Toonami Mafia - Adult Swim Edition - The sun has risen!

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Did you realize, that you were a champion in their eyes? Yes I did. So I packed it up and brought it back to the crib.

Gheb (6): Raz, PJB, Soi, Ran, TBG, Gheb

Raziek to me is still town. Not only from the fact he's been generally townie (interactions with Kantrip, Direct claiming on D1) but his role directly trumps one of the most important factors for scum, the Night Kill. Going so far to lie about this would be stupid for him, and not a scum move. If he's telling the truth about something being able to kill him this game, then I would lean on an independent. I'm also thinking that the Independent is the one making the shots, as a Pro-Town role that contradicts another Pro-Town seems like bad design.

PJB has caught my eye, and not in a good way. Thinking back on how I thought of him and how he treated gheb makes me suspect him. He sat on the Gheb lynch for wanting to lynch TOM and that's about it. I'm not going to justify Gheb last phase because he literally just gave up, but it makes me tilt my head.

Hello me.

Who did Ranmaru replace again? Let me go peg his alignment based on catch-up, I was getting lazy and just wanted to roll on Gheb after he started having a fit.

TBG is another slot I don't like. Nothing case-worthy quite yet but maybe I'll get to that stage soon enough.

.L- technically voted Gheb, but he did self-hammer.

I'm going to ask the obvious but it might not seem obvious. Does anyone think this wagon had scum on it? Who wasn't voting Gheb at the end of the phase? AA? KevinM? These are things that should be talked about.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

.L-, we need to talk. I really want to like you, but I can't shake this feeling I get from you. Every time you post in this thread, I think about what you're actually trying to do. I try to come to a conclusion about your approach and pushes. Some of them I like, other I don't understand. Why? I will not read you with the mindset that you are OS and EE, rather you are your own slot. As your own slot, I generally feel you're lacking and you haven't reached conclusions that I would expect you to. Days have been short and there hasn't been much activity, but for a proclaimed detective, you certainly are being lazy.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

PJB, now that Gheb has flipped and everything has gone down, what is your stance on TOM and what is the direction that we should go today?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

VT at all I find is an incredibly strange role in a ******* game. What really bothers me is that he's assuming his VT status is 100% true when he's told there's a lie in a role PM. If I had that role, one of my first thoughts would be that the lie PM could be mine, but he's made no mention of that possibility.

Clarify on this point more for me, with reference to Gheb. What did you mean about "the lie PM could be mine." Did something Gheb say contradict what was said in your PM? Can you share it?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'd also like to make note that I'm perfectly fine with L at this point. Given that OS is a part of that hydra, I would be far more worried about them if they were actively trying to direct town. As for the EE side, I'm a little less sure on. I think EE's general style is to be this laid back, regardless of his alignment. I could be wrong, but I don't think the fact that L isn't posting up a storm is as worrisome as Gheb wants us to think it is.

You and me think alike. Maybe I don't dislike you after all. Is this something you would pursue today?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ranmaru seems weird. I looked at his catch-up and his thoughts on Gheb/AA don't make sense. They aren't very clarified and his whole catch-up was lacking. However, It just doesn't look incriminating enough to make me want to lynch Ranmaru. He's not the most organized player and he can be a bit scatterbrained. There is some genuineness that I like about him, but that's not anything that I would peg other than his characteristics. The constant questions, The unvote and giving Gheb time to respond (even if he hammered himself), and pursuing his reads. I think what will decide my opinion is how he responds to the previous day and how he feels about his previous reads based on the fact Gheb was indeed town. I'm not going to go further about this until then.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I wasn't certain about AA as much as I was before but after reading and look at his responses, he still feels town to me. His reasoning was consistent throughout the day about Gheb and he didn't succumb to the lynch. I wanted to look back on how he treated Kantrip also because that was my main reason to read him in the first place. His stance on me and Kantrip and to brush it off as TvT felt weird but so far his ideal of meta fits as to why he felt that way. It's not a perfect way of thinking, but it's townie. If anyone has a different opinion than me, let me know.

I had a paragraph about Asdioh too but I still like him. His overall stances on Kantrip and things I already pointed out was, and is townie.

Right now I have my priority in PJB, TBG, .L-, and Kevin. Kevin likely having the gun. I need a couple of things clarified from these slots before I do anything else.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

#765. I misread that completely. Don't respond to that because that's not how I feel about .L-; early morning johns.

 

[Evil Eye]

. I think what will decide my opinion is how he responds to the previous day and how he feels about his previous reads based on the fact Gheb was indeed town. I'm not going to go further about this until then.

Why the **** would you spell this out?

You're doing twice as much narrating as actual town work

 

[.L-]

. I think what will decide my opinion is how he responds to the previous day and how he feels about his previous reads based on the fact Gheb was indeed town. I'm not going to go further about this until then.

Why the **** would you spell this out?

You're doing twice as much narrating as actual town work

Except in hydra form.

Really though what are you achieving by doing **** like that, I seriously want to hear your answer. The alarmingly low level of forethought or consideration you just showed gives me such a manufactured vibe it's kind of insane.

 

[.L-]

I try to come to a conclusion about your approach and pushes. Some of them I like, other I don't understand. Why?

You tell me. This is the only question you ask in the entire post, and it demands mindreading capabilities.

Otherwise it's just a block of "we need to talk, and now I'm going to narrate about your slot in a passing manner, but I'm not going to provide any actual issues or topics to discuss".

765 is particularly egregious. The first ****ing line in the post is "I'm perfectly fine with L at this point" and nothing after that point implies otherwise either. Did you read, literally, one single word of that post? Or did you just see the name L mentioned, a block of text, and go "huhur, I agree, looks like we're friends"?

You play the part of someone coming into this game with a renewed spark of enthusiasm, and yet you show such staggeringly poor investment in actually reading or understanding posts. These two things are at odds.

 

[.L-]

What I want more than anything right now is for the kids at the back of the class to step up and tell us what they want to do with this game.


@Asdioh: What's your read on Ranmaru? #swag? TBG? Why? What two people would you push right now if you had to narrow us down to two options?

@Kev: Gimme some reads bro. Also what's your take on everything Gheb?

#swag BSL half: What was your read on Gheb yesterDay? Why was it so? How strong was it? Why?

@TBG: Kingmaker time. Who dies? Why? What is your read on Ranmaru?

@Raziek: I would like a readlist with rationale for each. First blush is acceptable, maybe even preferred. You are free to revise reads later on if the act of doin' work changes anything. Let me see where you're at.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ignore #765. I even said it. My motive for coming in here like I did was hopefully to spark discussion. It might be a bit 'narrative' as you say, but it doesn't detract from points made.

[quote]You tell me. This is the only question you ask in the entire post, and it demands mindreading capabilities.[/quote]

It wasn't supposed to be completely direct, but trying to say that weren't topics to discuss startles me. The whole point was to approach you and get you to defend your actions, but I guess you didn't take it as anything but me just blowing smoke. I'm not blowing smoke and I want to hear your thoughts, because after re-reading so far you've been content in being as enigmatic as possible. When I re-read you, I couldn't pin your motive. I'm trying to understand your town intention to play like this and why you're doing it. I haven't seen any true stances from you and you've been courteous, your push on Gheb and the talk about that Kingmaker bull**** was the most I've seen out of you all game. What are your current reads? What have you gained after Gheb flipping town?

 

[BSL]

#swag post
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What I want more than anything right now is for the kids at the back of the class to step up and tell us what they want to do with this game.


@Asdioh: What's your read on Ranmaru? #swag? TBG? Why? What two people would you push right now if you had to narrow us down to two options?

@Kev: Gimme some reads bro. Also what's your take on everything Gheb?

#swag BSL half: What was your read on Gheb yesterDay? Why was it so? How strong was it? Why?

@TBG: Kingmaker time. Who dies? Why? What is your read on Ranmaru?

@Raziek: I would like a readlist with rationale for each. First blush is acceptable, maybe even preferred. You are free to revise reads later on if the act of doin' work changes anything. Let me see where you're at.

Except in hydra form.

Really though what are you achieving by doing **** like that, I seriously want to hear your answer. The alarmingly low level of forethought or consideration you just showed gives me such a manufactured vibe it's kind of insane.

I thought Gheb was Indy. I thought he was a TOM lyncher and was being obvious, then using WIFOM to cover it up.

Gut says Soup is scum idk why

TGB is scum 4sure tho lol. Hell, I'm 5sure.

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#swag post

 

[hashtagswag]

#swag post
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I thought Gheb was Indy. I thought he was a TOM lyncher and was being obvious, then using WIFOM to cover it up.

Gut says Soup is scum idk why

TGB is scum 4sure tho lol. Hell, I'm 5sure.

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#swag post

Here we go. Just remembered the password.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

PJB, now that Gheb has flipped and everything has gone down, what is your stance on TOM and what is the direction that we should go today?

Gheb's flip doesn't affect my thoughts on the TOM wagon. I don't think lynching TOM is a good idea, because there's nothing in the thread to indicate that he deserves it. The only things in the whole thread telling us to lynch TOM, is Gheb. Gheb had no concrete reason for lynching TOM, he said it was based on the game's mechanics being similar to another game where lynching the mod was a benefit. Given that Gheb flipped town, he was probably telling the truth. That leaves us right back where we were before.

Lynching TOM is a possibility, sure, but why do it? I won't vote for him unless that question gets answered.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Right now I'm getting some serious tryhard vibes from soup. Not sure what to make of it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Tell me how "Tryhard"is a defining read on me and what you're not certain of.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I'm trying to decide if this is vie for thread control is typical from you. I'm thinking it is.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Thread control? I'm not trying to get thread control. I'm not sure what set you off about this.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

You made a dozen posts, all making demands from specific players. If everybody does as you say, you are controlling the pace of the day. Then depending on the answers you get, you can get people to commit to certain reads, and get a direction for the day.

It's not necessarily a bad thing at all, but when people do it, alarms just kind of go off in my head that I need to figure out why somebody wants to be a director.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It doesn't seem like you really have an issue with it, just that you're trying to discern if I would do it as scum. What are your current reads?

 

[#HBC | Joker]

This is actually a tough question to answer, since it's been two weeks since I did much reading of this game.

I know I like Raziek, and I'm fine with L. I was fine with you/swords too. Everything else is hazy. I remember wanting to talk to Asdioh, which is why I addressed him upon the start of the day. We'll see where that goes.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

 

[Gova]

"TAKE THIS: MY LOVE, MY ANGER, AND ALL OF MY SORROW! SHINING FINGER!"​

Private-Joker Brown (Matrix, Town Anti-Hero) has been daykilled!​

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3. Asdioh ()
4. asianaussie/BSL ()
7. KevinM ()
8. TBG ()
9. Ranmaru ()
10. Soup ()
11. L (EEOS) ()
12. Raziek ()
Not voting: Asdioh, #hashtagswag, KevinM, TBG, Ranmaru, Soup, L, Raziek
With 8 playing it takes 5 to lynch!
Deadline is Sunday March 3rd at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6)!

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Welp. See you later guys.

Go Town!

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I am sick and tired of this ****ing ****. We're massclaiming.

 

[Asdioh]

We are?
I dunno if I'm down for that, but I find it hard to care much about this game anyway after it's had like 3 weeks of night phase in total, so sure.

 

[Asdioh]

Also who is Matrix? The only thing I could find was in here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toonami#Total_Immersion_Events

 

[hashtagswag]

Soup definitely posts a ****load like this as scum. I can't remember if he does it as town.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I post a ****load because I care about the game. Both alignments.

 

[.L-]

Leave it to the daykiller to take out my one ****ing town read.

Here's the deal, soup -- as of D2 you were a town read to me, and then you're all "Yeah, mafia games! Doin' work!" And you jump back in. Which was to my expectation. I was happy. And then......

And then you make literally ludicrously unthoughtful plays. You narrate what is going to determine a read on someone in excruciating detail. That reads more of justifying the fact that you're not providing a read at the moment, waving your "Look, I really am doin' work guys!!!!!" flag. I keep trying to think of a town mindset other than Ranmaru that would go "Yeah, posting exactly what I'm looking for from a certain person to the letter so they can contort to please my expectations" and I absolutely can't. That's an example of the manufactured narration.

As does all your blatant skimming vibes, such as 764, and 765 which we've already gone over. I really don't care that you "already said" to not pay attention to it or whatever. You did it. You saw a block of text about L and I'm really wondering if you spent a single second reading any amount of it at all, or you just turboskimmed, assumed it was questioning my goodness, and went "huhur I agree".

For someone who seemingly got juiced up and dove headfirst back into the game you're doing a lot of things with minimal forethought, tons of narration, lots of talking ABOUT people and minimal talking TO or interacting WITH people....... ugh. You cover everything in such a cursory, skimmy, mediocre ****ing way for someone who allegedly got juiced up and dove in for a reread immediately.

And to top it off you go after my one remaining solid ****ing town read.

PJB has caught my eye, and not in a good way. Thinking back on how I thought of him and how he treated gheb makes me suspect him. He sat on the Gheb lynch for wanting to lynch TOM and that's about it. I'm not going to justify Gheb last phase because he literally just gave up, but it makes me tilt my head.

I feel this is a misrepresentation of PJB's play, and I did at the time. It's oversimplifying. It's shallow. It's going after one of my strong town reads. It set off alarm bells.

You say your post was meant to encourage dialogue. Your'e right that all I see is smoke.

1. .L-, we need to talk. I really want to like you, but I can't shake this feeling I get from you. 2. Every time you post in this thread, I think about what you're actually trying to do. I try to come to a conclusion about your approach and pushes. 3. Some of them I like, other I don't understand. Why? 4. I will not read you with the mindset that you are OS and EE, rather you are your own slot. As your own slot, 5. I generally feel you're lacking and you haven't reached conclusions that I would expect you to. Days have been short and there hasn't been much activity, but 6. for a proclaimed detective, you certainly are being lazy.​

1. Vague fluff that implies I need to communicate with you and you have badfeels and that's about it.
2. I'm really trying here!!!
3. I like some of your pushes/whatever, I don't like others. However for some reason I'm not going to differentiate between them although that would provide discussion content.. Question that demands mindreading.
4. What even is this ****? I WON'T META YOU. YOU ARE YOUR OWN THING AND THAT MEANS YOU'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH, OR WHATEVER I DUNNO
5. "Lacking" -- the world's most open, vague criticism. One of the closest points where you come to saying something concrete. "You haven't reached conclusions that I would expect you to". Like what? FML? Gheb? Both of which people I was pushing and trying to get a bead on before you were, at which point you hopped along? Or are we talking about people like PJB, who I was apparently pretty damn right to leave well enough alone for pretty much the entire game? "I would have expected you to think X about Y" might be a point of substance, this isn't.
6. This point is just parroted from Gheb, and quite frankly wrong to boot. I rarely tip my hand about things myself and when hydraing with OS I'd expect someone to expect even more of that. Just because I don't spooge a dozen posts over the thread in a row doesn't mean I'm not doing things, and anyone reading my damn posts can see a clear narrative imo.
Gheb was only on L out of whiny, pissant OMGUS reasons. It looked like ****. Obviously it was somehow coming from a town player. Now that I've shown the kind of insubstantial things that allegedly are intended to start a dialogue that you're putting out there, what's your excuse?
Furthermore, what has PJB's death changed for you?
@#swag: What's your read on Soup? Why? Why do you have TBG for scum? Why is that read so strong?
@KevinM: Read on Soup. Also, tell me who you think would've shot PJB. Also answer my prior questions.
@TBG: Read on #swag? Why?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

What an awful wall. I'm not J.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Here's the deal, soup -- as of D2 you were a town read to me, and then you're all "Yeah, mafia games! Doin' work!" And you jump back in. Which was to my expectation. I was happy. And then......

I'm listening.

And then you make literally ludicrously unthoughtful plays. You narrate what is going to determine a read on someone in excruciating detail. That reads more of justifying the fact that you're not providing a read at the moment, waving your "Look, I really am doin' work guys!!!!!" flag. I keep trying to think of a town mindset other than Ranmaru that would go "Yeah, posting exactly what I'm looking for from a certain person to the letter so they can contort to please my expectations" and I absolutely can't. That's an example of the manufactured narration.

Did you forget the part where this game was dead for 10 days? I did it for my own purposes and the obvious of trying to generate discussion. Manufactured? This is somehow telling of my intention? How is Manufactured a sufficient argument to this at all? You're trying to turn my initiative and over exaggerate it. Everything I said was done with a purpose. Instead of dancing around the ideal of 'manufactured', you should be telling me why my post has scum intent.

As does all your blatant skimming vibes, such as 764, and 765 which we've already gone over. I really don't care that you "already said" to not pay attention to it or whatever. You did it. You saw a block of text about L and I'm really wondering if you spent a single second reading any amount of it at all, or you just turboskimmed, assumed it was questioning my goodness, and went "huhur I agree".

It was a genuine mistake that I have made before. I actually looked through but I didn't do a super re-read. As I was looking back I was looking at things I could comment about or things I wanted to put light into for the sake of the game. I don't want to talk about my own intention all goddamn day because that's going to lead to me ending up like Mass Effect. Is there anything you particularily disagree about wrt my re-read and posts? I seriously want an answer because all I'm getting from is that "you're really manufactured and you post a lot i dont like you now."

1. Vague fluff that implies I need to communicate with you and you have badfeels and that's about it.

"Fluff." "Manufactured." What do these mean to you? Why is this telling? Throwing out Mafia Lingo without reasoning is a load of ****.

2. I'm really trying here!!!

Yeah, your point? What do you want me to do? Nothing? This is what I don't like about you. You make accusations yet you don't give a reason for it. I'm trying. Okay. So, how does this make me scum?

3. I like some of your pushes/whatever, I don't like others. However for some reason I'm not going to differentiate between them although that would provide discussion content.. Question that demands mindreading.

Why aren't you satisifed with the idea that I wanted your reaction? It might have not been the super obvious 'i dont like this player post' but clearly when I'm calling you lazy and saying that I don't understand some of your pushes and that you haven't reached conclusions, I have beef with you.

5. "Lacking" -- the world's most open, vague criticism. One of the closest points where you come to saying something concrete. "You haven't reached conclusions that I would expect you to". Like what? FML? Gheb? Both of which people I was pushing and trying to get a bead on before you were, at which point you hopped along? Or are we talking about people like PJB, who I was apparently pretty damn right to leave well enough alone for pretty much the entire game? "I would have expected you to think X about Y" might be a point of substance, this isn't.

What is your point with me hopping on Gheb? You mean the same Gheb where you agreed with our reasoning on him? What's the point of adding on the "I did it first and you followed?" All I wanted to know is why you're not doing jack and I haven't seen damn near any stances or anything else besides subtle pushes that don't go anywhere. This is why I feel you're lacking.

6. This point is just parroted from Gheb, and quite frankly wrong to boot. I rarely tip my hand about things myself and when hydraing with OS I'd expect someone to expect even more of that. Just because I don't spooge a dozen posts over the thread in a row doesn't mean I'm not doing things, and anyone reading my damn posts can see a clear narrative imo.

Let me be blunt here. Give me your reads. Give me who you want today. Give me something more than you and OS hiding behind your goddamn Hydra.

Gheb was only on L out of whiny, pissant OMGUS reasons. It looked like ****. Obviously it was somehow coming from a town player. Now that I've shown the kind of insubstantial things that allegedly are intended to start a dialogue that you're putting out there, what's your excuse?
Furthermore, what has PJB's death changed for you?

A couple of things. TBG still looks like a great lynch. I still have things I need from you, hell, I need things from a lot of people.

 

[.L-]

(ignoring your bitchin' 'bout dem wallz. Cry more and deal with it, they're gonna happen. Work with it.)

subtle pushes that don't go anywhere.

L's pushes are the ones that ended in lynch death, fyi

I think I was asked a few times what my opinion was on PJB. We stayed tight-lipped because he'd progressed strongly into townread. Here's why:

Reasons PJB Was Obvtown:

-Initial Gheb push. Why do you cast zero doubt on Raziek for the same notion? Are you seriously putting that much stock in his roleclaim alone, which happened before any play? PJB on the other hand came in with the tone of someone that had seen something they didn't like and glossed right over Raz pushing the same point. Didn't even notice. Didn't "me too". Gheb's a hearty push, man, PJBscum was gonna "me too".

-Continued Gheb push. There was no reason to shoot Gheb that would somehow be eclipsed by Kantplay's appearance, which would be more of the same and maybe even lynchable -- all the bad play the day progressed into with one exception for Gheb was present right at the start and right when PJB started his push. If PJB was the killer, he shot Gheb. But he didn't.

-Complete lack of overeagerness. Once again, Gheb is a balls deep kinda push. You don't half-ass it if you want to kill Gheb, no matter HOW he's playing or if people are hating it (before the beginning of the tailspin there OS and I were completely ready to hop off Gheb and go elsewhere.) I'd expect an inherent excitement from scumPJB and really most any sophomoric player that starts a ballsy push on a town heavy hitter and sees it starting to happen. Right to the grave PJB's vibes were directly in line with "**** yeah about time people are listening to me about this guy I think is super scummy". He didn't get jumpy at any point at all.

The town narrative fits these actions completely. He came in with his own suspicion directing him, possibly not having even noticed Raz's push or mulling on it at all. That's sincerity. Kantplay shows up, Kantplay dies. Gheb push never stops. Those are the moves of someone who doesn't have the power of the killer. Push continues. People start to come around. PJB quietly scrutinizes, apparently, based on his posting pattern but stays on course because it feels right. By this point L is posting some of our points about Gheb's play and why we dislike it. This is right around where PJBtown vibes onto our points and gets the town lean. This is also right around where YOU put YOUR points out there, which OS and I both vibed on as well due to its eerily similar nature to our private discussions about Gheb and what he was doing, leading us to town on you. Gheb continues to circle the drain and PJB sees it through with the satisfaction of someone that got the lynch they wanted and waiting for the flip.

He wasn't mafia. He wasn't indy/daykiller.

That leaves town.


L Narrative:

Come into day after ****ing execution and no NK. Day already sucks. Gheb starts pushing TOM. Reasons are bad. Raz buries his balls in Gheb's butt right away. Kantplay appears. He does Kantplay things, he dies, flips scum. Oh damn, a scumflip. Come to think of it none of Gheb's play points away from SvS. Then he gets a new target. Then he's offered Kingmaker. Then he drops his prior push with no concern at all. Like he didn't want it in the first place. That was the apex of where he fell. And that's when we started to tighten our pressure. And he played MUCH WORSE with his buckets of salt and FUD and OMGUS as the pressure was applied because he can't see past his rosy tinted ****ing mirror. So we see it through.

No reason not to do that as indy, I admit, but it sure as hell lines up with someone hunting scum. TOM would have been an easy thing to push through with Gheb alongside me. TBG wouldn't be terribly difficult either. For fake routes of D2, L's did pretty damn badly as scum. Because, y'know, it didn't.


Are you getting this? So you come into toDay and footsiepush me a little in the kind of way a scum that might want to lynch me on D4 would do. Then you push my one remaining townread. Add narrative. Add HEDONISTIC amounts of skimming. How's that look to me?

If you can reconcile how you somehow came out of a fresh reread of D2 with PJBscum, maybe we can work together. But you read it as wrong as anyone ever could, and that's a fact.

 

[.L-]

(haven't read your responses in full yet but this seems like the kind of thing you've been waiting for I'd imagine)

And to answer a prior question now that I care to actually tip this card, what I got out of Gheb's death was hard PJBtown and quite honestly that might've been enough when I had the townlean on you as well.

 

[.L-]

I'm ignoring your responses because I feel any responses to them will devolve to "he said/she said", or are things I've already said above. And quite honestly the he said/she said things are already plain as day and you're responding with a need to rebut everything rather than replying. I think any spectator would agree. But that's okay, because it's completely null in a Soup argument and I won't let it lead to your all-to-common ML, if that's what you'd be.

The above posts are now my priority in any interactions with you and no more thread attention should go to this after you respond to me. I feel I've provided enough at this juncture that I don't want to say anything else until the peanut gallery speaks up, something I'm sure you wouldn't disagree with when TBG is part of it.

 

[TBG]

Deciding if I still want to play this game or not. I absolutely hate flaking, and I'm doubly disinclined to do it on a site where I'm not well known, but I'm definitely a groove/rhythm heavy player, and the huge night was just blehhhhhhh. I was having a hard enough time keeping up with the game as-is, and this just killed it for me. I thought it might be a little bit easier than it is, but coming back into the thread and seeing questions I have absolutely no idea on is just makes this feel like work rather than a game.

@Mod: Rather than doing everything myself or entirely subbing out, would getting a fresh player to hydra with me be acceptable? It would allow everyone to still ask me questions, but it would greatly reduce the burden on myself personally.

 

[hashtagswag]

I'm reading soup as scum. But I think I always read soup as scum so it's not particularly strong. Soup, when's the last time I read you as town?

TGB is scum because he told us how his executioner role worked while trying to explain why he wasn't executioner, so like LOL

 

[hashtagswag]

L why do I want to lynch you?