If you think my comment was hostile, that wasn't my intention.
However, I call bs when I see it
That's just a blatant exaggeration and I literally showed you why that was not the case, and I said, even IF it was, it's still fairly close which you dismissed. Sure, there may be like 4 less than JRPGs without counting Metroidvanias, but that doesn't really help your case either, since both woule be unfairly ''overrepresented'' by your standards.
There is like
20+ for both platformers and JRPG
meanwhile, 0 for FPS (unless you count Metroid) and Horror Genre. Or heck, even Puzzle or Beat'em up games, but platformers for some reason get all the attention when it comes to ''unfair treatment''. Sounds bias as hell.
The fact there are more clones that overlap in moveset within the JRPG reps should show you that platformers were indeed given more priority, and Sakurai said that swordies are easier to program/develop so I don't get what are you trying to imply here since it actually goes against your own argument.
About Metroidvanias, this is what I got when I looked it up:
''Typically based on two-dimensional, sidescrolling platform gameplay, Metroidvania games feature a large interconnected world map the player can explore, though access to parts of the world is often limited by doors or other obstacles that can only be passed once the player has acquired special items, tools, weapons or abilities within the game.''
It's basically a non-linear platformer, not rocket science if you ask me. It's like when people dismiss Smash of not being a fighting game because it isn't one in the traditional sense.
Anyway, How I see it, Metroid and Castlevania are more platformers than Zelda is to RPGs, but whatever, let's not count them for the sake of the arguement.
That's still 23 vs. 27, (even though like 4 JRPGs chars share Marth's moveset) which means both are in the same spot.
Not sure why you said that you don't care if you took the time to make a whole essay about it though, but agree to disagree.
I appreciate the clarification of tone. I'm glad we aren't escalating hostility.
I dismissed it because you are not accepted the numbers I showed.
If you want to contest the argument that Mario should count in platform, I'll listen. I'm really not sure how you could call it such.
If you do, but you don't count Pokemon as RPG, I'd like to know as well.
If you want to make the argument that Metroidvania's count (as you did), I will read it.
Unlocking doors, weapons, and upgrading until the end of the game is ultimately a lot easier. Those are the standards of an RPG game. The shooter elements are self evident. Clearly, since I made the mistake of adding Megaman into my platform characters, I do see the argument that Simon, Richter, and Megaman have strong platform elements. I just don't think it makes sense if we aren't including every game that includes level up battle dynamics.
However, that would absolutely mean that Zelda is just as much RPG, which is,
"A
role-playing video game (commonly referred to as simply a
role-playing game or an
RPG as well as a
computer role-playing game or a
CRPG) is a video game genre where the player controls the actions of a character (or several party members) immersed in some well-defined world, usually involving some form of character development by way of recording statistics."- by what I think is your same source for Metroidvania's.
As for numbers, I showed my math- I was off by one Mario character, but we aren't counting Mario characters or Pokemon characters.
TOTALS:
So the count is either: Platform 7 to RPG 15, or Platform 15 and RPG 26.
Neither favors the notion that there are more Platform characters- but in fact, it shows that RPG characters have double, or one and a half times, more characters than platform.
I missed one Mario character, but without your math shown, I have no idea how you got the numbers you got. Removing Metroidvania's is removing 7 characters- Four Metroid, 2 Castlevania, and 1 Megaman. I guess this is the crux of our argument.
I am curious- what do you consider to be the main genres of gaming?
Am I missing something else? Without counting Mario or Pokemon
It's Platform 7 to RPG 15, or
Counting both Mario and Pokemon
It's Platform 16 to RPG 26.
I suppose we can debate if that is considered 'close,' but that seems unnecessary.
Again, because I don't count Metroidvania's as Platform the count of Platform
- Kirby, Dedede, Metaknight-Ice Climbers, Sonic, Banjo Kazooie, and apparently I added Megaman here.
Perhaps we should just agree to disagree on genre, but this is very much how I see it, and I know how you see it.
Still...
It also does not address the fact that over half of all DLC characters, ever, were from RPGs (with a whopping Platform count of 1- or 2 if we count Plant). Do you really think that is not a strong favortism to the RPG series? Half DLC as anything is a LOT of a single genre.
