken at face value as true. Quite frankly at this point I think only mafia could read TownBG correctly because he literally hasn't done a singleprotown thing this entire game, even by coaster standards, and yes you can take that as an implication of my skepticism.

 

[.L-]

btw Asdioh I asked you some questions....... you still haven't gotten around to them

And Ranmaru.... you know what, actually, forget it. Go to hell. Only kind of kidding.

 

[ranmaru]

Not yet. I will fulfill my promise! I played some live. It went on all night. x3 I'll be re-reading some and trying to expand on tbg.

 

[ranmaru]

As I'm re-reading, I realize you want to hear about raz experience.

I have seen Raz talk about setups/flavor etc. Red Ryu has told me that he likes to 'clarify' things alot. (As town I think? Or just a general trait) I remember he claimed early once in Fire Emblem Mafia so that he wouldn't have to have pressure put on later. (Or something like that)

I do know that sometimes he can just come in with a ton of reads and a ton of aggression as scum/town. Sources: Necro Mafia, LoLupick. Here his reads are a bit lacking. Yet, it's no cause for a scum read, just something to keep an eye on.

More in a bit.

 

[Raziek]

You can ask OS about that one in particular, but Fire Emblem's claim was because it was my second game and I thought I could confirm myself through my role.

I was wrong, and it turned out that there was a scum duplicate of it.

 

[ranmaru]

Reading back like 5 or 10 pages and will say some stuff

 

[ranmaru]

I'm cool with TBG, KevinM, and Asdioh dying.

Vote: TBG

Let's get this wagon going. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but what you say is true. He hasn't really done much, and has voted soup without even giving a reason. KevinM for not even being here, who I had to ask myself "Wait, is KevinM in our game?". Asdioh because I don't like his voting of TBG "1v1 me noob" it doesn't really seem like a good reason to vote him, and then he votes KevinM afterwards. I just don't know if Asidoh is serious about the directions he is going in.

 

[.L-]

Ecstatic to have the vote and all, but that post is really weak and I can't decide if it's because of your low commitment or because it's all as shaky as it looks. In the scope of a page (and minimal play oddly enough) your reads have gone topsy turvy and all over the place.

 

[.L-]

What happened to this?

Now you ask why I have 'ignored' TBG. I haven't ignored him. I never found him suspicious. I played with him in another game, and felt some of the things he was doing was a bit of a characteristic of his play. Bad play, but I found it less 'concerning'. (For example, voting without giving a reason at all, or even really ever leading up to a vote)

Now, I can expand and will. I just don't know on what. If you have any specific questions or demands in mind, and I'll fill them...

Despite the fact that you've come around I still want expansion as promised in the underlined. I want to see why you found TBG to be NotScum (you explicitly stated that you never found him suspicious) and how and why you changed your mind

 

[.L-]

Asdioh because I don't like his voting of TBG "1v1 me noob" it doesn't really seem like a good reason to vote him

This I also don't get one bit. It was... really, really really, really obviously a joke. Asdioh is always jokey. The context of the vote was pretty easily inferrable and that action actually made me feel much better about Asdioh, though I suppose if TBG is scum the action would mean very little when Soup was about to get Executed. Nonetheless, that was the gutfeel, and in any case "1v1 me noob" was just... obviously not the reason.

I just don't get it. I don't get why you would say that. It feels forced and strained and reaching, like you had to concoct your dislike of Asdioh rather than actually noticed it. Urgh.

 

[ranmaru]

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt at the time, but you reminded me that he hadn't done a thing and that it was crazy he was still alive. Now with not finding suspicious, I didn't really pay attention to him, because I knew it was somewhat characteristic of him, and I focused on other avenues at the time. (Whatever little they may have been) But that's what I usually do with people that I don't have a problem with. Didn't mean I had a town read on him though. There was nothing else that really convinced me to switch, my lead on BSL isn't that strong enough to keep me on 'em.

I also figured we would need a lynch, and I don't really see anyone else really pushing for one. I'm fine with this one.

I did say I would try to do more, but don't expect a case. (I guess you were thinking I might have done something on that level... to do that I would need to be passionate enough about something... but I'm not, simply; If I were to bring a case somehow, it would most likely be forced... and crappy)

 

[.L-]

Basically we're in the same place we were Saturday. Please expand. Walk me through it all.

 

[.L-]

Wow dat ninja. Hi Ran let's talk why not

 

[.L-]

Okay, I'm alright with that post. Why did BSL fall off the "fine with dying" list, though? There's no Asdioh wagon either, after all, but you still put him there.

 

[ranmaru]

This I also don't get one bit. It was... really, really really, really obviously a joke. Asdioh is always jokey. The context of the vote was pretty easily inferrable and that action actually made me feel much better about Asdioh, though I suppose if TBG is scum the action would mean very little when Soup was about to get Executed. Nonetheless, that was the gutfeel, and in any case "1v1 me noob" was just... obviously not the reason.

I just don't get it. I don't get why you would say that. It feels forced and strained and reaching, like you had to concoct your dislike of Asdioh rather than actually noticed it. Urgh.

I found his vote to seem like a distraction from a scumbuddy, or rather distancing. I would think Scumdioh wouldn't want to interact much with his buddies and would try to go in other directions, as he has done on this page. What I disliked was that he only then started to push on KevinM as you started to push on TBG.

That's it. No more than that. I'm not trying to force a dislike, I just dislike 'em.

 

[ranmaru]

I basically didn't like BSL for just scumreading you because he felt like 'throwing it out there'. Yet, I'd rather keep an eye on him and tackle TBG for now. I felt that TBG trying to lurk by should take priority over BSL calling for your head for no reason.

 

[.L-]

Hmh. What about your case on asianaussie, which is the same playerslot?

 

[ranmaru]

AA, I wasn't sure on after being wrong on Gheb. And he replaced out, so I couldn't really get anything else from him. Keep in mind my stance on BSL wasn't strengthened from my previous stance on AA. Think of it as separate.

 

[.L-]

@mod: Request prod on literally everyone except Ran, Raz, and myself. I hate this ****ing game.

BSL you've been saying TBG is scum 5ever for a while. Where the hell is your a vote? We're about to hit a no lynch here for God's sakes.

Someone else, anyone else: Help us hammer this ****head already.

For toMorrow: Remember the execution! Even one vote out of place could lead to execution. We lucked out D3 in that we'd narrowed the noose down to a bad guy (in soup) and a hella-damn-probable bad guy (in TBG). Luck may not be so good on D5 so no triggerhappy hyperactice Soup-esque voting bull****. Use FoS's and such.

 

[.L-]

And I'd like to reiterate for the Nth time that all TBG has done in this game is rest on his haunches saying not a word until someone is almost dead (FML, Gheb) and then come in with a rather big post. That's a me-too if I've ever seen one. His connections with Kantplay suck and it wouldn't surprise me at all if Kantplay moved his vote from FML because he wanted the new guy to take the heat for the vote that opened FML up to execution.

TBG has then gone on to johns his way right to oblivion. He's made a show of being willing to answer questions or what have you, and yet says he doesn't understand the questions he's being asked. D3 to now is literally nothing but TBG calculatively avoiding providing any content. That's ****ed. That the guy has lived for two Day phases and left us zero connection material to analyze is ****ED.

Meanwhile he voted Soup for no goddamn reason, explicitly stating that he was "voting for anyone that wasn't me", and while town CAN be that bad just look at the rest of TBG's play and ask how this smells in conjunction with it. Particularly when Soup was executed almost immediately ****ing afterward. Let me emphasize what this did. IT SAVED TBG. It also LOOKED LIKE A MISLYNCH TO MAFIA, BECAUSE SOUP FLIPPED INDY.

Everything. Everything about TBG points to mafia. If he is town he's got not only some of the worst play I've ever seen but it's crammed right up beside the worst LUCK I've ever seen. But I don't ****ing buy it.

To top it all off I would put good money on him being Slade/Deathstroke from Teen Titans and Robin being the safeclaim. Never like to stock much in flavor, but it doesn't hurt to point out that the skillset TBG has attributed to himself fits the world's greatest mercenary/assassin much better than Robin, journeyman-level superhero.

 

[.L-]

@mod: Request one-hour deadline extension cuz daylight savings time n ****

 

[Gova]

I have sent out a mass prod to the offending players.

 

[Raziek]

Ugh.

While I don't like it, I don't see much of an alternative right now.

Vote: TBG

I reallyreallyreally hate going against my gut. Hate it.

 

[.L-]

TBG is definitely going today, but for tomorrow what does your gut say?

 

[BSL]

Wait, my vote isn't on TBG? What?

vote:TBG

My bad.

 

[BSL]

K we did it! :D

 

[Gova]

3. Asdioh ()
4. asianaussie/BSL ()
7. KevinM (Asdioh)
8. TBG (L, Ranmaru, Raziek, #swag)
9. Ranmaru ()
11. L (EEOS) ()
12. Raziek ()

Not voting: KevinM, TBG,

A lynch has been reached.

TBG (Red X, Mafia Resourceful Guy) has been lynched.

Night 4 begins!

 

[Gova]

Day 5 begins!

No one has died.

3. Asdioh ()
4. asianaussie/BSL ()
7. KevinM ()
9. Ranmaru ()
11. L (EEOS) ()
12. Raziek ()

Not voting: Asdioh, #swag, KevinM, Ranmaru, L, Raziek

With 6 playing, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is March 22 at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6).

 

[.L-]

 

[.L-]

So we've got three dead bad guys. You guys wanna start ****ing playing this ****ing game, or what?

Not even going to post from this point forward until everyone puts forth what THEY want to do with this Day and some proof of their convictions. Think I've done more than enough work at this point.

 

[.L-]

No one votes.

You FoS, but no vote.

 

[ranmaru]

FoS: Asdioh

That's who I want gone today.

@Asdioh: Where was the last time you have stated a dislike of KevinM, before your vote on him? Why did you joke vote TBG a few pages ago? Also, can you direct me to your latest opinion of TBG?